Skip to comments.CIA Takes Heat for Role in Libya
Posted on 11/01/2012 9:51:25 PM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
When the bodies of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans killed in Benghazi, Libya, arrived at Andrews Air Force Base after the Sept. 11 attack, they were greeted by the president, the vice president and the secretaries of state and defense. Conspicuously absent was CIA Director David Petraeus.
Officials close to Mr. Petraeus say he stayed away in an effort to conceal the agency's role in collecting intelligence and providing security in Benghazi. Two of the four men who died that day, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, were former Navy SEAL commandos who were publicly identified as State Department contract security officers, but who actually worked as Central Intelligence Agency contractors, U.S. officials say.
The U.S. effort in Benghazi was at its heart a CIA operation, according to officials briefed on the intelligence. Of the more than 30 American officials evacuated from Benghazi following the deadly assault, only seven worked for the State Department. Nearly all the rest worked for the CIA, under diplomatic cover, which was a principal purpose of the consulate, these officials said.
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what took so long, WSJ?
This link might work better:
That is the only relevant question at this point. Why they did not give the order ("fog of war", too little information, yada yada yada) or why they covered it up (what we were told, blah-blah-blah.) These are all secondary questions.
All the reasons, rationales and excuses can be given after that answer. There may even be some good ones. Some may indeed be classified. But the answer to this question is not classified. The answer to this question is immaterial to any investigation currently in progress. And the answer to this question has nothing to do with the roles played by State, CIA, or the military in setting up and conducting operations at the Consulate. The answer to this question has nothing to do with what our Ambassador -- or anyone else -- was actually doing there.
The ex-SEAL Dad is the only person asking the right question: "Who gave the order that my son had to die?"
OK - WSJ appears to give you a free pass if you Google “cia takes heat for role in libya” and click on the first link that shows up....
The question is, why were we in Libya and Egypt to begin with while ignoring, Iran, Syria, Lebanon and Turkey?
Ghadaffi had been a very good boy since 911.
Ahmadinajahd? Not so much.
WHO GAVE THE ORDER?... agreed, that is the question. Just glad to see someone other than Fox and Beck from the media looking into it. The WSJ has never been a HRC fan, so maybe there is hope.
I’m not sure why you bring up Salvador Allende who probably would not have been too popular at FR because of his leftist/socialist slant?
bump to that!
Mass murdering islamist soetoro, by action or inaction.
37 made it out because 2 gave all they had!
BHO! Any other questions?
We were in Libya because Ghadaffi had stated most emphatically that he was going to cream the people in Benghazi. Also, Tunisia next door was in revolt, and we were NOT in Egypt. Libya only had a population of about 5 million. Syria has about 25 million and is buddies with Russia. Iran has about 75 million, not quite as many as Egypt with 81 million.
Lebanon if you recall was a real tar baby. President Reagan was forced by public opinion to pull out our peacekeeping force in Lebanon after our embassy was bombed April 1983 killing 63, including about 17 Americans. Then a few months later (October?) the Marine peacekeeper’s barracks was bombed killing 241 US marines. That same day the French were bombed killing over 50 people. Also in the same period a bomb attack on our embassy in Kuwait only killed 6 people because of defective bomb material.
I suspect that Obama thought we, with allies, could help free the people of Libya at a low cost in US lives, and he was successful. Unfortunately, the politics of tribes and cities that suffered and fought is not so easy to settle. You will recall that McCain favored helping Libya too. The tribal/ethnic situation in Lebanon is just as complex in a much smaller space. T.E. Lawrence (of Arabia) in his book “Seven Pillars of Wisdom” gives an excellent picture of the fractured nature of the Lebanese population and Arabs in general.
I must say I’m disappointed with Petraeus in all this. Why did he testify to Congresss putting forth the bogus video spontaneous demonstration story when we now know that everybody was informed the day of the attack that Benghazi was an attack by militants? Will we find out the truth in all this after the election? Not likely before...
Ghadaffi was jailing Al Qaeda, Ahmadinajahd was praising them.
Bumps in the road, huh?
Yes, al Qaeda.
...and we were NOT in Egypt.
'We' aren't but 0coward's policy was in a big way and so was MoveOn.org.
And how about the Cairo embassy and Sec. State tweeting apologies all day long on Sept. 11th for the 'anti-Muhammed video?' That's not a presence in Egypt?
It's just speculation, but it fits. Think of it as a Cuban missile crisis in reverse.
We objective observers take exception to the deception charade the Leftwing scumbags are taking at the expense of the Agencies.
Not sure I am going to do much more tonight,...
Further down we have stories on Benghazi:
There was no fog of war. It is certain now that the WH and others had real time intel. They had the cameras inside and out of the facility (which have yet to be released), direct comms with those requesting assistance, and at least one drone overhead. Plus, we know as fact that the Ambassador had requested more security previously, knowing that al-Queda affiliated terrorists were making plans for further attacks after having already lobed bombs over the compound walls of our mission twice prior.
This was simply a failure of Obama and others to protect a high level American representative and his support personnel. The f*cker saw it real time and decided to go to bed for his fundraiser the next day in Las Vegas.
I've followed this more closely than the election, and after reading from those in the know, we had the resources and those willing to risk their lives, but were not given the GO. Sorry, I don't buy the excuse of international borders. Didn't stop Obama (more likely Panetta) from authorizing an incursion into Pakistan to kill bin-Laden, not to mention the numerous drone attacks in Pakistan.
An Ambassador was murdered. That is one of the worst things that can happen to a sovereign country. It's an act of war. And no, I don't care if it were a small group of al-Queda, a true leader would have ordered their rescue no matter what the risk (even Careter attemped). It will be shown that our Armed Forces were ready to go from Sicily and possibly other locations and were told to "stand down" - watch. I am sick about this whole debacle.
Still, the "cult of Obama" may give him another 4 years. THEY WANT STUFF! I'm beginning to hate my fellow Americans.
Nonsense. The Russians have nothing to do with The Disaster’s ineptitude.
I watched your Senators’s interview on Fox with Gretta a bit ago. He speaks with wisdom, as are other Congressional figures now starting to open up.
Frank Gaffney has latched onto the CIA gunrunning operation having been blown. There are multiple sources citing that such was the reason for Stevens' meeting with the Turkish envoy:
It is also of critical importance to note that last weekend, Russia completed large-scale exercises of their Strategic Nuclear Forces under the watchful command of President Vladimir Putin. These were the first such nuclear exercises conducted since the fall of the Soviet Union.
To those with discernment, it is obvious that we are at the precipice of World War III. Putin himself stated as much, noting that WW III will not start in Iran but Syria, his own red line in the sand. - Source
My point is: behind all the prevarication, stonewalling, and outright lies, these things did not "just happen." ONE PERSON made a decision. Let's not let Joe AADHD Six-Pack be distracted into thinking a clumsy, bloated, bureaucratic government couldn't get information up and down the chain of command quickly enough to respond. At some point ONE PERSON made a decision.
The first question is: WHO GAVE THE ORDER to let these men die?
Gr8. They have a scapegoat.
Obama claims Executive Privilege
My point was that the CIA has tendency to eliminate people who get in their way.
That won’t fly.
Claiming objectivity is sophistry.
There really isn't much doubt about that.
Only the POTUS had the authority to act!
0bama was notified immediately and automatically when the Benghazi consulate triggered the "Imminent Danger Notification System" alert. He did nothing.
Judge Jeanine Investigates Benghazi Gate Part 4 - 10/20/2012 video 6:53
Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer (U.S. Army ret.), former CIA Station Chief Gary Berntsen and former CIA operative Mike Baker
There are three scandals here...
Denial of requests for security were a dereliction of duty. The lies and misdirection about the "video" after the attack were fraud and malfeasance under the color of authority. The inaction during the attack was something more than that.
The failure to act during the attack is the direct equivalent of desertion IMO.
ONE man had the authority to act that night.
ONE man deserted his post!
0bama was MIA. 0bama Is A Deserter!
We're going as fast as is humanly possible ...
But it's time someone outside of FNC and Talk Radio started asking the big question.
There was no surprise about the attack. There was no 'failure of intel.' The attack was predicted in precise detail a month before it occurred. The draw down of security had to be intentional.
The failure to approve a rescue had to be intentional.
Keeping the Counterterrorism Security Group (CSG) in the dark about the attack had to be intentional.
Tweeting apologies for the 'anti-Muhammed video' beginning early that morning, repeatedly blaming all the violence at all of our embassies on the 'video' and making an apology video to air in Pakistan had to be intentional.
Stevens presence in Benghazi on 9-11 had to be intentional.
Obama. Hillary, Panetta, and Patreaus ALL have BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS!!!
Intentional as in pre-planning before 9/11. They were too quick in blaming a video. IMO, it was a set up. Sadly, we will probably never know.
Consider this: “Concerns are not for the crime itself so much as are the seriousness of the charges”?
Pinging thread and comments.
Also, thread and comments here:
GAFFNEY: Obama’s perfect storm - Libya cover-up threatens re-election
November 2, 2012
Benghazi: Cui Bono?
The Hidden Real Truth About Benghazi
This is understandable, isn't it. No clear clear mission, no clear strategy, no clear tactics. It is all is very familiar to me and my buddies.
Viet Nam 1969-1970
Very dumb of any administration to play with the CIA the way this one has.
This might turn out be one of the most amazing stories in this whole mess. Rumor on another blog stated they has 2 pistols going into that fight.
Since Mr. Patreaus is being setup to be the fall guy for this mess tells me Mr. Patreaus has the least amount of blood on his hands, the three remaining zer0, hilary, panetta are in blood up to their hairlines.