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Why the Obama Campaign Is (Still) So Confident About Beating Romney
TIME The Page ^ | October 24, 2012 | Mark Halperin |

Posted on 10/25/2012 8:50:11 PM PDT by Kenny

47% is probably the most famous number to come out of the 2012 presidential campaign. That’s the percentage of Americans Mitt Romney suggested he was writing off when captured on that famous secretly recorded video during a Florida fundraiser.

But 47% also represents the critical dividing line between how the Romney and Obama campaigns gauge the President’s chances of re-election, viewed through the prisms of their closely guarded internal polling data. In general, the Republicans see a ceiling of around 47% for Obama’s share of the vote in most of the nine battleground states that will decide this contest. The Obama team says it consistently measures their man above that magic line, at around 48-50%.

Both campaigns employ top-flight pollsters who are paid to scientifically take the pulse of the electorate in the battleground states and deliver to the candidate and his strategists an unvarnished view of the state of the race at any given moment. It doesn’t well serve either the incumbent or the challenger to sugarcoat the situation by producing poll results that overstate support (as some pollsters are famous for doing). The key differential between the Chicago and Boston methodologies appears to be assumptions about the final makeup of the electorate in the nine battleground contests.

If the President’s internal data is correct, he is indeed likely to win, pushing off a floor above 47%; using his superior get-out-the-vote operation to dominate early and absentee voting and hold his own on Election Day; and taking a significant share of the small remaining undecided vote. These numbers apply to Chicago’s data from the battleground states, where the President’s support in his campaign’s internal research has consistently outperformed his national poll standing.

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To: Kenny
The Obama team says it consistently measures their man above that magic line, at around 48-50%.

The Obama team are pathological liars.
21 posted on 10/25/2012 10:04:26 PM PDT by 867V309
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To: Uncle Slayton

“Early voting is the biggest threat to our nation and the Republican Party.”

Republicans work. They don’t have all day to stand in line on Election Day so early voting helps them as well.


22 posted on 10/25/2012 10:12:55 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: gswilder

Do you recall who else was on that panel?

Can I assume that their take was that Obama was not in superior competitive position relative to Romney?


23 posted on 10/25/2012 10:36:12 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: Kenny; SeekAndFind; LS; Perdogg; napscoordinator; God luvs America; nutmeg; SoFloFreeper; Ravi; ...

Poll Ping.


24 posted on 10/25/2012 10:39:35 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: Melian
maybe the fix is in...who knows...

Romney is in this to win....he's not a baby....he knows what goes on.....he's not nieve....

these pollsters are manipulators however...

you'll get the bamey ones who will push all the bamey positives and, truely, there are no media/pollsters who are ever in pubs corner...

stay positive....donate...volunteer...vote...

25 posted on 10/25/2012 10:42:21 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Uncle Slayton
those vote protections will never be enlisted IF bamey wins this....there will be no pub president ever again...we'll have a banana republic with a one party rule...like Mexico had for 50 yrs....

there will be a mafia like war among the rats though, which will at least be entertaining...and then maybe some of them will be forced to be differentiate themselves by being conservative...

26 posted on 10/25/2012 10:45:57 PM PDT by cherry
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To: 11th_VA
I haven’t really heard how endorsing gay marriage has affected black voter turn out. I have read that Black Ministers really don’t like Obama’s gay marriage intiatives and aren’t pushing for the Obama vote. Did Obama really think more gays would vote for him than he would lose in black votes?
27 posted on 10/25/2012 10:46:58 PM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Doing your schtick again, Slayton?


28 posted on 10/25/2012 10:58:25 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Kenny

Dead men tell no tales however, sometimes they do vote. It is said that 9 out of 10 dead people prefer donkeys to elephants!

Let’s not forget the donkey ‘money’ quote: “Vote early and vote often!”


29 posted on 10/26/2012 12:09:24 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was lost but now I'm found; blind but now I see.)
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To: Kenny

I’ve got news for ya, Mark: they aren’t confident.


30 posted on 10/26/2012 1:25:55 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: onyx

if Romney loses...the public will get voter fraud fixed once and for all...with an axe if necessary...not a soul will believe Obambi won....not one


31 posted on 10/26/2012 1:33:09 AM PDT by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
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To: Kenny

It would have been nice had Halperin devoted even one sentence to laying out the case as to why this is all so much folderol.


32 posted on 10/26/2012 1:43:39 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Kenny
and taking a significant share of the small remaining undecided vote.

Not going to happen.

Only in the deluded world of the Left does 47% beat 50%.

33 posted on 10/26/2012 1:54:43 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration
"definitive sureness about the outcome." !!!

When they (in this case a shill for the campaign, not the campaign itself, but the following applies to both) use a tautological adjective to modify an already tautalogical-adjective-mangled-into-a-noun, it's psycho-structurally over.

Might as well just use "absolute" or it's adverb, "absolutely" - Obama's most worn out tautological distractives. The private sector is absolutely not doing fine. The video was absolutely reprehensible.

A great concept/phrase is that of damning with faint praise.

Here, we have double damning by attempting to modify a tautology.

34 posted on 10/26/2012 3:00:24 AM PDT by HannibalHamlinJr
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To: TonyInOhio

The fact that obama is coming to Cleveland this week instead of swing-voter territory in Ohio means he is very weak in our state. 48-46 o/R? Not even close here I would say. His ground effort must not be doing much good.


35 posted on 10/26/2012 3:47:33 AM PDT by gotribe (He's a mack-daddy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV415yit7Zg)
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To: Kenny
Wrong. I don't know about the "internal" stuff but in Dayton OH the D GOTV is a joke this time. Example: Obama rolled into town last week for a rally of 9000. The Ds had 27(!!!) Greyhound busses to take those from the rally to early vote at election HQ. R observers were ready. One full bus arrived. Then a half full, . . . Then empty busses. We posted a pic yesterday of the empty chairs at HQ. they got 300 when they expected "thousands". One GOP operative said the Ds have the " deer in the headlights" look and can't believe what is happening to them. Rs in my sing county actually expect to win the county, overcoming a 5000 08 deficit. We OUTREGISTERED Ds

Does all that sound like a great GOTV effort?

36 posted on 10/26/2012 3:59:34 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: 11th_VA

Please read the spreadsheet links that we have posted here for two months. Ad I think the number is closer to -175,000 from 08 absentees for the Ds.


37 posted on 10/26/2012 4:02:46 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: cherry

You are right! All we can do is stay positive, donate, volunteer, vote, and pray.

I am leery after the myth of the PUMAs from the last election. I don’t believe there were any. It was just a red herring perpetrated by the media to lull the GOP into missteps. It seems very odd to me that all the numbers are 47%.


38 posted on 10/26/2012 6:05:22 AM PDT by Melian ("Where will wants not, a way opens.")
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To: Kenny

In the words of Yogi Berra - “It isn’t over till it’s over.”

Yep, looks really good for Romney, but he hasn’t won yet and the ‘rats are desperate. They’d like nothing more than for us to get over confident and end up losing. And, they cheat.

We still have over a week to go. Keep fighting the good fight.


39 posted on 10/26/2012 6:23:10 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: 11th_VA
Click Here for the Ohio spreadsheet that LS was talking about.

The Absentee votes and Early voting are being counted together in these numbers for 2012. The 2008 numbers are absentees only...Ohio didn't have early voting back then.

The numbers change every couple of days so save the link under your favorites and you can check back regularly to see what's happening in Ohio.

Best Regards,

umbob

40 posted on 10/26/2012 6:44:13 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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