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Obama's September 11 Phone Call (during Benghazi attack)
Weekly Standard ^ | 10-28-2012 | William Kristol

Posted on 10/28/2012 8:21:01 AM PDT by smoothsailing

Obama's September 11 Phone Call

William Kristol

October 28, 2012 10:53 AM

What was President Obama doing Tuesday evening, September 11, while Americans were under assault in Benghazi? Which of his national security team did he meet with, whom did he speak with, what directives did he issue? So far, the White House won't say

But we do know one thing the president found time to do that evening: He placed a call to Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu in order to defuse a controversy about President Obama's refusal to meet with Netanyahu two weeks later at the U.N. General Assembly, and, according to the White House announcement that evening, spent an hour on the phone with him:

Obama, Netanyahu: Hour phone call Tuesday night; White House denies snub

By Lynn Sweet on September 11, 2012 8:18 PM | 

President Barack Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu discussed Iran and other issues in a hour-long phone call on Tuesday night, the White House announced--along with a statement that Netanyahu, contrary to news reports, never asked for a meeting with the president.

The White House briefed on the call between the two leaders as tensions with Iran are growing--talk of an Israeli pre-emptive strike on Iran nuclear facilities is escalating--and stories about Obama snubbing Netanyahu--now denied--present a political problem to a president who is wooing the Jewish vote. In a statement issued Tuesday evening, the White House said, "President Obama spoke with Prime Minister Netanyahu for an hour tonight as a part of their ongoing consultations. The two leaders discussed the threat posed by Iran's nuclear program, and our close cooperation on Iran and other security issues...

While Americans were under assault in Benghazi, the president found time for a non-urgent, politically useful, hour-long call to Prime Minister Netanyahu. And his senior national staff had to find time to arrange the call, brief the president for the call, monitor it, and provide an immediate read-out to the media. I suspect Prime Minister Netanyahu, of all people, would have understood the need to postpone or shorten the phone call if he were told that Americans were under attack as the president chatted. But for President Obama, a politically useful telephone call—and the ability to have his aides rush out and tell the media about that phone call—came first.

So here are a few more questions for the White House: While President Obama was on the phone for an hour, did his national security advisor Tom Donilon or any other aide interrupt the call or slip him a piece of paper to inform him about what was happening in Benghazi? Or was President Obama out of the loop for at least an hour as events unfolded and decisions were made? On the other hand, national security staff were obviously with the president during and immediately after the phone call—otherwise how could they have put out their statement right away? Surely his aides told the president about what was happening in Benghazi. Was there then no discussion of what was or what wasn't being done to help, pursuant to the president's first directive that everything possible be done?  


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911ii; 911iiphonecall; 911phonecall; bengazi; benghazi; benghazigate; benrhodes; israel; jaycarney; kenyanbornmuzzie; libya; netanyahu; obama; obamaphonecall; standdown; susanrice; waronterror

1 posted on 10/28/2012 8:21:07 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

I am TERRIFIED that this”Creature”has been “Commander-in-Chief”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 10/28/2012 8:25:29 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: smoothsailing

powerline has a great TimeLine on this story along with details not in many others...did you hear about the team of 8 that landed 2 hours into the fight and helpd get people out of the annex? One rumor is that the A130 was piloted by a woman and Obambi didn’t want her to get hurt, so he waved it off - even with the laser pointing at the bad guys. After all women need to be protected - even combat pilots. (I doubt this is true but it would be a huge knock on the Prez and the DOD)


3 posted on 10/28/2012 8:27:46 AM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: bandleader

Mr. Panetta was at the White House for a regular meeting on the afternoon of Sept. 11 as the first reports of the attack unfolded, an American official said. By that evening Mr. Panetta had consulted with General Dempsey and General Ham and had ordered a number of American military forces in the region to move closer to Libya.

Defense officials say they did not receive a request for military support from the State Department as the attack unfolded.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/world/africa/panetta-tells-of-monitoring-situation-in-benghazi.html?_r=0


4 posted on 10/28/2012 8:27:59 AM PDT by barryobi
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To: smoothsailing
This is a good thread to come up with as many QUESTIONS as possible about what happened during the Ben Ghazi murders.

I'll start:
1: WHO gave the 'stand down' order THREE TIMES?

5 posted on 10/28/2012 8:29:00 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: smoothsailing
I find in very plausible that Obama was out of the loop for an hour phone call; after all Obama has been out of the loop for the last 4 years.
6 posted on 10/28/2012 8:29:48 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: smoothsailing
I read somewhere that when Obama got the initial call he was in the middle of a round of golf.

Anyone have access to the WH schedule to verify this? The attack began at 3:30 DC time.

7 posted on 10/28/2012 8:30:12 AM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: smoothsailing

Jerusalem is six hours ahead of Washington.


8 posted on 10/28/2012 8:32:35 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: smoothsailing

I’m sure Netanyahu wouldn’t have a problem throwing Obama under a bus. Is there any way to find out what he was doing for said hour on the evening of 9/11?


9 posted on 10/28/2012 8:38:47 AM PDT by CheneyChick (01/20/2013)
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To: TruthWillWin

http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2012-09-11

4:40 PM
The President departs Bethesda, Maryland en route the White House
Press Information

4:50 PM
The President arrives at the White House
South Lawn
Open Press

5:00 PM
The President and the Vice President meet with Secretary of Defense
Oval Office
Closed Press


10 posted on 10/28/2012 8:39:18 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: sirchtruth

Question #2 : Why was Ambassador Stevens there without security ? (Sacrificial / collateral demage ?)
Question #3 : How many weapons did the U.S. contribute to the Mussie Buddiehood ?
Question #4 : Why did the White House lie about the attack for 11 days, even though they saw with their own eyes


11 posted on 10/28/2012 8:41:51 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Islam is a political organization which hides behind religious intolerance for others)
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To: smoothsailing; CodeToad; Lazamataz; Bon mots; Diogenesis; dead

12 posted on 10/28/2012 8:42:09 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: smoothsailing

Hell, Bibi probably could have filled in Obama on what was going on in Benghazi (just as they did for the Achille Lauro hijacking). It would not surprise me that Bibi more than once in the conversation asked the President if he’d like to postpone the discussion so he could go and deal with the Libyan situation.


13 posted on 10/28/2012 8:46:26 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Why not eliminate the middle man and have whoever feeds Obama his lines debate Romney directly?")
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To: sirchtruth

2. You just fired General Ham. Is it because he wanted to send in the Delta Forces (that only a couple hundred miles away) to assist and was willing to override your orders to stand down?
3. You just fired the Admiral in the Persian Gulf. Is it because he wanted to send in forces (that only a couple hundred miles away) to assist and was willing to override your orders to stand down? Did you have him relieved of command on the spot because of this?
4. If one of the seals was lasing the target, was he doing this because there was an AC130 gunship hovering overhead that was being refused the order to fire? Or was he just lasing because lasing is fun ... in lieu of firing his weapon at his attackers.


14 posted on 10/28/2012 8:47:42 AM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: sirchtruth

2. You just fired General Ham. Is it because he wanted to send in the Delta Forces (that only a couple hundred miles away) to assist and was willing to override your orders to stand down?
3. You just fired the Admiral in the Persian Gulf. Is it because he wanted to send in forces (that only a couple hundred miles away) to assist and was willing to override your orders to stand down? Did you have him relieved of command on the spot because of this?
4. If one of the seals was lasing the target, was he doing this because there was an AC130 gunship hovering overhead that was being refused the order to fire? Or was he just lasing because lasing is fun ... in lieu of firing at his weapon at his attackers.


15 posted on 10/28/2012 8:47:57 AM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: CheneyChick

Agreed. I believe Netanyahu would be quite candid and forthcoming if asked about this. He’d just be verifying the public record. The White House put out a statement about the call on the evening of September 11th.


16 posted on 10/28/2012 8:48:01 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: bandleader
Was there then no discussion of what was or what wasn't being done to help, pursuant to the president's first directive that everything possible be done?

More likely a discussion of "everything possible being done" to attempt to cover their own political a$$es, even if in their minds it necessitated hanging our guys who were desperately fighting for their lives in Benghazi out to dry in the process.

17 posted on 10/28/2012 8:48:01 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Travis McGee

Most people haven’t a clue our guy was dragged through the streets. In fact, it wasn’t cowardice that kept Obama from making the decision, it was his support for that arms deal going down, but I kept it at a cartoon level since the vast majority of people have the attention span of a cartoon character.


18 posted on 10/28/2012 8:48:09 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: CodeToad
I thought it gave focus to that haunted look on cartoon Obama’s face. The ghostly image of Amb Stevens is, I hope, haunting him.

Assuming Obama has a soul, or a conscience.

19 posted on 10/28/2012 8:50:34 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: smoothsailing

Isn’t it something that the Dems wish “stuff like 9-11 happened on their watch” so that they can look all executive and presidential and garner all kinds of support...and when it does, as in Libya they get up a good clusterf**k?


20 posted on 10/28/2012 8:51:06 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: CheneyChick
I’m sure Netanyahu wouldn’t have a problem throwing Obama under a bus. Is there any way to find out what he was doing for said hour on the evening of 9/11?

I have a feeling the Prime Minister would be positively delighted to do that -- and then drive the bus.

21 posted on 10/28/2012 8:56:07 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Storm the heavens with your prayers for Mitt Romney tonight.)
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To: CheneyChick

It seems more plausible that Obama and Netanyahu were monitoring the attack in real time and discussing who was behind it, rather than having a little chit-chat.

The Benghazi incident was much, much bigger than it has been portrayed. This may be why Romney didn’t push it in the third debate, since he has been getting security briefings. It involes arms shipments to Syria, and Israel, Iran, Russia, Egypt, Turkey know what’s going on. It looks like the ME is on the edge of a big war. The YouTube story was a clumsy attempt by Obama and Hillary! to diffuse this powder keg that they created with their “Arab Spring”. At least until after the election.


22 posted on 10/28/2012 8:56:20 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: bandleader

Democraps have their priorities at these times. With Obama, it’s talking to Netanyahu on the phone for political gains. With Bill Clinton, it was getting a hummer from Lewinsky, while talking on the phone to Congressman Callahan about sending troops into Bosnia. Human lives means nothing to them when it comes to political image, and sex.


23 posted on 10/28/2012 8:59:51 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: NonValueAdded; CheneyChick; All
whpr
24 posted on 10/28/2012 8:59:52 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Since this is coming straight from the White House, it must be true.
/ sarcasm


25 posted on 10/28/2012 9:02:29 AM PDT by CheneyChick (01/20/2013)
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To: CheneyChick

Well it was verified by Valerie Jarrett and David Axelrod!

I mean, come on CC! :o)


26 posted on 10/28/2012 9:05:41 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: BigBobber
Agreed. Benghazi is the other Epic Storm, that the media isn't covering.
27 posted on 10/28/2012 9:05:58 AM PDT by CheneyChick (01/20/2013)
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To: smoothsailing

Oh, right.... Good point. ;-)


28 posted on 10/28/2012 9:07:01 AM PDT by CheneyChick (01/20/2013)
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To: smoothsailing

Oh, right.... Good point. ;-)


29 posted on 10/28/2012 9:07:01 AM PDT by CheneyChick (01/20/2013)
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To: barryobi

The call for help is instantaneous once the Imminent Danger Notification is activated. And it WAS activated.


30 posted on 10/28/2012 9:07:44 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: BigBobber

I think that the phone call was used as a cover for obama. He knew from before the attack that it was coming. He had the security forces removed. He was in on the attack in some way. I think a kidnapping and exchange for Blind Sheik in order to make self big hero for election. Backfired as two security guys from the safe house came with blazing guns.


31 posted on 10/28/2012 9:10:35 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: smoothsailing

Those in charge of this, overseeing the results of further examiniation of what happened, should be aware that when they are lied to by this man, there will be a scapegoat and it will be very difficult to detect, as these people (he) will fabricate events that will make others turn to the scapegoat for answers while he flies off to the golf game he so richly deserves.

Just look at the way he gets even us to turn against each other.

From Pat Buchanan to Laura Ingraham, people were roaring about how Romney should’ve hammered him on Libya. No, the press should have. Certainly Bob Scheiffer should have.

Charlles Krauthammer stayed in the “that’s not Romney’s job Here” column. He (CK) is a psychiatrist.

By the way, Romney knows too. He has experts who tell him to stay off of these topics as Ob will stick to him like slime from a MIB alien. RR know how desperate Ob is and what he’ll do to remain where he is.

Staying on topic is key.

Ob has no chance against the special forces guys. They, out of survival, must treat their job performance with complete honesty. Woods had to ignore (if true) orders to stand down. His job is to protect the embassy to the death. He won’t be used as a scapegoat.

They and RR have Ob running nervous, but not finished, as he planned to blame them.

Everyone else is fair game.

Ob is better at turning people against each other than Bill Clinton is at lying.

The following is from:
Narcissism Understood
Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde - The personality disorder that destroys relationships, families and lives
by Melanie Tonia Evans

“Narcissistic Personality Disorder . . . a person who is never wrong, never sorry and believes it is always someone else’s fault? Have you ever experienced an individual who’s non-accountable for their behaviour and doesn’t learn despite the mayhem and pain they produce? Have you witnessed an individual who has no tolerance for the slightest criticism, even when given constructive advice?

Another symptom of narcissism is pathological lying. . .
. . . To be honest (and therefore vulnerable) terrifies the narcissist. . . He needs to uphold lies so people don’t discover the truth of who he really is. The narcissist finds comfort in not being pinned down, and not being accountable. More lies are necessary to cover up a previous lie. The pathological lies become malignant and the high-level narcissist scripting an illusionary life begins to believe his own versions. This is why pathological lying is so hard to detect, and may even pass a polygraph.

Additionally the narcissist doesn’t suffer a guilty conscience. He believes he’s entitled to lie. It’s the only way he knows how to operate in a world of ‘me versus you’ without the emotional resources to trust. . . They don’t trust anyone. The narcissist makes sure he gets you before you can get him.
. . . He will twist and turn facts and create imaginary allies to back up “I’m right and you’re wrong”. He will tell intricate and explicit lies to hit your weak points.
. . . you couldn’t fathom an adult lying in such detail unless it was the truth, and what’s more he doesn’t care who he degrades, damages or discredits in the lies.”

The American voters are accountable for whom they put in charge of the military, at least, if they don’t find it important to be careful to put in charge of the nation, someone at least in touch with the basic virtues and their importance in daily living.


32 posted on 10/28/2012 9:25:03 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Travis McGee

“Assuming Obama has a soul, or a conscience. “

He’s a total narcissist. I think this entire presidency was nothing but a fraternity style prank he thought of year ago.


33 posted on 10/28/2012 9:25:44 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: smoothsailing
Good questions! Keep asking.

1:Why was the maker of the "video" arrested?
2:Why does he NOT get a bail hearing until after the election?

34 posted on 10/28/2012 9:33:35 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow

Post of the year!


35 posted on 10/28/2012 9:43:10 AM PDT by matthew fuller (We're gonna need at least three ropes.)
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To: stanne

Excellent post. Whatever else he may or may not be, it’s safe to say he is one sick cookie.


36 posted on 10/28/2012 10:09:59 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Right. Should have prefaced with:

“don’t know if he is a narcissist in fact, but don’t be fooled by his intricate and expert lies and manipulations”. Some people have no acquaintance with the truth.


37 posted on 10/28/2012 10:29:47 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
Some people have no acquaintance with the truth.

Such people are generally known as Democrats. :)

38 posted on 10/28/2012 10:50:08 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
Bingo....WHY was Stevens in Benghazi?????

And WHY was he there without any security???

And WHY was his 16 man security team REMOVED from him in August??

And WHY were the 2 SEALS there??/ WHO were they working for?? DOING WHAT??? Were they SPYING on the ARMS deal that Stevens may have been doing with the Muslim Brotherhood???

39 posted on 10/28/2012 12:03:39 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Travis McGee

Obama is a COLD FISH.....he went PARTYING in Las Vegas right after these people were MURDERED, and HE HAS BLOOD ON HIS HANDS!


40 posted on 10/28/2012 12:05:54 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: smoothsailing; All
Report: Obama Watched Benghazi Attack From 'Situation Room'

Justice with Judge Jeanine 10/27/12 - CIA talks about latest news about Benghazi coverup

Judge Jeanine speaking with Charles Woods, father of Benghazi slain SEAL Ty Woods

Judge Jeanine asks White House 'How do you sleep at night'

41 posted on 10/28/2012 12:12:49 PM PDT by Larousse2 (The price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: bandleader
Here is a possible scenario for the future.....

Obama steals the election....

GOP wins control of the Senate and the House....

The House impeaches him.....

The Senate convicts him...

He is removed from office...

And they all lived happily ever after.

42 posted on 10/28/2012 12:15:00 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001. NEVER FORGET.)
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow

Oh for the good old days when a general would get the message to stand down and would tell his aid “That’s what you think it said. I say it’s scrambled. Respond that we didn’t understand the message. Now, get that AC130 in the air! Now!”


43 posted on 10/28/2012 6:35:53 PM PDT by Terry Mross (To former friends and relatives. Don't ever contact me if you still support obama.)
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow

Oh for the good old days when a general would get the message to stand down and would tell his aid “That’s what you think it said. I say it’s scrambled. Respond that we didn’t understand the message. Now, get that AC130 in the air! Now!”


44 posted on 10/28/2012 6:38:14 PM PDT by Terry Mross (To former friends and relatives. Don't ever contact me if you still support obama.)
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To: Travis McGee

“Good start for Qatar initiative

Qatar has once again taken the centre stage in helping the world community look beyond the fallout of the popular uprisings in Arab nations. By becoming part of the effort to recover assets from ousted regimes, and restore them to the public, Qatar has also affirmed the participation of the United States as an equal partner.
Addressing the last day of the meeting of the Arab Forum on Asset Recovery held in Doha this week, US Attorney General Eric Holder said: “I want to make clear that the United States intends to serve not as a patron, but as a partner; not as a monitor, but as a collaborator.”
Earlier, the initiative also had the backing of US President Barack Obama, who said it would help to stabilise the economy of North American nations caught up in political turmoil since December 2010.
The inaugural three-day session of the Arab Forum on Asset Recovery brought together G8 countries, as well as several Arab states and Turkey, with the aim of starting a process of collaboration on legislative measures for Arab countries that ousted their dictators.
Qatar’s Attorney General, HE Ali bin Fetais al-Marri, who is also the UN special advocate on stolen asset recovery, called for the prosecution of those responsible for stealing public assets.
With the legal framework in view, it will not be long before the complicated web of financial thievery by despotic rulers starts to unravel.”

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=531208&version=1&template_id=46&parent_id=26

On Holder at the Doha conference on stolen assets of the Arab ‘spring’
http://www.mainjustice.com/justanticorruption/2012/09/11/holder-attending-doha-forum-on-stolen-assets-of-the-arab-spring/

This page is now gone....
Front - U.S. military won’t have role in probe of Libya consulate attack - WASHINGTON - World - Tri-CityHerald.com *

Attending a conference in Doha, Qatar, US Attorney General Eric Holder said that the bureau has opened an investigation into the deaths of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the three other Americans who were killed during the attack on the consulate. September 13, 2012 Updated 1 hour ago.

www.tri-cityherald.com/ 2012/ 09/ 13/ 2099575/ fbi-libyan-security-probe-embassy.html


45 posted on 10/28/2012 6:51:04 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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