New poll: Egyptians heart Iran and want nukes

American Thinker ^ | 10/21/2012 | Rick Moran

[SeekAndFind]

Because there's nothing like another Islamist country who craves nuclear weapons:

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The poll of 812 Egyptians, half of them women, was conducted in a series of in-person interviews by the firm Greenberg Quinlan Rosner and sponsored by the Israel Project, a pro-Israel advocacy organization with offices in Washington and Jerusalem. According to the poll, Iran is viewed favorably in Egypt, with 65 percent of those surveyed expressing support of the decision to renew Egypt-Iran relations and 61 percent expressing support of the Iranian nuclear project, versus 41 percent in August 2009.

Sixty-two percent of those polled agreed that "Iran and its president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, are friends of Egypt," though 68 percent held unfavorable views of Shiite Muslims.

Iran's deputy defense minister said recently that the Iranian regime is seeking more military cooperation with Egypt. "We are ready to help Egypt to build nuclear reactors and satellites," he said on the occasion or Egyptian President Mohammed Morsy's meeting with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad last month. Morsy's office has said the two didn't discuss military cooperation. Eighty-seven percent of respondents want Egypt to have its own nuclear bomb.

Israel Project CEO Josh Block told The Cable that the statistics show the effect of Morsy's outreach to Iran and the danger of regional proliferation of nuclear weapons if Iran is successful in obtaining a nuclear bomb.

"Very scary to people opposed to proliferation of nuclear weapons, let alone to unstable countries in the world's most turbulent part of the world, is the 87 percent who want Egypt to build nuclear weapons," he said. "Morsy's dangerous embrace of Iran is leading a surprising shift in favor support for Tehran, which has for decades been seen by Egyptians as their top threat, as well as for their work on nuclear weapons."

[TigerClaws]

Muslims voting gave us the ayatollah and Taliban.

Who thought this would be a good idea? Islam and democracy don’t mix.

[Pelham]

This must come as a shock to the democracy worshippers in both parties.

[himno hero]

We should embrace their love for nukes and give them some. How many? Just enough to glaze their neighborhoods.

Backwards cavemen should not have access to such western technology, even if they can buy it with oil dollas.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks SeekAndFind.

The poll of 812 Egyptians, half of them women, was conducted in a series of in-person interviews by the firm Greenberg Quinlan Rosner and sponsored by the Israel Project, a pro-Israel advocacy organization with offices in Washington and Jerusalem.

[dennisw]

Shiite Iran wants to convert and change Sunni Egypt and Sunni Saudi Arabia over to Shiitism. Mulsims are primal and gravitate to the strong horse (Osama Bin Ladin said this)

So nuked up Iran will have Sunnis begging for nukes, a great position to be in. Nuked up Iran will also be able to dictate to the Arabians how much oil they pump, who they sell to and what price

The real kicker is these shiites fanatical or otherwise have only dominated Iran since 1700 or so. Prior to that Iran was Sunni. Just shows you how transient and loony Islam is...what happens when you get involved with murderous pedophile false prophets

[Carry_Okie]

The real kicker is these shiites fanatical or otherwise have only dominated Iran since 1700 or so. Prior to that Iran was Sunni. Just shows you how transient and loony Islam is...

If that is your standard for "loony," consider this...

The real kicker is these evangelical protestants, fanatical or otherwise, have only dominated Northern Europe since 1500 or so. Prior to that Europe was Catholic. Just shows you how transient and loony Christianity is...

Yeah, I thought you'd get a rueful chuckle.

Islamists may be a psychotic, violent, corrupt, and satanic culture, and a twisted mirror to the children of Yitzchak and Esav, but look at what has happened to European demography and you'll see exactly how Islamic adherence to, and European deviation from practices taught in the Torah have blessed the followers of Islam. Last time I checked, they hadn't murdered 100 million of their own children just for convenience (Europe and the US combined over the last 20 years). They don't eat unclean meat. They keep their "sabbath." They have lots of kids. They pray a lot. They teach their kids in their own schools. They seek to convert non-Muslims. They may be worshiping the wrong god, they may be sickos, but they DO a lot of what the Torah teaches and it works just like the Torah says it does. Were Western "Judeo"-Christian culture as aware of and as dedicated to the union between Christ's teachings and the Torah as Muslims are to the Quran, I think you would agree that Islam would never have had a chance to become what it has.

In short and in many respects, their temporal successes mirror our failings to study and abide by the Word of G_d. It is to the latter that I am more concerned.

[DesertRhino]

Im sure we would give them a few billion to get started.

[sharpee]

They are going to need more than a few billion. I was there earlier this month. A country that has grown from 40 to 90 million people needs a decent economy. They say their tourism industry is down more than 50%. It looks like it is down more than 80%. There were few people at any of the sites. One of our guides said they are also having fuel problems. They cannot feed their people even though they do a lot of farming. The unemployment is high and their cash reserves are low. How they are going to get through next year is a mystery to me.

[dennisw]

Jews don’t seek to convert anyone. I know that Mo’ learned from the Jewish and Christian religions of his time. Even stole from them a bit. But Islam is radically different from Judaism. You wrote partly in humor but....

Just for example. Islam has one prophet and his followers are told they must emulate him and his life. Bin Ladin and the other Jihadists are doing just this. Jews, we look at our prophets and learn from their lives but be are not ordered to copy them. Our prophets have flaws while Mo’ is promoted as “the most perfect man who ever lived, who is worthy of emulation by all mankind”. By everyone this means non-Muslims too.

[Carry_Okie]

Jews don’t seek to convert anyone.

I know. IMHO, they missed the significance of that "light to the world" thingy.

I am well aware of the differences you cite. What I was referring to was the amazing and deliberate set of parallels in Genesis 16. It is obvious right there that the children of Ishmael will be followers of ha-satan.

[dennisw]

I know. IMHO, they missed the significance of that "light to the world" thingy.

This could be. Jews have to make do with a Covenant. Even if Judaism was out trying to convert people we would have a tougher time than Christianity which is easier to understand and has a better emotional appeal (generalizing here). Judaism and Christianity both have intellectual appeal. Judaism has a better legalistic appeal as in  ---  If you follow Gods laws and commandments you will find it much easier to lead a good, just and happy life

As far as Islam and Judaism I figured I might be saying things you already know. The wackiest thing about Islam is the scoundrel they have for a prophet. Their alleged prophet is a reflection of the dry and harsh climate of Arabia (Mecca Medina) where only the strong clans and families survive. No libertarians out there. I can't see Muhammad's appeal in locations that have rainfall, grass and trees

[Carry_Okie]

Their alleged prophet is a reflection of the dry and harsh climate of Arabia (Mecca Medina) where only the strong clans and families survive.

Moshe made his living the same way for forty years.

No libertarians out there.

While that is certainly true among the children of Ishmael and Esav, there I believe you are incorrect in the original. In my opinion, the Torah itself is a libertarian document having a definite pastoral predisposition, but you'd have to risk a delve into my re-translation of the Cain and Abel tale and/or my treatment on Shemitta to appreciate the depth behind what I am saying here representing four years of work. In my opinion, the original pastoral theme in the Torah has been lost for millennia. After all, Avraham, Yitzchak, Yaakov, Moshe, and David were all shepherds, while Ezra was a priestly intellectual inclined to see things more mystically. In that respect, the disparity is a validation of the ancient origins and truth of the document.

I can respect how you might consider that my opinion at variance with the Oral Tradition in favor of the written should be disregarded, but I can assure you that the work has been reviewed by a Shemitta Law expert in Israel and he found no flaw. With a more literal interpretation of Ex. 23:11 as "release it and abandon it," I can explain in real terms how every single provision of B'chukotai is realized in normal military, economic, and environmental metrics. There is no mystery to how it works at all. Yet that founding verse for the Sabbath for the Land was entirely omitted from any discussion of that same topic in two volumes of the Talmud Yerushalmi, Tractate Shviit and I think I know why. It would have been suicidal for the rabbis to even discuss it under Persian, Greek, or Roman rule.