Posted on 10/21/2012 8:06:01 PM PDT by RushingWater
Nice Alinksy move Aussiebabe. Your partners picked up on it and have hijacked the discussion.
Insults and misdirection. Alinksy left quite a legacy in this country.
The socialists who support hiding the gene splicing facts from the people who consume the food, are also the ones behind the ‘money saving’ plan to make cattle eat their own kind. The net result was bovine spongiform encephalopathy spreading in the herds and millions of animals had to be culled— devastating to farmers in Europe. In addition, it caused Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in humans who ate the cannibal animals.
These companies can splice human genes into food and make unwitting cannibals out of everyone who eats their product.
But that doesn’t bother socialists/communists who control our government. Its economical you see, just like cremating humans in India to generate power.
Humanity, dignity, religious taboos all fly out the window when it comes to making profits for corporatist globalist monsters.
It hurts pepsi if you don’t want to drink their swill taste tested by aborted babies.
This issue has nothing to do with Greenpeace or Friends of Earth.
To help you get up to speed on this issue, here is an article
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Monsanto Sues Pennsylvania Farmer for Saving Seeds
It's illegal to save seeds. In fact, the most important aspect of agriculture since the dawn of time is not allowed. That's right; the multinational corporation contends that all farmers that buy the crop sign a patent agreement.
Harold Steve Wiser Jr. and Harold V. Wiser violated Monsanto's licensing agreement according to the claims made by the company by replanting GM Roundup Ready seeds collected from a prior season crop. Harold Steve Wiser Jr. runs the largest wheat operation in the state with more than 50 farms in Erie, Mercer, Crawford and Venango counties throughout Western Pennsylvania.
Additionally, according to the article, "Monsanto has filed 145 lawsuits since 1997 against farmers who saved seeds." And they have the funds to do it when you consider that according to the New York Times, 94 percent of soybeans and 72 percent of corn are being grown with GMO seeds.
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GMO seeds are Monsanto's patented seeds.
It gets worse...If seeds from an adjoining farm blow into another farm, the farmer has to pay a royalty to Monsanto on the resulting crop.
It is really a much better idea to do just a little bit of research before spouting off and trying to insult someone. Put as much effort into thinking as you do to throwing barbs and we will all be much happier. I will be the first to admit I am wrong if someone comes back with a correction. On this subject, happy to have you present something that shows I don't have this one correct.
This issue has nothing to do with Greenpeace or Friends of Earth.
To help you get up to speed on this issue, here is an article
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Monsanto Sues Pennsylvania Farmer for Saving Seeds
It's illegal to save seeds. In fact, the most important aspect of agriculture since the dawn of time is not allowed. That's right; the multinational corporation contends that all farmers that buy the crop sign a patent agreement.
Harold Steve Wiser Jr. and Harold V. Wiser violated Monsanto's licensing agreement according to the claims made by the company by replanting GM Roundup Ready seeds collected from a prior season crop. Harold Steve Wiser Jr. runs the largest wheat operation in the state with more than 50 farms in Erie, Mercer, Crawford and Venango counties throughout Western Pennsylvania.
Additionally, according to the article, "Monsanto has filed 145 lawsuits since 1997 against farmers who saved seeds." And they have the funds to do it when you consider that according to the New York Times, 94 percent of soybeans and 72 percent of corn are being grown with GMO seeds.
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GMO seeds are Monsanto's patented seeds.
It gets worse...If seeds from an adjoining farm blow into another farm, the farmer has to pay a royalty to Monsanto on the resulting crop.
It is really a much better idea to do just a little bit of research before spouting off and trying to insult someone. Put as much effort into thinking as you do to throwing barbs and we will all be much happier. I will be the first to admit I am wrong if someone comes back with a correction. On this subject, happy to have you present something that shows I don't have this one correct.
Yes, there are two sides:
Monsanto, and the people.
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People have a need, and a right to know what is in their food, and that is all Prop 37 does.
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No,babe, it is based on solid science, and massive evidence.
Several of Monsanto’s GM products are killing bees too.
Wise bee keepers have begun to withold their hives from areas where GM crops are being grown.
The Bt toxin is also raising hell with humans.
Does Prop 65 inform you about cancer risk, or does it hide real risks in a blizzard of minuscule risks? That's exactly what Prop 37 does. Read post 46 and get back to me.
>> “It not a coincidence that all the left wing websites and the MSM are promoting this proposition.” <<
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A blatant lie!
The MSM are fighting this proposition viciously, and I have only seen support on conservative sites, such as alternate medical sites.
Do you work for Monsanto?
Agreed. Just because a toxin is naturally occurring does not make it benign. Just because a product is GMO does not make it a threat. To throw them all under the same label accomplishes nothing.
McClintock does lots of doofus things, and he follows his money.
He knows nothing about the effects of GMO.
Get out of Monsanto’s back pocket!
“Biotechnology advances” is a contradiction in terms.
The stuff God gave us is food, and the stuff Monsanto shoves down our throats through the power of government is killing all that consume it.
Barbara Boxer is on record in opposition to prop 37.
You’re in appropriately ignorant company.
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>> “Emmer wheat grown by the ancient Egyptians was a bio-engineered grain though accidentally created by grasses naturally crossbreeding” <<
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That is complete nonsense!
Natural exchange of pollen is NOT bio-engineering, and I’m quite sure that you already know that.
You are being deliberately dishonest.
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CO, all 37 does is guarantee that we will have the necessary information to protect ourselves.
If the info that 37 produces is not enough, then more can be done later, but it is best that we not wait until the horse is gone before securing the barn door.
Billions of Californians are saddened by the dishonesty of this poster.
I think you've got me confused with someone else.
>> “Banning the use of GM foods” <<
Banning? - Not in the proposition!
Only the transfer of knowledge, and a legal guarantee thereof is contained in the proposition.
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It appears that Fai Mao has some interest here that he has not disclosed.
Monsanto, Dupont? - Or a farmer that has already destroyed his own land?
What is your interest here, why are you lying?
No, it doesn't. The labels will be so ubiquitous that you won't be able to avoid them. At that point, they'll tell you nothing. Products like Bt corn will be hidden in a blizzard of meaningless warnings.
If the info that 37 produces is not enough, then more can be done later, but it is best that we not wait until the horse is gone before securing the barn door.
What it does is give companies like Monsanto cover. It harms local producers who need GMOs to stretch out the harvest season while leaving the big guys free to invest in Mexican ag and use the pesticides they want and of worse kind and call them "GMO free." Their filthy workers will put their fecal matter on the food, and you'll be happy.
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