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I see the lefties are cheering that "horses and bayonets" line even though it's misleading (vanity)

Posted on 10/22/2012 10:01:00 PM PDT by oneprolifewoman

And what do you know? The Marines still use horses too! So much for Obama scolding Mitt about now knowing anything about the military as it is today!


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KEYWORDS: 2012debates; bayonets; horses; marines; obama

1 posted on 10/22/2012 10:01:05 PM PDT by oneprolifewoman
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To: oneprolifewoman
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2 posted on 10/22/2012 10:02:33 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Get the transcript Candy! - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: oneprolifewoman
The horse photo I intended to link: Marine photo library
3 posted on 10/22/2012 10:03:19 PM PDT by oneprolifewoman
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To: oneprolifewoman

My brother, a Marine, was very disturbed that the POTUS didn’t know that bayonets and horses are still used.


4 posted on 10/22/2012 10:04:03 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: oneprolifewoman

I had a bayonette when I was in the Army. We still have horses and mules, too. How is it that the commander of our military doesn’t know that?

Jerry Bruckheimer Shopping Afghanistan War Story HORSE SOLDIERS
http://collider.com/jerry-bruckheimer-horse-soldiers/130077/

Soldiers get horse training before Afghan tour
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/09/ap-army-afghanistan-soldiers-get-horse-training-before-deployment-090510/


5 posted on 10/22/2012 10:05:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: IncPen

ping for book to get


6 posted on 10/22/2012 10:08:08 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: oneprolifewoman

I posted this on my facebook page just to watch a few liberal heads explode, lol

“Monument honors U.S. ‘horse soldiers’ who invaded Afghanistan
By Alex Quade, Special to CNN
updated 8:03 PM EDT, Thu October 6, 2011”

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/06/us/afghanistan-horse-soldiers-memorial/index.html?fb_action_ids=3296956042579&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582


7 posted on 10/22/2012 10:09:02 PM PDT by angelsonmyside (Someone please send the Loser in Chief a "President For Dummy's" book.)
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To: oneprolifewoman
I will be disappointed if the RNC is not running an ad featuring this within 24 hours:

Yes, Mr. President, bayonets are still important to our military"

8 posted on 10/22/2012 10:10:35 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: oneprolifewoman
Cheering something that has no depth, the Democrat way.
9 posted on 10/22/2012 10:10:41 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: oneprolifewoman

Now now, the pResident is right about how modernized our military is. We have these things called satellites and computers now that let you watch consulates burn down in real time.


10 posted on 10/22/2012 10:11:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: oneprolifewoman

Maybe if the Ambassador would have had bayonet instead of the drone watching what happened he would still be alive.


11 posted on 10/22/2012 10:13:32 PM PDT by funfan
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To: oneprolifewoman

Maybe if the Ambassador would have had bayonet instead of the drone watching what happened he would still be alive.


12 posted on 10/22/2012 10:13:50 PM PDT by funfan
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To: oneprolifewoman

I’ll bet the Taliban got as big a laugh out of this as the Obamanoids did. They don’t have ships that airplanes land on and ships that go under the water.


13 posted on 10/22/2012 10:20:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Get the transcript Candy! - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: oneprolifewoman

Binders and Bayonets!! Obama Biden ‘12


14 posted on 10/22/2012 10:23:52 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: oneprolifewoman
I have a deceased friend that was a "Top Secret" Army Sniper, and on his last tour to Afghanistan, he was only issued 216 rounds for the whole year.
He said one third of his kills, were silent missions, crawling into the enemy's camp while they were sleeping and slitting the throats of every other enemy.
The bayonet is a very well used tool in today's military.
15 posted on 10/22/2012 10:26:05 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
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To: bigbob
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It's slightly off-subject; but did you know that the VMI cadets are the only military institute students who are allowed to march with fixed bayonets. The Charge of the Corps of Cadets at the Battle of New Market during the Civil War earned them that right and honor.

16 posted on 10/22/2012 10:30:30 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ( "I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: oneprolifewoman
Ok this may just turn out to be a big f'in deal.

There's a monument at the WTC commemorating the US Special Operations soldiers who following 9-11 rode into combat in Afghanistan on horseback.

The monument is called "De Oppresso Liber" and an article on the unveiling can be found here.

More importantly, the keynote address at the commemoration was given by none other than Vice President Biden:


17 posted on 10/22/2012 10:32:16 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: FlipWilson

Let’s see - we now have Big Bird, Binders, Bengyazhi, and bayonets. Does that pretty much sum up zero’s plan for the next 4 years?


18 posted on 10/22/2012 10:33:29 PM PDT by Catsrus (Ma)
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To: oneprolifewoman

BAYONET

Mission: Defeat the enemy in hand-to-hand combat. Also used as a general field and utility knife.

ENTERD ARMY SERVICE: M6 (1957), M7 (1964), M9 (1987)

Description and Specifications:

The M6 bayonet-knife is used as a bayonet on the M14 series rifle and as a hand weapon. The M7 bayonet-knife is used as a bayonet on the M16 series rifle, the M4 carbine and as a hand weapon. The M9 multipurpose bayonet system is used as a bayonet on the M16 series rifle, on the M4 series carbine, as a hand weapon, as a general field and utility knife as well as a wire cutter together with its scabbard, and as a saw.

http://www.army.mil/factfiles/equipment/individual/bayonet.html


19 posted on 10/22/2012 10:36:25 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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Bayonet Training
Photo by Department of the Army
May 21, 2007


Pvt. Jose Hernandez, 25, plunges his M16A2 rifle with fixed bayonet, into a tire target on the practice range during Army basic combat training at Fort Jackson, S.C.
 

20 posted on 10/22/2012 10:38:05 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: deks

Bayonet
Photo by army.mil
May 14, 2007

21 posted on 10/22/2012 10:39:15 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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Bayonet
Photo by army.mil
May 14, 2007

22 posted on 10/22/2012 10:40:37 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: oneprolifewoman

Well Obama’s point is partially right but... Even though horses and bayonets are not so central to military thinking these days the anology breaks down because ships are needed in great numbers.

Those aircraft carriers he mentioned move with escort ships and many missions are not for carrier groups so other task organized groups of ships complete the missions. Naval power is still tied to a great variety and quantity of modern ships.


23 posted on 10/22/2012 10:42:57 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: tanknetter
Looks like the picture of Joe Biden at the WTC Horse Soldiers statue in my post was dropped. here's a direct link to it
24 posted on 10/22/2012 10:43:55 PM PDT by tanknetter
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The Marine Bayonet

From 500 yards, every Marine is accurate with a rifle. Attach the OKC-3S Bayonet, and the weapon becomes just as effective in close combat situations. Also a Marine’s multi-purpose fighting knife, the OKC-3S is the weapon of choice when shots can’t be fired. Every Marine receives bayonet training in the Marine Corps Martial Arts Program (MCMAP) and on the Bayonet Assault Course in Recruit Training.

http://www.marines.com/operating-forces/equipment/weapons/bayonet

Click under picture at link for Bayonet features and specifications.


25 posted on 10/22/2012 10:52:28 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: Yosemitest

May I ask, how your friend passed away?


26 posted on 10/22/2012 10:57:59 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Yosemitest

In a pinch a bayonet can also be used in hand to hand combat, used to dig, hack through jungle growth, a fish spear, and many other uses. A true survivalist/soldier knows there is no such thing as a single use tool.


27 posted on 10/22/2012 10:58:07 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I think all the posters here make great points, and show why 0 was wrong. However, the average independent voter does not know or care about these facts, and will never see these admirable rebuttals from Freepers. In their minds, 0 delivered a clever coup-de-grace for which Romney had no response. It would have been more effective had Romney made some of these points during the debate, but 0 won rhetorically.

Not sure how much impact it will have, but 0 definitely won on tactics, even if they were dishonest, since there is no way to go back and correct these impressions in the minds of the debate watchers.

Hoping R&R's lead holds despite today's debate ...

28 posted on 10/22/2012 11:02:59 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: max americana
It's private, a domestic issue.

29 posted on 10/22/2012 11:04:56 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
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To: oneprolifewoman

I think we can assume that Obama (nor Romney) doesn’t know that personally owned tomahawks have been used in hand to hand combat in Iraq, and a fair amount of knife use in close combat.


30 posted on 10/22/2012 11:05:25 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: tanknetter
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Green Berets from the 5th Special Forces Group (Airborne) walked alongside the newly dedicated De Oppresso Liber statue as it made its way down 5th Avenue as part of the New York City Veterans Day Parade, on November 11, 2011.

It was this location where members of Task Force Dagger – a joint Special Operations team consisting mostly of Green Berets from the 5th SFG (A), aircrew members from the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne), and Air Force Combat Controllers – gathered with the Vice President and various New York business leaders and veteran support groups as they unveiled and dedicated an 18-foot statue, entitled De Oppresso Liber.

De Oppresso Liber, which in Latin means “to liberate the oppressed”, depicts a Special Forces Green Beret on horseback leading the invasion into Afghanistan in the weeks that followed the World Trade Center attacks.

It captures the iconic image of adaptability, skill, and courage that characterized the mission and quality of US Army Special Forces Soldiers.

http://horsetalk.co.nz/2011/11/29/horse-soldier-statue-stands-proud-near-ground-zero/#.UIYwQIVgMt4

Biden Unveils Special Forces ‘Horse Statue’

WASHINGTON, Nov. 12, 2011 – Vice President Joe Biden praised the dedication and capabilities of U.S. special operators yesterday as he unveiled a statue in New York honoring the Special Forces soldiers who rode into the mountains of Afghanistan on horseback in pursuit of the Taliban after the 9/11 terror attacks.

http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=66063

31 posted on 10/22/2012 11:08:55 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: nwrep

What is ironic about the whole thing and something Barry and his zombies probably don’t understand was that Barry was actually advocating for small, deadly, hit and run units like the Special Forces riding horses (Horse Soldiers) and carrying bayonets in Afghanistan. LOL! It’s a strange world.


32 posted on 10/22/2012 11:10:19 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (“Big Bird, Binders, Horses and Bayonets!” Sorry that’s all we’ve got! - the DNC)
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To: oneprolifewoman

Did he say aircraft carriers went underwater?


33 posted on 10/22/2012 11:12:42 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: nwrep

Respectfully, I think that if the “average independent” in Wisconsin was informed that Obama threatened to terminate a shipbuilding program that was going to funnel $16 Billion into the state, they’d sit up and take notice.

Probably a lot of blue collar Reagan Democrats would too.

This could be something that puts Romney over the top in Wisconsin. Really, it’s that big of a deal. To the point where I’m starting to wonder whether it was a setup with Romney baiting Obama into saying something phenominally stupid. This looks to me like a gift on a silver platter.


34 posted on 10/22/2012 11:27:05 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: freekitty
I remember Bill Clinton and his minions cheering the sinking of the Oriskany below.
35 posted on 10/23/2012 12:04:07 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
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To: tanknetter

Great to know, thanks for posting link.


36 posted on 10/23/2012 12:08:13 AM PDT by cyn
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To: TigersEye

Wish that had been said.


37 posted on 10/23/2012 12:10:11 AM PDT by cyn
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To: tanknetter; oneprolifewoman

NICE catch!


38 posted on 10/23/2012 12:20:29 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: oneprolifewoman

The commanders have stated that we need more ships than Obama plans to have. Rather than discuss the issue, Obama opted to make a sarcastic quip using the Alinsky tactic of ridiculing Romney.

Problem is, he was also ridiculing the commander’s concern to have more ships and shows his ignorance of the fact that all of the ground troops have bayonets and are trained to use them.


39 posted on 10/23/2012 3:53:16 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: All

there is nothing to be gained, politically speaking, engaging in petty gotcha commentary this late in the race. That was obviously a planned comment by Barry, along with the Costanza rip, but it was far from substantive and did Barry no favors.
Romney needs to go back to his current approach and allow the voters to decide if they want a President or a Celebrity-In-Chief.


40 posted on 10/23/2012 4:03:15 AM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: oneprolifewoman

There’s a reason that the military still uses bayonets - in close combat, the bayonet is much more effective as a weapon than is a rifle. Does O’Stupid think that the military leaves their rifles outside when they enter buildings looking for the enemy?


41 posted on 10/23/2012 4:05:23 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: TigersEye

Now now, the pResident is right about how modernized our military is. We have these things called satellites and computers now that let you watch consulates burn down in real time.


Ooh, if only mitt had said this!!!


42 posted on 10/23/2012 4:09:00 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: oneprolifewoman

The Lefties have no idea of how stupid that comment was. It demonstrated Zero’s total lack of any sort of grasp of the strategic and tactical aspects of a strong Navy. Horses and bayonets were replaced by technology and the Navy has no viable replacement at this time. Anyone woh has any grasp of the implications of that statement would consider it the to be the concrete bucket around Zero’s feet as he sinks into defeat.


43 posted on 10/23/2012 4:51:54 AM PDT by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: oneprolifewoman

No, it’s not misleading-—it’s a LIE like every other word that come out of the mouth of the LIAR in chief.


44 posted on 10/23/2012 4:56:10 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Yaelle; cyn

I think Mitt did well. A president has to know when to hold his fire and let time defeat his opposition. Benghazi will continue to be an issue for the next two weeks. The rest of the country will be learning much of what we here already know about it. More may come out that even we haven’t heard yet.


45 posted on 10/23/2012 11:00:37 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: oneprolifewoman
There was a Marine on Twitter who informed the Idiot in Chief that Marines still used bayonets.

But the biggest clean-your-keyboard moment came when somebody posted:

Why do Marines still use bayonets?

To pick the socialists outta their teeth!

46 posted on 10/23/2012 11:09:00 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as Created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: TigersEye

Great comment! Maybe an epitaph...


47 posted on 10/24/2012 7:43:15 AM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: deks

Too bad it was that clown Biden that spoke at the ceremony

but I am thankful for our special forces nice article.


48 posted on 10/24/2012 7:52:56 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (How do you say Arkanicide in Kenyan?)
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To: wxgesr
That can be the eulogy this can be the epitaph. ;-)
49 posted on 10/24/2012 10:50:19 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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