Posted on 10/31/2012 4:36:53 AM PDT by tatown
President Obama has maintained a five-point lead in the crucial swing state of Ohio, according to a new Quinnipiac University/CBS News/New York Times poll of likely voters. The survey found that Mitt Romney has gained ground in Florida and Virginia, where the race is now effectively tied.
Mr. Obama now leads Romney 50 percent to 45 percent among likely voters in Ohio - exactly where the race stood on Oct. 22. His lead in Florida, however, has shrunk from nine points in September to just one
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TTIUWI !
(This Thread Is Useless Without Internals)
Where do you see +2? I see +7 in 2008 http://usconservatives.about.com/od/campaignselections/a/A-Look-At-Voter-Turnout-And-Enthusiasm.htm
Yep, completed their polling three days ago and somehow when they release the results they don’t have the demographics available yet.
They are undoubtedly all skewed toward Democrats. One thing that probably can be taken from it is that Nelson will beat Mack in FL.
One thing that is interesting is how all states report more outreach contacts from Romney than from Obama. (Though not by a large amount, and I imagine the Obama contacts are more likely to include a dragging to an early voting poll with a free pizza dangled at the end of it.)
This push poll group was Set up by these left wing media operations to cook up dem party push polls !
The former CBS /Slimes reporters who set this vile organization were huge lefties !
D+7 in 2008? I don’t think that has ever happened. Every party has had a slight advantage or its been even in every election in the past.
Even if you grant the Democrats had such a huge advantage, Obama won only 53% of the vote in 2008.
I think the disparity back then was a lot closer than the 7+ you are mentioning.
In any case, this year is nothing like 2008.
RCP averages polls, independent pollsters do a quality job and show Romney with leads between 2-6% in battleground states. Obama campaign asks for total sham poll from NYT to work the averages back their direction. Then Axelfraud goes on TV to exclaim Obama slightly ahead in all battlegrounds according to RCP. It’s a racket. Any basic statistics class will teach you that averaging good data with bad data will give you bad data.
Reality to CBS: “I got your poll hangin’.”
The link I posted says otherwise. It might be wrong, but that’s what I found with a quick search. D+7. Do you see something different. Please link.
While I definitely would have preferred to have seen movement towards Romney, at this point, I will take the status quo in their poll as an OK result.
If the Dems do turn out by 7 or 8 points higher than we do, then they deserve to win, and shame on us. I don’t think that is even remotely possible though.
With a more realistic turnout model, even the NYT data shows us winning Virginia and Florida and close to dead even in Ohio, just like everybody else.
Not a bad place to be less than one week from election day.
Yes, but if the actual turnout ends up being R+1 (like Gallup is predicting) or even D+2 or D+3, then there will be no way this argument will get any traction as these polls are based on D+7 and D+8. Which is ridiculous.
Don’t know the internals, but BS.
O is losing FL so bad many respectable polling outfits have withdrawn, but he’s up there? Nope.
Up 5 in OH? Daydreams. Same thing in VA
Nonsense
O is going to lose Ohio by 4 or more points.
WTH are you talking about? An inverter is what you're going to save the country with? lol.
We'll all get by for the near term until there gets to be about a dozen Wacos per day for 10 years. In other words, when the government turns the red states into another Iraq/Afghanistan.
Watch Dr. Zhivago if you need a refresher. The thug looters are no big deal compared to the Federal Leviathan looters who will not only take what you have but punish you for having it.
We are focusing on Romney like he's going to be able to walk in and make the fiscal seas recede like Obama did with global warming!
Nothing critical will change on Nov 7! We either start educating the facebook-kids now while we have a chance under either president, or we have them at our throats in 15 years.
Since NYT/Q had to go to these lengths (Florida D+7; Ohio D+8; Virginia D+8) to get these numbers, I regard this as great news. In NO WAY will the turnout be that pronounced in favor of the dems.
Ignorance about the U.S. Constitution is a huge problem — it’s NOT taught in schools anymore except the 1st Amend, and then incorrectly. The left likes to cherry pick parts it like, but generally despises it; thinks its antiquated. See Justice Ginsburg’s comments last summer. And she is a S.Ct Justice. But that is a whole ‘nother issue.
You are correct, on Jan 20th our country faces all those cataclysmic issues regardless of who is being sworn in. The difference is Obama will make it even worse. Romney will at least attempt to calm the tidal debt, though the left will fight mightly hard to prevent it and scream about Romney personally evicting 90 y.o. grandmas and leaving them with nothing but $5 a month to buy dog food.
BUT to even get THAT miserable shot OH matters hugely, because it is Romney’s best, easiest shot of being that person sworn in on the 20th to try and make changes. It’s the U.S’s last shot before it becomes the People’s Republic of the IBEWUAWSEIUNEATeamsters
Hotair.com picked up those internals as well. Aside from being outside the norm, the poll actually shows strong GOP enthusiasm and growing fast.
Obviously it will be a reprieve if Romney wins.
I think if we pull our heads out of these polls that it will be clear that we're already the Peoples Republic of the IBEWUAWSEIUNEATeamstersCNNMSNBCNYTETC.
While we're partying or pitying the election results, the mis-education problems of the next generation continue to dwarf even the gargantuan fiscal problems.
I believe those are larger Dem turnouts tha in any of those states in 2008. Who could possibly think that may happen?
An 8 point swing in the electorate in four years?
From D+7 in 2008 to R+1 in 2012?
If true, the ardor for O has been the fastest dissipating romance in history!
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