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Physicians Who Use Marijuana are 'Unsafe to Practice' (Colorado)
Medscape ^ | October 29 2012 | Kate Johnson

Posted on 10/30/2012 4:49:14 PM PDT by Stoat

Physicians Who Use Marijuana are 'Unsafe to Practice'

MONTREAL, Canada — Physicians who legally use medical marijuana to treat their own debilitating conditions such as chronic pain or nausea are considered unsafe to practice medicine in the state of Colorado until such time that they no longer need the treatment, according to a policy from the Colorado Physician Health Program.

"We took a conservative stance," Doris Gundersen, MD, Medical Director of the Colorado Physician Health Program, told Medscape Medical News after her presentation here at the International Conference on Physician Health (ICPH). "We don't want to deny them treatment...but until they no longer need it, or we have better ways of correlating impairment, they can't practice."

She said Colorado is the first state to come up with such a policy, prompted by reports of physicians who were legally using the substance. "The medical board appealed to us about how to manage this, there were several physicians referred and we happened to see they were also using marijuana — they had legitimate [Medical Marijuana Registry identification] cards," she said.

"This is where we got a little nervous. All of the associate medical directors at the Colorado Physician Health Program are psychiatrists and addiction specialists, and we recognized very quickly that this may not be compatible with practicing medicine safely.... We don't want physicians excluded from treatment that they need, but at the same time we need to protect the public," Dr. Gundersen said.

"Viral Situation"

In her presentation at the conference, Dr. Gundersen told delegates about the "viral situation" in Colorado, where the number of Medical Marijuana Registry identification cards has "grown exponentially" from around 17,000 in 2009 to almost 128,000 by June 2011.

"According to the Denver Post, there are more medical marijuana dispensaries in Denver than there are Starbucks and liquor stores combined," she said.

While debate continues about the general safety and efficacy of medical marijuana, physician use of this treatment deserves specific attention, she emphasized.

"The way we view it is that physicians, like pilots, are in safety-sensitive employment.... There's not a good way to measure concentrations and correlate that to impairment, but very low concentrations can impair," she said, citing one study suggesting that among airline pilots, impairment on flight simulators persisted up to 24 hours after smoking a marijuana cigarette, even though subjects were unaware of it (Am J Psych. 1985;142:1325-1329).

Another study showed decision-making errors 50% to 70% of the time in long-time marijuana users compared with 8% of the time in nonusers (Neurology. 2006;66:737-739).

It's unclear what the cut-off level is for marijuana impairment. "Even at levels as low as 3 ng/mL there are some mind-altering effects," she said, adding that a concentration of at least 10 ng/mL is required to relieve symptoms such as chronic pain or nausea.

Public Safety "Supersedes" Individual Rights

"To have a license to practice is a privilege, not a right, and public safety supersedes an individual physician," she said. "If we get more sophisticated in correlating levels with safety, our policy may change, but right now it's conservative and it's honestly to protect the public but also the physician from making errors."

Dr. Gundersen pointed out that physicians also should not practice while impaired by other medications or alcohol, although the use of these substances does not preclude them from practicing medicine altogether.

"Things that are approved by the FDA generally have pretty standardized dosing, and we can perform some neuropsychiatric testing to make sure physicians are not impaired," she explained. "Again, with alcohol we have better cut-offs in terms of what should be considered impairing."

Dr. Gundersen said the marijuana policy is a "first effort out there to make sense of something we don't have enough science about to make decisions on, and so far there's been no case law challenging it."

Asked to comment on the policy, Andrew Clarke, MD, Executive Director of the Physician Health Program of British Columbia, told Medscape Medical News it is "not an unreasonable position — whether or not it's the best position is an ongoing debate.

"There are many medications that impair one's judgment and people do take them, so it's a tough call to decide when would we draw a line and say anybody taking this medication shouldn't be practicing," he said in an interview. "Or maybe there are circumstances when someone who uses that medication from time to time might still be able to practice in-between the times they use it, like alcohol or other sedative medications, or sedating antihistamines."

A pivotal point in the debate is the issue of self-prescription, said Dr. Clarke.

"It's clear that nobody should be self-prescribing marijuana ever," he said. "There's lots of medications out there that impair one's judgment and physicians use those medications to get better, but it's very important that it be done under the supervision of someone else.

"When we're in a situation where there's an illness that impairs judgment or we're prescribing a medication that impairs judgment and there's no second opinion on that, then we have a very potentially difficult situation," Dr. Clarke said.

Dr. Gundersen and Dr. Clarke have disclosed no relevant financial relationships.

2012 AMA-CMA-BMA International Conference on Physician Health (ICPH) Presented October 27, 2012.

 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: cannabis; colorado; doctors; drugs; drugwar; health; healthcare; marijuana; physicians; potheads; warondrugs; wod; wodlist; wosd
Stoned Surgeons
1 posted on 10/30/2012 4:49:24 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

Logical consequences.


2 posted on 10/30/2012 4:52:57 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: Stoat

“According to the Denver Post, there are more medical marijuana dispensaries in Denver than there are Starbucks and liquor stores combined,” she said.

I guess everyone is very sick and suffering in Colorado,huh?
Medical marijuana wouldn’t be such a joke if it was only available by prescription from a real doctor with an MD.


3 posted on 10/30/2012 4:58:10 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: Slings and Arrows
 

 

 

(ping)

4 posted on 10/30/2012 5:00:05 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Stoat

Oh, man. You just ruined the evening of the Freepers who are waiting for legalization of pot.


5 posted on 10/30/2012 5:33:49 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine .)
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To: Stoat

Good policy. Pot should be illegal.


6 posted on 10/30/2012 6:13:53 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Stoat

duh

who would make an issue of that? oh right... THEM AGAIN


7 posted on 10/30/2012 6:20:50 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ari-freedom

a real doctor, not someone working for the dispensary or being paid by them directly. right?


8 posted on 10/30/2012 6:22:07 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Stoat

Our choomster president is working out just fine. It’s obvious that marijuana and cocaine didn’t mess up his brain.


9 posted on 10/30/2012 6:33:47 PM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: Stoat
Bullshit.
Notice that there is no prohibition against alcoholic doctors that drink not for medical reasons. Trust a doctor to be the best judge of whether they are qualified to practice. If there is any misbehavior, then take issue with that particular doctor. In Colorado even ultra-conservative Tom Tancredo has come out for legalized pot. It's not a leftist thing it all (Tancredo says), it's the opposite. On this thread and others I've noticed that a lot of those still pushing for illegal pot are the old guard, the baby boomers, authoritarians subscribing to an archaic political way thinking that was foisted upon Americans in the 1930s as a way to occupy unemployed Alcohol Prohibition officers.

10 posted on 10/30/2012 6:44:56 PM PDT by Hokestuk
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To: Stoat

I have a better and more important safety check, which cares less about specific types of drug “self-medication” and would simply require “drug tests” for the doctors before surgery, period.

i can think of plenty of opiates, steroids, and nerve drugs that any doctor self-medicating themselves with could be doing in ways, abuse, that are and have been a risk their patients, particularly in surgery.

The critical key and the critical difference, with any drug, is “under the influence” and abuse, not simply use.

And, “self medication” of many opiates, steroids and nerve drugs, or otherwise “mind-altering susbtances”, by any doctor, should mandate suspension of practice.

Targeting marijuana can be overkill with regard to one specific drug - when “under the influence” and abuse are the primary issues, and insufficient in the sense that all kinds of drugs deserve the same concern.


11 posted on 10/30/2012 6:46:35 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Stoat

12 posted on 10/30/2012 7:22:31 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Stoat

I think Ralph Nader said it best: “Unsafe with any Weed”


13 posted on 10/30/2012 7:25:05 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: ari-freedom
Medical marijuana wouldn’t be such a joke if it was only available by prescription from a real doctor with an MD.

Sadly, the DEA has threatened to revoke the ability to prescribe ANY controlled substance (e.g., painkillers) from any doctor who prescribes marijuana.

14 posted on 10/31/2012 10:54:46 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Stoat
It's unclear what the cut-off level is for marijuana impairment. [...] "Things that are approved by the FDA generally have pretty standardized dosing, and we can perform some neuropsychiatric testing to make sure physicians are not impaired,"

They can, but unless they do- and there's no evidence here or elsewhere to suggest that they do - then the whole "cut-off" issue is a smokescreen.

15 posted on 10/31/2012 11:00:48 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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