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Total Welfare Spending Now at $1 Trillion (Gov't. only has three choices left: Tax, Print or Borrow)
National Review ^ | 10/18/2012 | NRO Staff

Posted on 10/18/2012 6:45:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Tax print or borrow? What’s new about that? What needs to happen is serious spending cuts, lower taxes thru tax reform. We need to make it more attractive to earn your own way than mooch off others.


21 posted on 10/18/2012 7:25:17 AM PDT by upsdriver
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To: SeekAndFind

there is no question we need a reliable safety net. However, welfare benefits have ballooned far above what can be considered reasonable. Much of the trillion dollar welfare cost can be taken away with a Congress with the guts.

Look at this and weep!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luo40WjBKWI&feature=related


22 posted on 10/18/2012 7:32:55 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: upsdriver

Or, we can just let it be more attractive to earn your own way than starve.

And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said “If you don’t work you die”.

Might need to give some “a whiff o’ the grape”, “pour encourager les autres”.


23 posted on 10/18/2012 7:34:00 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Nervous Tick
So far every post has ignored the fact that when we as individuals get in a tight spot financially, we do something else in addition to cutting.

We sell something.

Timber, cows, crops, land, that boat or bike....

If we have no hard assets, we sell more of our time....

Get a second job, get a job that pays more or whatever.

But we sell something.

Our government does not understand that basic principle.

The US has more hard assets than any country in the world but we are marking most of them as off limits.

Not smart.

24 posted on 10/18/2012 7:37:04 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama borrowed 6 trillion $ so far. No one in the world has this kind of money nor will ever. Obama is destroying the U.S.A by borrowing and printing trillions to give to his democrats who live off of welfare and don’t work.


25 posted on 10/18/2012 7:37:33 AM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: old curmudgeon

Good point.


26 posted on 10/18/2012 7:39:39 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: SeekAndFind
Total annual spending on federal means-tested welfare programs has hit $1 trillion.

Adjusted for inflation that is the same per annum deficit that occurred from 1942 to 1945. We are spending at World War II pace?!?!?!?!

27 posted on 10/18/2012 7:39:48 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Paging Dr. Cloward, Paging Dr. Piven, please pick up the red curtosy phone.


28 posted on 10/18/2012 7:41:06 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Reminds me of a [somewhat] military saying: it’s easier to ask forgiveness than permission.


29 posted on 10/18/2012 7:41:08 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SeekAndFind
HA, trying doing that and see what happens to our cities. Europe has been trying that and look at the riots in Greece and the rest of the PIIGS...

So let 'em destroy the cities. Really, most of the large cities have become nothing but playpens for the freeloading deadbeats anyway. If they destroy their own homes, who are we to stop them?

Now, if they come for my home or my family's home, then they can expect to be removed from among the living. I really don't give a snot about them anymore. They're no different than German soldiers circa 1942.

30 posted on 10/18/2012 8:01:40 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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I think the “if’s” are over. It IS going to end badly, and I don’t think a lot of folks can comprehend the magnitude of it. Romney, of course is much better than what we have now, but he can’t stop it,either.It’s been too long in the making.I have two thoughts about these last days before economic collapse. Should one “hunker down” and severely curtail spending in order to conserve everything he can, Or buy everything he might think he will ever need and stretch his credit beyond his limits, and just try to struggle and pay on it as much as he can until everything does collapse? Many of those things won’t be there to get then.By spending now, it would help our failing economy, too,IF everything wasn’t made in some other country. Since the world hasn’t yet been through a situation like what is coming, What are the answers?


31 posted on 10/18/2012 8:04:27 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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C’mon,now, Many German soldiers were respectable,hard working citizens who just got caught up in a political coup.Wrong to compare most of them to the garbage living in many of our inner cities. I know what you are saying, though, and i agree, I could care less about those people...


32 posted on 10/18/2012 8:12:57 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: cincinnati65

Dependent broken people for for democrats... there’s a plan behind this madness...


33 posted on 10/18/2012 8:23:12 AM PDT by GOPJ
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>> Since the world hasn’t yet been through a situation like what is coming, What are the answers?

I sure wish I knew, FRiend. Personally, over the long haul I don’t see any way out besides some form of currency debasement; that argues towards putting yourself in “hard assets”, which means different things to different folks.

But how long before the debasement scenario takes hold and plays out? Anybody’s guess, and between now and then the current period of essentially deflationary behaviour could be prolonged.

I can tell you what I’m doing personally: moving to the country and buying the tools necessary for “country life” as I can afford them. Think dirt, tractors, implements, energy; I’m not a big believer in the full blown “stuff hits the fan” scenario, but it does seem sensible to me to get a *little* better control over my food, my water, and my space.

Good luck, and FRegards. And if you discover the real answer, please let me know right away! :-)


34 posted on 10/18/2012 8:32:53 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: SeekAndFind

[ Most people like you are bigots. ]

THATS NOT TRUE,,, there are four choices..

The fourth is.. STOP SPENDING.. requiring less revenue.. lessening the deficit reducing or eliminating the need to borrow..

STOP SPENDING.. spend less, reduce current spending, eliminate federal government on EVERY LEVEL..


35 posted on 10/18/2012 9:00:03 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

correction of the quote: Tax, Print or Borrow ....


36 posted on 10/18/2012 9:02:18 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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RE: The fourth is.. STOP SPENDING.. requiring less revenue..

We all know that, but given the HUGE dependency on Food Stamps, Medicare, Social Security, Unemployment and all other sorts of welfare programs, I have to say — GOOD LUCK WITH THAT (unless of course, you want to see riots on the streets like Europe is experiencing ).


37 posted on 10/18/2012 9:02:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What about:

“If you don’t work, you don’t eat.”

???


38 posted on 10/18/2012 9:03:34 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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"My kind of town, Zimbabwe is....."

39 posted on 10/18/2012 9:07:00 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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[ GOOD LUCK WITH THAT (unless of course, you want to see riots on the streets like Europe is experiencing ). ]

Riots in the streets will happen anyway... better to be prepared for them..
To fix America they MUST HAPPEN..

The progressives according to Saul Alinsky their main guru has set it up that it MUST HAPPEN..
They are preparing for it happen (the UNIONS).. to force it to happen..
Whether Obama WINS OR LOOSES...it will happen... they WANT it to happen..

Top down, bottom up, inside out.. <<- Beck displayed this for weeks..
They WANT instability and revolt.. to demand Martial Law..
George Soros even said it...

**->> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5-kDx6gOZY


40 posted on 10/18/2012 9:24:23 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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