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Gas Lines are Not Sandy’s Fault
LFB.org ^ | 11/3/2012 | Jeffrey Tucker

Posted on 11/03/2012 11:31:27 AM PDT by daniel885

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1 posted on 11/03/2012 11:31:35 AM PDT by daniel885
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It may make economic sense, but if you think anyone is going to allow gas stations to charge, say, $15 a gallon to people during a natural disaster, you’re crazy. The mindset of most people is to be charitable to people who are suffering in a natural disaster, donating food, clothing, shelter, etc. And the government supplying disaster relief is probably considered even by most conservatives to be a valid role for them to play, just like enforcing the laws and having a military.

Bottom line is the gas shortage must be related to a localized supply problem, since supplies are abundant in states right next door like Pennsylvania. The government should have a plan to get gas to the stations or citizens. Even if prices were allowed to be hiked, there would still be people unable to get gas, because they couldn’t afford it.


2 posted on 11/03/2012 11:41:45 AM PDT by JediJones (Vote NO on Proposition Zero! Tuesday, November 6th!)
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To: daniel885
Gas lines were about the only thing that Carter had that Boama did not have.
3 posted on 11/03/2012 11:48:03 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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If the market price rises to $15 per gallon, then let it. That will send a signal into the market place to producers to divert gas into that region (even if it’s a higher expense and trouble to do so). Putting price controls in effect has the exact opposite effect and means that there will worsen the supply problem.

More on this from the ever-bright economist Walter E. Williams (who sometimes fills in for Rush Limbaugh) http://rossputin.com/blog/index.php/economics_of_prices_by_walter_e_williams


4 posted on 11/03/2012 11:51:11 AM PDT by daniel885
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To: JediJones

“The government should have a plan to get gas to the stations or citizens. Even if prices were allowed to be hiked, there would still be people unable to get gas, because they couldn’t afford it.”

Get government out of the way. The free market can handle it. As conservatives, we need to have more faith in the market than that.


5 posted on 11/03/2012 11:52:37 AM PDT by daniel885
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New Jersy women will be crying for ironing board cleaners and vacuum cleaner bags for Christmas


6 posted on 11/03/2012 11:53:58 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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The article in picture form: http://lfb.org/files/2012/11/525613_10101479423879489_1834399846_n.jpg


7 posted on 11/03/2012 11:54:09 AM PDT by daniel885
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Well, in New Jersey we have Obama gas lines! Just like Carter. And at the same Gas stations as in 1979!


8 posted on 11/03/2012 11:57:55 AM PDT by njmaugbill
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History repeats itself so I think Boama will be gone also.
9 posted on 11/03/2012 12:03:30 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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he government supplying disaster relief is probably considered even by most conservatives to be a valid role for them to play,

I have not yet found that provision in my copy of the Constitution, nor the BOR.

I do believe that we are a CHARITABLE nation, and the proper response should be from the Church! JMHO...

Donate to the Salvation Army. They will have food and water long before the Gum't gets there, and not just donuts and coffee!

Donate to the BEST responders...


DOING THEIR MOST...

10 posted on 11/03/2012 12:03:54 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("Mitt Romney couldn't keep up with lies and spin of Barack Obama" - Sarah Palin 10/24)
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I think the author misses a few important points.

The problem here in New Jersey is that we're in this bizarre "Twilight Zone" -- partly an ongoing disaster (especially for people who have no power and are facing the first cold spell of the season next week), part disaster recovery, and yet fully functional in other respects. So we have at least half the population going about their lives as if there is nothing wrong, which means their consumption patterns for things like food and fuel are back to where they were before the storm. Yet the supply chains that provide some of these things aren't likely to be back to normal for days -- if not longer.

Ironically, I live within a 1/2-mile walk of two grocery stores, three convenience stores, and about two dozen restaurants. Every one of them is up and running, and doing great business. Trucks have been making their normal deliveries to these places for days.

11 posted on 11/03/2012 12:12:02 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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Having said that, I think it’s also worth noting that with limits on the prices gas station owners can charge, there’s also the possibility that many of them simply aren’t going to make any heroic efforts to get their businesses open while things are still in a state of flux here.


12 posted on 11/03/2012 12:14:20 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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Not Sandy’s fault? Does Tucker mean there are miles long lines normally? A three or four wait happens always?


13 posted on 11/03/2012 12:15:59 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Many gas stations are owned my middle easterners and some care less about gouging Americans.


14 posted on 11/03/2012 12:16:29 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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Get government out of the way. The free market can handle it.

The only way a free market can/will handle a $15 spike in gas prices without govt. intervention is thru threat of force. After the first station owner is murdered, the rest will get the message......Yea, that's a sound plan.

You're talking about natural market forces at work, what's happening there is not natural. It's an emergency life and death environment that was created by an act of nature. Without expected govt. intervention (yea, I'm a conservative who expects govt. intervention in this case) that area will quickly turn into a post apocalyptic battle ground...the very scenario "preppers" plan for.

15 posted on 11/03/2012 12:29:35 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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Let gas prices go to $15 per gallon and you would have private tankers lined up at the NJ border to get in and sell it immediately.

Want to solve the problem? Allow human nature to work freely.


16 posted on 11/03/2012 12:57:07 PM PDT by PGR88
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Gouge and people will remember, and bend over backwards to screw you back. That is a part of the free market that this article misses.

I seem to recall reading here on FR after one of the Gulf Coast hurricanes, that a gas station was selling water at super inflated prices. After the hurricane and when things had calmed down, people remembered and NEVER shopped there again. The store was shuttered within a month.


17 posted on 11/03/2012 1:01:59 PM PDT by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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To: PGR88

bump


18 posted on 11/03/2012 1:11:38 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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I wouldn’t mind FEMA so much if it were just holding a warehouse full of MRE’s and generators (to lease to gas stations after a disaster). If that was all FEMA was maybe it would be more efficient. They have to ORDER MRE’s 4 days after a hurricane? Seriously?


19 posted on 11/03/2012 1:14:35 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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Let gas prices go to $15 per gallon and you would have private tankers lined up at the NJ border to get in and sell it immediately.

Exactly. When a trailer load of petrol represents a six figure profit suppliers will be crawling over each other to find a way to fill the demand.

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Can it be that fairly intelligent reporters and politicians are truly that stupid when it comes to basic economics?

Yes. Plenty of folks here, too.

20 posted on 11/03/2012 1:25:11 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Soebarkah Soetoro)
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