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Big business is not conservative
WND ^ | 10/22/12 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 10/23/2012 1:29:47 PM PDT by donna

Stephen Moore, of the Wall Street Journal’s editorial board, reported Friday that the Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate from Arizona, Rep. Jeff Flake, has little support among some powerful big businessmen in Arizona:

“In his razor-tight race for Arizona’s open Senate seat, Republican nominee Jeff Flake – a six-term U.S. congressman – recently met behind closed doors with about a dozen leading businessmen in the state, including two powerful and respected CEOs: real-estate developer Mike Ingram and former Phoenix Suns owner Jerry Colangelo.

“Both businessmen supported Mr. Flake’s opponent in the Republican primary (Mr. Flake won by 40 points), and both are pushing for federal financing of a road project that would stretch from Phoenix to Las Vegas. In the western part of the state, the 300-mile highway would bisect their 34,000-acre Douglas Ranch, where they have plans to develop a luxury hotel and upscale homes. A person who attended the meeting recalls that the two asked Mr. Flake: ‘We need to know. Are you going to be an Arizona senator or a U.S. senator?’

“I’m told that Mr. Flake responded by saying that with the country facing a $16 trillion debt, dealing with that problem was his priority.

“Good answer; wrong audience. The two CEOs still haven’t endorsed Flake. In an interview Ingram confirmed the meeting and explained that the business executives in the room ‘worry that Mr. Flake may not support business compared to [Rich] Carmona. … ‘”

This report should surprise no one. Big business has often been at ideological odds with conservatism.

For example, many big businesses did business with the Soviet Union. A well-known example was Occidental Petroleum’s Armand Hammer – a major donor to the Republican Party, no less – who did business whenever possible with Soviet dictators.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: colangelo; flake
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1 posted on 10/23/2012 1:29:47 PM PDT by donna
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To: donna

Big business also likes illegal aliens (slave labor).


2 posted on 10/23/2012 1:34:33 PM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: donna

To function in a heavily regulated environment, Big Business MUST be symbiotic with Gov’t.


3 posted on 10/23/2012 1:34:38 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Try highlighting the text in the post.)
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To: donna

“Big” business recognizes that socialism/liberalism is a great means of excluding competition.

One example from here in Michigan is the smoking ban in bars. The Casinos lobbied for the ban but got an exclusion from the law for themselves. Bar owners are the smallest businessmen of them all often employing less than 5 people and even less.

HOWEVER!

A lot of the blame goes right back to government. If it weren’t for the heavy hand of taxation and regulation, business wouldn’t have any incentive to dump tons of money on political doorsteps.


4 posted on 10/23/2012 1:43:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Paladin2
Big Business MUST be symbiotic with Gov’t.

symbiotic:
a close relationship between two species in which at least one benefits.

Since, in America, we the people are the government that would make Big Business the leech, LOL.

5 posted on 10/23/2012 1:43:52 PM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: cripplecreek
The Casinos lobbied for the ban but got an exclusion from the law for themselves.

Corruption - payoffs!

When government starts making money off the vices, corruption follows.

6 posted on 10/23/2012 1:48:24 PM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: Paladin2
To function in a heavily regulated environment, Big Business MUST be symbiotic with Gov’t.

Reference: NAZI Germany in the 1930's. Look how well that turned out,

7 posted on 10/23/2012 1:50:21 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Paladin2

I like to refer to our local biz publication as The Pittsburgh Communist Business Times, because every issue is chock-full of supposed “entrepreneurs” whining and bitching about “what’s the government going to do for ME?”

As if nobody could ever start a business in this country without Tax Increment Financing, special Enterprise Zones, employee training subsidies or shady deals to sell something to the gubbermint.


8 posted on 10/23/2012 1:54:50 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: donna

Crony big business kept Obama afloat in both 2008 and this year. At least some people on Wall Street got it and left Obama.


9 posted on 10/23/2012 1:57:14 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: donna

Big business is all about crony capitalism these days. It’s why we’re being killed by socialists on both sides of the aisle.


10 posted on 10/23/2012 1:57:28 PM PDT by zeugma (Rid the world of those savages. - Dorothy Woods, widow of a Navy Seal, AMEN!)
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To: donna

What is conservative is free markets with level paying fields where government doesn’t benefit one company over another. No subsidies, no handouts to Solyndra or GM.


11 posted on 10/23/2012 2:05:56 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Paladin2
Which is why liberalism's stated goals are in conflict. It's a self-defeating proposition, unless...you actually want control. Then liberalism makes sense, but it isn't liberal, it's feudal.
12 posted on 10/23/2012 2:07:50 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Paladin2; All

-unfortunately——”if you aren’t at the table, you’re on the menu—”, —


13 posted on 10/23/2012 2:07:52 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: donna

” Big business also likes illegal aliens (slave labor).”

And stick the taxpayer with the cost.


14 posted on 10/23/2012 2:09:54 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: Buckeye McFrog

In my city, the taxpayer FUND the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.... why do taxpayers foot the bill for ethnically based business startups??


15 posted on 10/23/2012 2:10:31 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: donna

True, and as much as many famous takers have contributed to the conservative cause, this is one thing I’ve disagreed with many of them on for years. Many conservatives have, in the past, taken an attitude that business can almost do no wrong, and that business and conservative politics are practically synonymous.

They aren’t, and it’s good to see that more are beginning to say so. The already mentioned crony capitalism and also globalism has made business less values based and less patriotic. Some of the businesses that conduct the greatest business activity in the US are now foreign owned corporations.

Time to view businesses for what they actually do and what politicians they support, and time to end the business is always right and conservative nonsense.


16 posted on 10/23/2012 2:10:35 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
True, and as much as many famous takers

Should be talkers, as in talk show hosts.

17 posted on 10/23/2012 2:12:48 PM PDT by Will88
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The other day Rush was talking about:

“The last time Apple products were really manufactured in this country, you’ve gotta go back to when John Sculley ran the company, the early nineties. Apple had two factories, and they could stamp out a million Macs a day...But the iPhone, the iPod, the current iteration of the iMac, all the Macintosh line of computers, the iPad, have never been made in America. Those are not jobs lost. Those are not manufacturing jobs that have somehow been squandered and lost. Those products have never been made here. However, they wouldn’t exist without American ingenuity...”

I just don’t accept this. These corporations should be good citizens and be loyal to America - because it is the wise thing to do.


18 posted on 10/23/2012 2:28:49 PM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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I use to work for a major DoD company based out of Bethesda, MD and our management structure was very pro-liberal. They were big on promoting diversity (pro-homosexuality). In the group I worked in, my manager was extremely liberal if not marxists and out low-level executive who moved from the East Coast was very liberal as well. II butted heads with my manager many times and one thing for my job, couldn’t do anything without permission. When it came to vacation, I had to get permission to take the time off and get permission to leave town. Also we were expected to donate money to United Way or else... I refused to donate.

That company also caved in to Obama’s request to hold off on giving layoff notices.


19 posted on 10/23/2012 2:58:23 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: CORedneck

I worked for Bank One, long ago, and we were forced to attend “diversity classes” where I “learned” that homosexuality is normal and America has no culture of its own. Each person was expected to pick some other culture that represented their upbringing.


20 posted on 10/23/2012 3:10:04 PM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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