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In Florida, Obamacare to Cause 27% of Doctors to Stop Accepting Medicare Patients
Forbes ^ | 103012 | Avik Roy

Posted on 10/30/2012 6:43:58 PM PDT by Fred

With the Presidential election one week away, it’s worth reviewing how Obamacare will impact the residents of key swing states. A new survey of physicians has found that 30 percent of doctors in Florida intend to place new or additional limits on accepting Medicare patients, with 27 percent altogether refusing to accept new Medicare patients, because of Obamacare’s impact on the fees that Medicare pays to providers of health-care services. In addition, Obamacare will deeply cut Medicare Advantage for 1.2 million Florida seniors who are enrolled in the program, and drive up the cost of private health coverage, especially for those who buy insurance on their own.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; florida; obama; obamacare; romney; socializedmedicine

1 posted on 10/30/2012 6:43:59 PM PDT by Fred
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To: Fred

30 % = 27 % = 57% of Florida Doctors to limit or end use of Federal Taxpayer Dollars to defray their soaring Medical costs.


2 posted on 10/30/2012 6:52:28 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Fred

I think the future of quality US medical care will be offshore.

The best and brightest will set up facilities in the Caribbean (outside the jurisdiction of the fedgov) that will serve the top 5%.

It will be like private jets vs the “human cattle car” of commercial aviation. Or Baraq Obama sending his kids to Sidwell while the peons head to DC schools.


3 posted on 10/30/2012 6:52:40 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: Fred

As someone who is disabled and on medicare, I regularly thank my doctors for seeing me because I know they are already being paid substantially less for doing so, when they don’t have to take medicare patients.

When enough disabled and seniors are unable to find a doctor who will take ‘medicare’, they’ll be screaming for the single payer solution in which all doctors will be forced to work for the government and be paid to see anyone/everyone.

Unfortunately, those same doctors will probably get paid less than they already do when taking medicare patients and so they will either find a black market for patients with $$$, or they’ll opt for another line of work.

There will be no middle...have...or....have not.


4 posted on 10/30/2012 6:54:54 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Fred

And the remaining doctors are ones you don’t want to see, who are second and third rate


5 posted on 10/30/2012 6:57:15 PM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: Fred

here we go...


6 posted on 10/30/2012 7:01:38 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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7 posted on 10/30/2012 7:05:48 PM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Fred

Our FL dr has said he is moving to cash only if they don’t get rid of Obamacare.


8 posted on 10/30/2012 7:06:53 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Fred

There are a lot of retired lawyers in Florida. They’ve been trying to put doctors out of business their whole working lives. Those retired lawyers should be at the top of the list of the first to be denied Medicare doctors.


9 posted on 10/30/2012 7:25:44 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: I still care
Well, why wouldn't they?

Medicare patients are generally very sick and/or old. They usually have multiple medical problems. Often they will require at least 45 minutes blocked out to see them.

How would you like to know that the BEST you can charge is $40?

And don't forget that if you make a minor mistake in coding or billing, that the government will come down on you like a ton of bricks, bankrupting you or sending you to jail.

Not worth that kind of risk for such a tiny "payday".

Better off just to not see medicare patients at all.

This pains me, because there are so many people out there that depend on medicare. Some very good people.

But, you wanted Obama, you get Obama.

Good luck in finding a provider within 50 miles. And good luck if they speak English.

10 posted on 10/30/2012 7:27:28 PM PDT by boop ("I can't trust anybody! What are you trying to do to me? Everybody is trying to cut me down, destroy)
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To: nascarnation
I think the future of quality US medical care will be offshore.

The best and brightest will set up facilities in the Caribbean (outside the jurisdiction of the fedgov) that will serve the top 5%.

It will be like private jets vs the “human cattle car” of commercial aviation. Or Baraq Obama sending his kids to Sidwell while the peons head to DC schools.


Hey, you stole my line! B-) Seriously, I've said the same in the past. If I had the capital and Bammy is re-elected (shudder the thought, this is just a brain game for now and hope it stays that way), I'd get me a pilot's license and an old WWII Catalina PBY flying boat and fly people down from Pittsburgh to the Honduras or wherever. If I was really rich, I'd help those who could not pay. Better, yet, I'd use an old Lockheed Electra.

Some go as far as the Phillipines for good care.
11 posted on 10/30/2012 7:27:43 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: All
I fear for my parents who are 74 and 75 (Mom, Dad).

I'm engaging an Obamunist on Facebook now, all he does is call Romney names. I countered and basically said, I won't call Obama names just to keep it civil, but I asked him, "can you give me one good reason or three that Obama did anything good or why people should vote for him?" He came back with the reply that "he won't since I drink Fox news kool-aid," and still picked on Romney. I came back and said, "com'n you can do it, get those 8 cylinders going now." Just to kick start things, I gave a "good reason for Romney where businesses will grow and hire more people under Romney, Obama is just driving them away." I added, "Atlas will shrug, if I was rich, I'd leave for the Honduras and start Galt's Gulch." Maybe I laid it on too think, I think Ayn Rand is above him.

God, please, help Romney win. I'm currently looking for work, not only that, I want to stick it to him so bad and watch him call the wambulance.
12 posted on 10/30/2012 7:37:56 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: Fred

Any attempt to force physicians to accept government patients will backfire. The government would have to resort to police state tactics to force doctors to work against their will. Even if doctors were forced to accept Medicare, a doctor can think of dozens of excuses/reasons not to treat a patient. The relationship between a doctor not motivated to treat a patient and a patient wary of a doctor’s motivation would not be one grounded in trust, and the outcome will be predictably poor.
I honestly don’t think that that government won’t care because less access and fewer doctors accepting government patients is the easiest way to ration and reduce costs. The Dems don’t really care about old white people because they are not a part of their base. This plays right into the Leftist ‘complete lives system’ scheme.


13 posted on 10/30/2012 7:40:53 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: Kimberly GG
When enough disabled and seniors are unable to find a doctor who will take ‘medicare’, they’ll be screaming for the single payer solution in which all doctors will be forced to work for the government and be paid to see anyone/everyone.

That was their plan the whole time.

14 posted on 10/30/2012 7:53:42 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: grumpygresh

To quote the Democrat former governor of the once great state of Colorado, Gov. Lamb : “Old people have a duty to die!” Of course he was talking about the problems with social security solvency, but the same principle applies!
The death panels so famously named by Sarah Palin will see to it that care is rationed...it won’t be pretty.


15 posted on 10/30/2012 7:55:36 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: Kimberly GG
I think we'll start seeing doctor shortages soon after ObamaCare becomes law. ObamaCare incentives will be toxic - the system will start to fall apart. The loss of doctors will be dealt with by allowing people who aren't doctors to function as doctors. Replacements will make more mistakes - then another 'unintended consequence ... another response on and on until black market medical care become the dangerous norm.

Elections matter ...

16 posted on 10/30/2012 8:10:10 PM PDT by GOPJ ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbOuxqK2T34)
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To: Fred
Florida is in the bag.

The place to get this message out is PENNSYLVANIA, which in addition to being attacked as a coal producer, is TIED with FL as the 5th oldest state. Oh, and by the way, what state ranks just below FL and PA in median age? New Hampshire.

Spread the word, folks...

17 posted on 10/30/2012 8:10:21 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Of COURSE I'm talking about Delta House, you Twerp!)
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To: Fred

Excellent article. Forwarded to as many undecideds/ shaky people as I can think of.


18 posted on 10/30/2012 9:21:01 PM PDT by Humble Servant (Work for the most conservative one in the race, and keep up the pressure.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Do you think those Caribbean countries don’t have laws governing the practice of medicine?


19 posted on 10/30/2012 9:45:17 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: Fred

Abortion. It’s not just for the unborn anymore.


20 posted on 10/30/2012 11:50:35 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: dennisw
and don't speak or comphrend ENGLISH very well FDA Bad DRUG HOT LINE IS A JOKE all you get are machines with more buttons to push NO HUMAN involved. Well IDIOTS not all seniors have computers. And how are we to obtain batch numbers? I can tell you from the pill bottle what brand it is, and what lab, but that is all the info you get. I can't even tell you what COUNTRY it was made in, as so many of our drugs now come from out of country because of 0bamanation!
21 posted on 10/31/2012 5:32:27 AM PDT by GailA (IF U will not keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: boop

Aristocracy, government by a relatively small privileged class or by a minority consisting of those felt to be best qualified to rule.

When Congress the President and VP have Platinum pay, retirement and health care for LIFE, while voting and signing into laws making you the SLAVE to pay for it, and giving you RATIONED health care and retirement, you just became a PEON, PEASANT or SLAVE to them. TIME TO WAKE DC UP! and tell them same standards or out!

Same goes for those who commit crimes while in Congress or Senate. JAIL, FINES.


22 posted on 10/31/2012 5:35:43 AM PDT by GailA (IF U will not keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: Fred

In Wisconsin, Obamacare to Increase Individual Insurance Premiums by 30%, Says Obama Adviser

http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2012/10/29/in-wisconsin-obamacare-to-increase-individual-insurance-premiums-by-30-says-obama-adviser/

I’m shocked, SHOCKED, I tell ya!


23 posted on 10/31/2012 5:52:08 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: nascarnation

Or hospital ships in international waters off the US coast.


24 posted on 10/31/2012 1:51:58 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2
Or hospital ships in international waters off the US coast.

Reminds me of the old 1959 TV show, "Mr. Lucky" where a gambler runs a casino on a ship where he takes it to international waters to escape the US/Florida laws against gambling. That's a good idea too, you can put a helipad on the ship as well.
25 posted on 10/31/2012 2:33:45 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: Cyman
Do you think those Caribbean countries don’t have laws governing the practice of medicine?

I'm sure many of them do, so you'd have to do research first.
26 posted on 10/31/2012 2:35:40 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: GailA

The foreign MDs will be the worst and will still take Medicare. A relative tracks Medicare fraud 70% is done by foreign doctors meaning they were not born here. They figure they can always flee back home if they might end up in prison


27 posted on 11/01/2012 2:49:40 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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