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Liberal/Conservative Divide Only Grows Uglier
Rick's Pick's newsletter ^ | Nov. 2, 2012 | Rick Ackerman

Posted on 11/02/2012 6:53:53 AM PDT by Sicvee

It would be easy for me to dismiss Obama supporters as mentally defective but for one inconvenient fact: my mother, sharp as a tack at 92, is voting for him. And so is my sister, a San Francisco attorney who is no slouch in the brains department. I’m not sure where my brother, a municipal employee, stands, but neither am I eager to find out. There is no bridging the political gap between us, and so we simply avoid discussing politics. The same goes for old friends, although newer ones are another matter. One of them walked out on our dinner together in a huff when an innocuous remark I’d made about Abe Lincoln evidently bruised his self-righteously liberal, morally perfect heart . Good riddance. It is far better friends than he that I am worried about. Will they draw the line when I let slip my support for the right to bear arms, even concealed? A few of my wife’s closest friends are unmitigated liberals, and it’s unclear how much longer we’ll be able to tiptoe around the political rough edges when we get together socially. (more at the link)

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To: Melas
I’ll bite. How can you be violent on facebook?

Ok, here is a breakdown of the conversation:

Aunt: "Gey out your vote...."

Me: "I will! To oust that baby killing, Navy SEAL killing, constitution hating usurper from Kenya from the White House!"

Friend posted: "Pro Oblunder NYT hit job on Romney and lies or something like that. I dunno, I didn't read it :)"

Me: "Yeah. Democrats NEVER LIE unless it's about illegal gun running to Mexican drug cartels or leaving an United States ambassador, one of his staff and two Navy SEALS to die.

Then I added: "How can you support THIS democrat party when it's been taken over by socialists and communists? The party of JFK and Camelot has long since gone."

Aunt: "****, the violence in your voice is exactly what I BELIEVE Romney will bring to this country ... I don't see him as a peacemaker; he will return us to war ... as to the rest of it, you watch FOX news too much! & all of this just goes to show exactly what money can do -- if all that campaign money went to our country (individuals, not corporations), we'd have no poverty and healthcare and good schools would not be an issue ... I do not trust Romney -- he has no idea of who I am; he can't relate to me and I can't relate to him ... I respect our current President and I believe that as an American, everyone should! Considering everything he has accomplished, despite all obstacles, he has held this country together thru one of the biggest crisis this country has ever had ... If we don't continue on a peaceful path such as he has put forth, these United States could easily fall apart as other large continents have done. Personally, I love and believe in the United States and what it stands for "liberty and justice" for all!"

Me: "What?! Violence in my voice?! Seriously? Wow! I guess you reported me to the government now too. Sheesh... How can I have a logic based conversation with you when all you want to do is argue emotions and attack me personally?! To be honest, I don't watch ANY of the alphabet news networks as they ALL HAVE AN AGENDA. This includes but is not limited to FOX. And after reading your response I could argue that you are just spouting democrat talking points you get from MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NPR and the list goes on so spare me you righteous indignation. I really expected better from you... :("

"Let me know when you are ready to talk facts about our country and where it is headed."

Aunt: "Tuesday will be the deciding factor ... I volunteer, get involved, stay informed, am voting for and believe in Obama ... I don't know where you get your information from, but Obama and the democratic party has not been taken over by socialists and communists. He has done a fine job, with absolutely NO help from the Republican party. Bottom line, I am voting for Obama -- what you have to say goes in one ear and out the other -- most of which I find ridiculous. Obviously, not all parties agree and that's your right ... and you have the right to vote as you feel ... and so do I ... so as to talking facts about our country and where it is headed, I'm not interested in talk, especially when it is clearly barking up the wrong tree ... good luck with dealing with whatever happens in this election. I'm keeping my mind in a very positive place and doing all I can to get Obama re-elected as well as other democrats that can help him get his bills thru congress!"

Me: "If Obama gets reelected I lose my job and so does (my wife). Thanks for making us homeless. Oh, and just so you know, I still love you and forgive your ignorance. Your false messiahs will let you down completely but you won't fully understand the damage you will have done until it's too late. Stalin had a name for sheeple like you and Andrea and it's fitting. He called people like you "Useful Idiots." Not my contempt but Stalin's. I don't expect you to understand...."

Hope that clears it up for you :-)

101 posted on 11/02/2012 2:28:42 PM PDT by bayliving (I suffer from democrat induced tourette syndrome...)
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To: SVTCobra03
No, until someone *acts* on their ideology, theology or the voices in their head only a cretin would let it interfere with family or friendship. A guest in my house or a friend or relative is quite free to espouse and argue (politely, there has never been anything worth raising one’s voice for unless it is so extreme it also merits killing in self defense) anything and everything, from hardcore atheism, Islam, Dominion ism, forced abortion, death penalty for drug use... I couldn't care less. People who are upset at the ideas or words of other people do not even deserve to be considered homo sapiens. People who cannot debate any idea calmly and rationally, be it guns, abortion, taxes or Iraq, and then proceed to have drinks and play music with the people they have argued against are lower than dogs or pigs in my view, for at least dogs and pigs have some function, but people who cannot be absolutely dispassionate about the ideas under discussion are merely wasted oxygen, be they fans of Bin Laden or Benedict.
102 posted on 11/02/2012 2:56:31 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Melas

LOL True and do you know why?
Because I came here to this country to get away from socialism, from Govt health care, , I wanted the American dream and though my house is small , it is paid off and we live frugal but not in debt.
I get so pissed off with how people couldn;t careless about the country, how America was founded etc.

Sorry if I were being agressive and defensive to you.


103 posted on 11/02/2012 3:00:30 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Melas

LOL True and do you know why?
Because I came here to this country to get away from socialism, from Govt health care, , I wanted the American dream and though my house is small , it is paid off and we live frugal but not in debt.
I get so pissed off with how people couldn;t careless about the country, how America was founded etc.

I grew up very very poor, no heat except for one hour a day, lights off, and then bounced around in foster homes where most foster parents back in England do foster care for the handouts and money of which gets spent on themeselves and not the kids .
That is why I joined the military at 16.

Sorry if I were being agressive and defensive to you.
OK Dr shrink when is out next appointment[smiles]


104 posted on 11/02/2012 3:02:57 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: bayliving

I didn’t see no violence!


105 posted on 11/02/2012 3:36:53 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: manc
Sorry if I were being agressive and defensive to you.

Hey, doesn't bother me. As long as you're happy, rock on.

106 posted on 11/02/2012 3:41:32 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas
I didn’t see no violence!

Nor did I! I was hurt and disappointed but not surprised.

How do you know you have won or are winning an argument with a liberal?

They start calling you names like "racist", "bigot", or "homophobe", or in my case, "violent."

107 posted on 11/02/2012 3:57:57 PM PDT by bayliving (I suffer from democrat induced tourette syndrome...)
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To: Melas

I agree that he wasn’t conservative or traditional in his behavior. At the time, anti-communism and what we would today call paleoconservatism were not solely the province of traditionalists. Most of Hollywood and the the press were conservative. The current left/right battle lines were drawn in the late 60s.


108 posted on 11/02/2012 4:55:13 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: manc

Let’s just say......as a Southerner, I MUST say......you were far, far nicer than I would have been.

I’d have drawn a crowd with what I’d have said to that black bitch.


109 posted on 11/02/2012 6:10:32 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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