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Judge: Zimmerman defense can see Martin records(FL)
kcautv.com ^ | 19 October, 2012 | KYLE HIGHTOWER, AP

Posted on 10/21/2012 3:40:24 AM PDT by marktwain

SANFORD, Fla. (AP) - A judge ruled Friday that attorneys for a Florida neighborhood watch volunteer can inspect the school records and social media postings of the unarmed teenager he is accused of murdering.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; fl; martin; trayvon; trayvoninc; zimmerman
Martin's records are directly relevant to Zimmerman's claims of self defense. If Martin's records show that he had a propensity for lawlessness and violence, they make Zimmerman's claims more credible.

In the infamous Harold Fish case in Arizona, the judge refused to allow evidence that the mentally ill homeless man that Harold shot had a history of violence. Harold spent two years in jail while the legislature voted three times to change to law to allow him another trial. Janet Napolitano vetoed two of those attempts. It was only after Napolitano left to become the head of Homeland Security that the legislature succeeded in changeing the law. Harold's appeal finally overturned the judges decision in the first trial (after Harold had spent more than two years in jail) and the state refused to prosecute him a second time.

1 posted on 10/21/2012 3:40:37 AM PDT by marktwain
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unarmed teenager he is accused of murdering.

You mean the thug that was on top of him banging his head against the concrete?

2 posted on 10/21/2012 3:45:25 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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I think the moment you introduce the suspensions and reasons behind them....most juries will identify the kid as a loser. Doesn’t matter what happened in the case...the school record condemns any chance of the prosecutor winning, in my humble opinion.


3 posted on 10/21/2012 3:49:12 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Duuuuuuuuuuuh.

THAT’S THE POINT.


4 posted on 10/21/2012 3:51:27 AM PDT by Flintlock (-THE TRUTH--It's the NEW hate speech.)
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I think the moment you introduce the suspensions and reasons behind them....most juries will identify the kid as a loser. Doesn’t matter what happened in the case...the school record condemns any chance of the prosecutor winning, in my humble opinion.

I am not sure what point you are trying to make. Are you saying the records should not be available? Are you saying that life is unjust?

Are you saying jurors have too much power?

Please clarify.

5 posted on 10/21/2012 4:29:40 AM PDT by marktwain
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I may be wrong, but I think the “point” is that they do not want a conviction.

Those who are behind the arrest and trail would be happy with an acquittal as it will help stir the pot of racial divide the left is so good at.


6 posted on 10/21/2012 4:54:26 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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This is news because there is a tendency to place all victims into a “protected class” based on their having been labeled “victim”. We need to look at the big picture. Are we after the truth or is having PC feelings enough? Is it fair game to examine the previous behavior and history of a rape victim? IMO, hell yes. Bringing a charge should not equal granting special status to the “victim”. Criminal law is about proscribing behaviors that offend the state not the individual. Government isn’t there to solve all your misfortunes. Every time we have a liberal administration that gets forgotten because dependency means votes.


7 posted on 10/21/2012 5:01:57 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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Excellent news.

Is anyone running a Zimmerman ping list?


8 posted on 10/21/2012 5:54:40 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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Former Sec of Labor Donovan ask “Which office do I go to get my reputation back?”

Harold Fish, Sec Donovan and too many others lives are destroyed by the ‘state’.

My guess, some little know bureaucrat with an agenda pushes his cause. Never in any chance of being fired, more likely promoted.

Most of us are in fact enemy’s of the ‘state’.


9 posted on 10/21/2012 6:07:31 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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*** Martin's records are directly relevant to Zimmerman's claims of self defense. ***

You betcha, it goes directly to Trayvon's character.

If those records reveal that 'Saint Trayvon' was not the little angel the MSM has portrayed from day one, and the typical tripe that's been spouted by the parents [and relatives in cases of these 'slain yutes' (he was turning his life around - GAG!)], Zimmerman walks from this farce of a trial on day two.

And then -- the city burns as the riots start the next day because: 'No Justice, No Peas!'(/s). Plus, as already promised -- Eric 'My people' Holder will start looking for white people to prosecute for Civil Rights Violations.

10 posted on 10/21/2012 7:02:00 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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Well, this is one of the rare pieces of good news coming out of this bogus case. We need to remember that just because the defense attorneys will now have access to this information does not necessarily mean that the Judge will allow the defense to present much of it to the jury. The very opinionated judge in this case has been doing much to prejudice the jury pool in this case—we can’t forget that.

Much of the discovery of Zimmerman’s medical records, cell phone data and background has been made public. It will be interesting to see how much of Trayvon’s background is made public—and how much of it is actually covered by the mainstream media in an objective light.


11 posted on 10/21/2012 7:11:05 AM PDT by House Atreides
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By now the Prosecution and the Scheme Team have to be in a state of shock. They got blitzed on Friday.

Furthermore George Zimmerman's attorneys in their Emergency Motion and subpoena requests made it clear that in addition to a jury trial, and an immunity hearing, they are also on the track of a Malicious Prosecution with Corey, BDLR, Crump in their crosshairs.

Crump has ten days to provide a list of all people who were in the room for the infamously suspicious ABC DeeDee phone interview and provide a copy of his recording and its chain of custody. Crump will have to decide whether to provide the clear one that Matt Guttman says he has and that was played on ABC news or the one that he allegedly gave to the FBI/FDLE/whomever or the garbled one that the Defense was given. Whoever altered it before giving it to the Defense is breaking into a cold sweat right about now.

Furthermore the Prosecution is playing Hide DeeDee. They won't say whether DeeDee is still a minor or not and are fighting to keep her address from the Defense. Why???

The only reason is that there are two [and maybe even more] different DeeDees that they are considering bringing forth at the deposition: one that was on the phone with him that night, the one that did that phone[y] interview, and the one that Crump brought forward for the BDLR deposition.

The Prosecution's whole case has rested on their star witness DeeDee and now there is even money on whether DeeDee even shows up for her deposition, or if she does pleads the 5th, now has developed a case of amnesia and/or aphasia, or is called out of town at the last minute for some emergency.

With no address for her there is no place for the Defense to send the subpoena. The judge said that Crump will bring her to the deposition. This case could end right there. We can't wait, Ben.

12 posted on 10/21/2012 7:14:36 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Thank you for the detailed information. I pray that some justice comes of all this, and that those who are guilty are punished.

It could happen.

George Zimmerman could end up owning a considerable chunk of a network.


13 posted on 10/21/2012 9:46:29 AM PDT by marktwain
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BTW — in the event you are not aware of it:

New Black Panther Party chief of staff Michelle Williams arrested

Tampa, Florida — The chief of staff of the controversial New Black Panthers political party is accused of selling a home she didn’t own.

40-year-old Michelle Williams was arrested Tuesday night on a charge of Second Degree Grand Theft. She was later released on $7,500 bond.

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Williams, a community activist who is the chief of staff for the New Black Panther Party, came under fire earlier this year when she called for a “dead or alive” bounty on George Zimmerman.

http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/article/278677/8/New-Black-Panther-Party-chief-of-staff-arrested


14 posted on 10/21/2012 12:17:00 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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