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The Possibility of a Popular, Electoral Vote Split is Very Real
National Journal ^ | Charlie Cook

Posted on 10/18/2012 8:46:11 PM PDT by Arthurio

Partisans still hoping that their candidate will build a clear lead in the presidential contest are likely to be disappointed. The race seems destined to be a close one, with the outcome remaining in doubt to the very end. President Obama won the second debate, but not by nearly enough to make up for his devastating loss in the first one. Obama was on the verge of putting the race away heading into the first debate, but his weak performance and Mitt Romney’s commanding effort effectively changed the race’s trajectory. Although Obama’s poll numbers are no longer dropping, he is locked in a tight contest: He trails Romney by 1 to 4 percentage points in national polling, yet he still holds a fragile lead in the Electoral College.

Romney entered the first debate with an edge arguably in only one battleground state: North Carolina. Going into the second debate, the former Massachusetts governor also led narrowly in Florida and Virginia, putting him ahead in three of 11 battleground states. Obama now holds small leads in Colorado, Iowa, New Hampshire, and Wisconsin, with a slightly wider advantage in Nevada. He still leads, in my judgment, in Ohio by about 4 points (although going into the second debate, one senior Romney strategist claimed that the two men were essentially tied at 47 percent in the Buckeye State). Romney is polling far back in Michigan and Pennsylvania, states that are effectively noncompetitive.

Although history and this column have argued that the popular vote and the electoral vote usually go in the same direction (that’s what happened in 53 of 56 presidential elections), today, Romney’s national popular-vote situation is different than his Electoral College challenge.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: election2012; obama; romney
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1 posted on 10/18/2012 8:46:13 PM PDT by Arthurio
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Charlie Cook’s info is dated - every one agrees FL, NC, VA, CO are now solid Romney states.

He’ll probably win OH, WI and IA as well.

Its not going to be close at all.

Sorry, Charlie - you’re dead wrong!


2 posted on 10/18/2012 8:49:58 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Arthurio

Not really. It’s going to be a landslide. Romney is already ahead of where Reagan was in 1980. Mitt would have to praise Hitler to lose this at this point.


3 posted on 10/18/2012 8:50:18 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: Arthurio

President Obama won the second debate


No, he didn’t. Next...


4 posted on 10/18/2012 8:51:05 PM PDT by NewJerseyGOP
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To: Arthurio

The article was written on October 11th. It is crap.


5 posted on 10/18/2012 8:52:22 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Arthurio

Charlie Cook wrote this article to try to convince himself as much as anyone else that his Obamessiah still has hope. Fail.


6 posted on 10/18/2012 8:56:20 PM PDT by kevao (Is your ocean any lower than it was four years ago?)
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To: kabar

I also thought the article was dated but check again. It was written this afternoon. He must have been locked in a closet all day, away from current events, as his statement that Obama “still holds a fragile lead in the Electoral College” has long since gone!


7 posted on 10/18/2012 8:58:24 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: TheRhinelander
Not really. It’s going to be a landslide. Romney is already ahead of where Reagan was in 1980. Mitt would have to praise Hitler to lose this at this point.

Never underestimate the ability of the Republican party to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

8 posted on 10/18/2012 9:08:44 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: goldstategop

From your keyboard to God’s ears!


9 posted on 10/18/2012 9:09:32 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: goldstategop

There’s a poll out tonight showing Romney up 4 in Pennsylvania.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=b4_cJc-WYhI


10 posted on 10/18/2012 9:12:04 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: TheRhinelander

“Not really. It’s going to be a landslide.”

I concur.


11 posted on 10/18/2012 9:16:10 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: goldstategop

I believe that’s correct; Michigan and PA are coming too.


12 posted on 10/18/2012 9:18:14 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: StarFan

It was updated but still stale.


13 posted on 10/18/2012 9:21:37 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Bshaw

Does everyone agree we are beyond the range of ‘rat voter fraud yet?!?


14 posted on 10/18/2012 9:23:29 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Dr. Pritchett

The only way there won’t be riots and upheaval in this country is if Obama loses resoundingly.

If not, the only people to get any pleasure out of an election aftermath will be the lawyers.


15 posted on 10/18/2012 9:27:04 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Arthurio

Every election they say this.. But it never happens.


16 posted on 10/18/2012 9:29:32 PM PDT by Hildy (F"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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17 posted on 10/18/2012 9:31:07 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Arthurio

Nope, Romney by a landslide..


18 posted on 10/18/2012 9:33:30 PM PDT by cardinal4
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To: goldstategop
I read the other day that Romney might swipe an EV in Maine's 2nd District. Maine's election laws allow for split results, kind of like Nebraska in 2008 and Virginia in 1972.

According to the latest poll, Obama has the overall lead in Maine, 48-44; but in the 2nd District, Romney has a 49-44 lead.

19 posted on 10/18/2012 9:35:02 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: cardinal4

I don’t get the landslide talk. There is nothing that Obama can do that will prevent him from winning at least 200 EVs.


20 posted on 10/18/2012 9:59:00 PM PDT by CatOwner
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