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New storm bears down on Sandy-battered NYC, NJ
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 11/7/12 | Colleen Long

Posted on 11/07/2012 12:22:18 PM PST by Kartographer

A nor'easter blustered into New York and Jersey on Wednesday, threatening to swamp homes all over again, plunge neighborhoods back into darkness and inflict more misery on tens of thousands of people still reeling from Superstorm Sandy.

Under ordinary circumstances, a storm of this sort wouldn't be a big deal, but large swaths of the landscape were still an open wound, with many of Sandy's victims still mucking out their homes and cars.

Thousands of people in low-lying neighborhoods staggered by the superstorm just over a week ago were warned to clear out, with authorities saying rain, wet snow and 60 mph gusts in the evening could set back the cleanup, topple trees wrenched loose by Sandy, and erase some of the hard-won progress made in restoring electricity to millions of customers.

"I am waiting for the locusts and pestilence next," New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said. "We may take a setback in the next 24 hours."

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: christie; hurricanesandy; nj2012; nyc
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To: Kartographer

Obama will save them!


61 posted on 11/07/2012 2:05:45 PM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: dead

More than 3.5 million people in NY and NJ voted for Romney yesterday.

That’s more than red states Arizona, Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas and Alaska combined.


How long have you been in that blue paradise? How much did you help the conservative movement? Did you work a phone bank? Did you go door to door? We have our own problems to deal with here. Like trying to produce the energy that those states need. From my point of view your 3.5 million did not do an effective job of teaching / coaching your neighbors to do the right thing.


62 posted on 11/07/2012 2:06:33 PM PST by fudimo
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To: Kartographer; JRandomFreeper
I have seen destruction on our Texas coast from hurricanes. I have heard the numbers of persons whose bodies were never found because they were washed out to sea.

Water is stronger than any human. No person should live close to a major body of water. Risking your life to do that can kill you. If you aren't killed, you will likely lose everything you have.

I was a real estate broker at one time and was going to show a person a house in a swell neighborhood with water on two sides of the neighborhood. The lady running the company, who had a house in that neighborhood, told me not to tell the possible buyer that those houses are in the flood zone unless the buyer asked.

I said I couldn't do that. She said that is what insurance is for. I told the buyer it was in the flood zone. She bought a house not in that area.

So, a hurricane comes and the company owner's house flooded. She came totally unglued, was a basket case. I had no sympathy for her - she had insurance so what was her problem? You see, it was okay if she sold a house in there and it flooded, but it was a disaster if hers flooded.

Water is pretty and fun, but it is very dangerous. The people in the northeast near the water who lost everything or have heavily damaged houses, should leave there for good.

63 posted on 11/07/2012 2:35:36 PM PST by Marcella (“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic)
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To: Kartographer; JRandomFreeper
I have seen destruction on our Texas coast from hurricanes. I have heard the numbers of persons whose bodies were never found because they were washed out to sea.

Water is stronger than any human. No person should live close to a major body of water. Risking your life to do that can kill you. If you aren't killed, you will likely lose everything you have.

I was a real estate broker at one time and was going to show a person a house in a swell neighborhood with water on two sides of the neighborhood. The lady running the company, who had a house in that neighborhood, told me not to tell the possible buyer that those houses are in the flood zone unless the buyer asked.

I said I couldn't do that. She said that is what insurance is for. I told the buyer it was in the flood zone. She bought a house not in that area.

So, a hurricane comes and the company owner's house flooded. She came totally unglued, was a basket case. I had no sympathy for her - she had insurance so what was her problem? You see, it was okay if she sold a house in there and it flooded, but it was a disaster if hers flooded.

Water is pretty and fun, but it is very dangerous. The people in the northeast near the water who lost everything or have heavily damaged houses, should leave there for good.

64 posted on 11/07/2012 2:37:34 PM PST by Marcella (“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic)
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To: History Repeats
Then don’t start up threads that will bring out such feelings. I know, as you obviously do, that many here are hoping that those in NY and NJ blow the hell out to sea.

But it’s good you told me not to say that. Thanks for the censorship.

Well said!

65 posted on 11/07/2012 2:45:45 PM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking"..J.C. Watts)
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To: Marcella
The universe is a hostile place.

There is no location on this planet that doesn't have SOME way to kill you, quickly or slowly.

Our job as sentients is to anticipate the threats and prepare for them, or avoid them.

/johnny

66 posted on 11/07/2012 3:12:25 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Einherjar
#1 Bury the dead.........pray for their salvation
#2 Treat the wounded.....pray for their recovery
#3 Do not rebuild anything that was destroyed by the storm/storms, roads built on sand, houses , etc , move out of harms way, why invite disaster and suffering every 100 years or so.

There's a relevant verse in the Bible: "Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash."

Both in literal terms and in figurative terms, I insist on building my house on the rock. As much as I would enjoy an ocean view from some dune on the coast, I could not in good conscience demand that the taxpayers subsidize my risky choices. My house is on a hill - and on a foundation of actual rock. Similarly, my life is guided by scripture. it should not surprise anyone that not only is God always right on what is good, but his guidance is always best for us.

67 posted on 11/07/2012 3:12:48 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Fledermaus

Oh come on! That one fly over sealed your vote! Now let it seal your fate, dumb a@#!


68 posted on 11/07/2012 4:04:23 PM PST by DBG2769
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To: GreenHornet

Oh don’t forget Springsteen who he cried over.... Yes enjoy your cold snap... my blankets will go to deserveing people.


69 posted on 11/07/2012 4:04:41 PM PST by DBG2769
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To: Kartographer

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQsgP1z5iBervU_Yo7dt-WXPUvaxoMgkd&feature=view_all


70 posted on 11/07/2012 4:05:49 PM PST by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Einherjar
move out of harms way, why invite disaster and suffering every 100 years or so.

Where is this "out of harms way" location of which you speak?

I don't live where hurricanes walk, but I do have the occasional tornado drop by for a visit and then there are the ice storms and blizzards that are frequent guests at my home.

I have yet to find a place on this earth no natural disaster has ever struck.

Once every hundred years? That is pretty good.

71 posted on 11/07/2012 4:45:48 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: Kartographer

Some local talk show hosts here had t-shirts made up a couple years ago that said “Sutpid should hurt!”.

Unfortunately some people refuse to put cause and effect together.


72 posted on 11/07/2012 6:16:18 PM PST by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Hugin

Oops, should read “Stupid should hurt!”. However it’s pretty funny with the typo.


73 posted on 11/07/2012 6:18:30 PM PST by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Kartographer
This is why those who complain the preppers over do it by having more than just a few days of preps are wrong! Often disasters are often followed by troubles a Hurricane can past and then a few days later a levee fails. You make it through a earthquake and then a few days later a major bridge collapse cutting off help and supplies.

I've had to go for more than a week without power several times, in the dead of winter with LOTS of snow on the ground, completely housebound for most of that time. No way to get out for supplies. Made it through easily.

In my view situations like that are something everyone should be able to handle as a matter of course. If you can't handle at LEAST that much, then you really need to get with it!

It's going to happen again. We don't know what the specific event will be, or when. But we can handle being on our own for a lot more than a week, and we will come through it just fine.

Serious prepping is about more than that. Most people who consider themselves preppers are getting ready for a major SHTF event.

Some laugh at ignorant rubes like me who are obviously too simple to realize that nothing really bad can happen anymore. Some even hate us. In my view, many of the haters are angry because they sense something is coming too. But they have chosen to do nothing and do not wish to be reminded of it.

Time will tell. If I wasted a few bucks, so what. No one was hurt. But if TSHF it was money well spent.

74 posted on 11/07/2012 7:11:01 PM PST by EternalHope (Politicians will always let you down. -- Sarah Palin)
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To: EternalHope
Even the most serious prepper can not always remain housebound.


75 posted on 11/07/2012 9:36:16 PM PST by Alice in Wonderland
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To: who knows what evil?

Let’s name the storms after famous Socialists. The storms will cause almost as much destruction as they did.


76 posted on 11/08/2012 4:38:43 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Kartographer

I’m on Long Island and just got my power back last night, after 10 days without.

We did fine, BTW, without it, although the kids were a bit bored by the end of the day. The hardest thing was adjusting our sense of time. After cooking dinner on the open fire of the fireplace, playing a few hands of blackjack and a round of Trivial Pursuit or Pictionary, we’d look at each other and say, “What time is it?” Thinking it was about 9 or 10 o’clock, we’d be surprised to find that it was only 7:15!

I’ve never slept so much in my whole life! LOL

As I look back, I can say that I did a Good Thing when I insisted on only buying a house that had a wood-burning fireplace. I did another Good Thing when I installed a swing-arm hinge in said fireplace and bought a good, heavy dutch oven to hang from it. (Hubby laughed at me when I installed it years ago; He laughs no more. LOL)

So here I sit, watching the snow whip by me in heavy winds, and though we’d still be OK, it is now cold enough for me to hope we don’t lose power again. Right now there is about...oh...5 inches on the ground, but it is heavy snow, and I can see the branches of the trees sagging from the weight. PLEASE don’t let anything fall onto wires...PLEASE!

Regards,


77 posted on 11/08/2012 4:48:17 AM PST by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: petitfour

THAT is the worst part about living on Long Island (besides it being too close to NYC): It is difficult or impossible to get the hell OFF of it if you have to.

Right now my biggest worry is the lack of gasoline. Hubby’s tank is full, but I only have 3/4 of a tank. All last week, we walked or rode bikes to find whatever supplies we could so we are not faced with totally empty tanks, but still...I’m surprised this gas thing is still going on at this point. Most places do have power now, but almost all gas stations are without gas. It’s really disconcerting to not be able to fill up and feel like you could escape if you needed to.

Regards,


78 posted on 11/08/2012 4:53:48 AM PST by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: Old Sarge; Kartographer; 5thGenTexan; who knows what evil?; KittenClaws; Windcatcher
Four years of socialism have only left them crying out to Fedzilla for more.

I listen to talk radio most of the day starting with the MESS (Mark, Ed and SGT Sam) on KLBJ in Austin. SGT Sam is a retired Austin PD officer, has a compound in Marble Falls and drives over 60 miles each way to work. He is to the right of Rush, and I agree with him almost 100%.

This is one thing he has said over years. The people on the gov teat will always vote themselves a raise by voting for the dims who are very generous with other peoples' money by giving them more freebies. If anyone is on a gov giveaway program, they should not be allowed to vote and submit to drug tests.

79 posted on 11/08/2012 5:11:37 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

80 posted on 11/08/2012 5:30:10 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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