Obama Revealed More Than His Birth Certificate Last Year

American Thinker ^ | 11/4/12 | Ronald Jay Polland

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When President Obama released his long-form Certificate of Live Birth on Apr. 27, 2011, (Picture 1), everyone in the press and the public had forgotten about the other birth certificate he released in 2008: the short-form Certification of Live Birth that his campaign staff posted on its website (Picture 2).

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Most likely it’s government paid attorneys “protecting” the president and the constitution.

Tax dollars are not a gift, they are his by right of conquest.

[Yaelle]

Whoa, butter. I didn’t know about that commenter nor about the potential murders to shut up Clinton. I learn more from you than from anyone else on this issue.

I still believe in occams’s razor. Barack Obama was first known to have been seen as a newborn in Seattle, with a Stanley anne who didn’t know even how to change a diaper. This sounds like she gave birth in an unwed mothers home in Canada like any of her past Seattle schoolmates in high school would have done if they’d gotten “in trouble.” She was meant to give up the black baby for adoption. But then after birth she must have asked for him back and kept him.

Little did she and her parents know that when the father is not American, the mother had to have spent 5 years after age 15 or some such in the USA in order to confer her citizenship on the child. She had him at barely 18 so she could not.

Little Barack was put on his moms passport for the trip to Indonesia, and there he was eligible for an Indonesian passport, his only until the us senate gave him his official one.

I SAW THAT LITTLE PIECE OF VIDEO here on FR where Keyes is debating him for senate and he accuses Obama of not even being a citizen, and Obama says something like “We are talking about the senate here, not the presidency.”

He’s the embodiment of the Dream Act.

[Sherman Logan]

I seek the truth, no matter where it leads.

Fair enough.

But how is the identity of Obama's bio-dad relevant to his eligibility?

I believe that the law in all 50 states presently recognizes the legal father as not necessarily being the same person as the bio-dad.

Somehow it reminds me of claims that Charles VII wasn't "really" the son of Charles VI, and so had no claim to the French throne. (Given what we know of his mother's morals, this is entirely possible.)

But in America we have no idea that rank is hereditary, and so I just fail to see how any of your admirably hard work is relevant.

[PraiseTheLord]

” In the article it states that Obama has spent $2 million to keep his records hidden. Obama doesn’t have $2 million to spend on that, so who is paying?

Did he record it as a “gift” on his income tax? “

Someone on FR posted that lawyers investigating that had determined that by now ‘he’ has already spent $12 million on the coverup.

Soros’ pit is bottomless. Any amount for his program. And 0 is a bought-and-paid-for clown/lacky.

[Candor7]

If the entirety of the general public could read Polarik’s article in this thread, hell, Obama would be shown the door at the ballot box.

This is not over by a long shot. Wait until after Obama leaves office, and then watch all the shite come down.

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Bio-dad? I didn’t ask who his biological father is, I ask who is his father of actual legal record?

Were both his legal parents American citizens at the time of his birth? Was he born on American soil?

I can’t honestly say I know the answer to either question.

I seek the truth.

What do you seek?

[Candor7]

I think there is little doubt they should certify legitimate eligibility, but AFAIK no state actually gives any entity involved in the process the power to do so>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
In all states, that duty is left to the executive officers of the political party of the candidate in question.They are bound to follow Article II of the constitution but there is no other statute compelling them to do so.In these modern times, it is rare, but these executive officers are directly bound by Article II.

[Candor7]

Well then, it looks like Obama can be indicted , on Jan. 21st, 2013.

[butterdezillion]

Unless politics trumps the rule of law.And that is my fear.

[Fred Nerks]

It looks to me like...(and I don’t have a handle on it like butter has, bless her...) if there are no penalties for making an untrue or outright false declaration, there’s no impediment to doing so.
The signature is placed on the document purely on the basis of the honour of the signatory.
And in the absence of a penalty, recource to a false declaration in this instance should be sought in the Constitiution. Is that right?
Where the requirement for legibility is somewhat loosley defined, if at all, because ‘natural born citizen’ is able to be interpreted, and different sides of the political spectrum find it convenient to interprete this situation to their own advantage.
And his sponsors must have been perfectly aware of the loophole.
That’s why DREAMS was written. To give him a family and a background.
Unlike us, the people who foisted him onto the public, didn’t wait to find all this out the hard way (as butter did) THEY KNEW ABOUT THE LOOPHOLE BEFOREHAND.
It’s too late is it, to require the identity of a candidate to be firmly established before he or she is able to stand for elected office?

Because it seems to me (I’m an Australian) it’s not only his place and date of birth no one knows, what is also missing is any knowledge of who both his parents were/are.

Look at it this way. The question wouldn’t apply to Romney because you would easily be able to establish where and when he attended schools or college. There would be photographs of him with his parents and extended family, I daresay if one asked for it, he could show you photographs of himself with his mother and grandmother when he was a baby. Unlike zero, whose family album doesn’t start until he’s over two years of age.
In short, all the normal things one would expect to find OF A KNOWN INDENTITY, Mitt Romney would be able to show you.
ALL OF WHICH ARE MISSING FROM THE ZERO BACKGROUND.

I’ll keep repeating myself although it makes a lot of freepers angry and has caused my comments to be very unwelcome. The primary question shouldn’t ever have been if he is/was eligible. It was always an empty question WHILE NO ONE KNOWS WHO HIS PARENTS ARE/WERE OF WHERE HE CAME FROM.

With nothing more than a forged birth certificate, you don’t know what his name was at birth.

[butterdezillion]

Exactly. We know NOTHING about who this guy is. He could be anybody, from anywhere, born to anybody. We’ve seen no official, legal-quality documentation of ANYTHING. The only thing we really know is that it’s not normal for somebody who supposedly had a routine hospital birth in the United States of America in 1961 to have no legal-quality documentation of that birth. The non-validity of the record is itself basically proof that the claims on it cannot be true.

And we’ve been shown no legal-quality evidence of any other legal birth facts either. So we have nowhere to even begin - and never will until we are allowed to dig into all the records and figure out the paper trail on this guy’s life.

[Candor7]

Thats a fact Fred. It really should minimaize all the issues. In fact Obama is a person who is a cypher. We know nothing of his family background, its been created for propaganda purposes.Since he has worked with great rigor and resource to successfully mask himself, we do not have a president in Obama. We have a caricature of a president.That's tolerable for most Americans on the left, until people start dying because of it, like they have in Benghazi.

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.examiner.com/video/obama-says-he-s-just-a-prop-and-creates-a-buzz-video

I can’t comment. I ran out of words. He leaves me speechless.

[visually_augmented]

This is merely a ploy that Obama will use when it comes time to be convicted for his lies and deceit. He can just say that it’s the voters that are really responsible for his actions....

[edge919]

Responding to a later request by KS SOS Chris Kobach, the HDOH similarly confirmed that the claims on the WH BC image “match” the original record but would NOT certify that the information contained in the WH image is “identical to” the information in the original record - so whatever they mean by “match”, it is NOT “identical to”.

The problem with the LoV from Hawaii (as well as all of Obama's alleged birth certificates) is that none of them (Kansas, Arizona or Mississippi) conform with the Federal Rules of Evidence on self-authenticating evidence that says a document must be certified as "CORRECT."

(4) Certified Copies of Public Records. A copy of an official record — or a copy of a document that was recorded or filed in a public office as authorized by law — if the copy is certified as correct by:

(A) the custodian or another person authorized to make the certification;

I believe Kobach had asked Hawaii for a verification that would have conformed, but instead Hawaii defaulted to the claim that they had a certificate with information that matches Obama's PDF. That's not the same thing as saying the certificate is a correct copy. The admissability of such a LoV could be challenged for failing to meet the Federal standard.

The election, depending on applicable state laws, presents a new opportunity for similar challenges to be filed. It can't be challenged in Kansas again because Obama won't win that state, but it could certainly be challenged in any state where he wins that has similar objection laws.

[Candor7]

Thanks for the video reference Fred. It proves that we are up to speed and understand Obama’s mask perfectly. He is the figurehead of a movement meant to destabilize the West, and he has very wealthy , dangerous Islamofascist backers.(Too bad that was not a talking point of the Romney Campaign.)

All we can do is pray that America gets it right today. If not, to save ourselves it will have to be the modern equivalent of patriotic powder and ball that will be brought to bear to save our nation, as civil society cracks
and the monsters of the left are engaged in the streets.

Our military is on the brink of revolt for the first time in our nations history. The presidential candidate endorsement record of our generals are the proof of this.At some point they will move to defend and support the constitution, if Obama and his fascists are not de-elected. Accurately predicting what shape that would take is not possible at this point.

I hope the patriotic vote turn out today literally fries these leftist psychopomps.We await the results which will start coming in at 6 pm Eastern Standard Time.