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Playing It Safe is Always Dangerous, which GOP Elites Never Learn
Tea Party Tribune ^ | November 7, 2012 | Jonathon Moseley

Posted on 11/07/2012 2:27:12 PM PST by Moseley

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1 posted on 11/07/2012 2:27:20 PM PST by Moseley
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All I can say is this: at this point I say, “let the electorate get what they have been asking for, honestly, a crashed, ruined nation will be there, and there will be plenty of people willing to help that just won’t be like them and won’t have to. Charity is there, and the word of God too. Politics has never been the great bastion for the word of God, never will be.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 2:34:15 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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Mitt Romney, the anti-Reagan.

“I think Bill Weld comes as close as anyone,” Romney said when asked whom in his party he aligned with.

“I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush,”

“I’m not a partisan politician. My hope is that, after this election, it will be the moderates of both parties who will control the Senate, not the Jesse Helmses.”


3 posted on 11/07/2012 2:35:58 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney not only reelected Obama, he lost the Senate,ruined the "down ticket", West, Mia Love, Brown.)
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To: Moseley

“RINO’s believe in trying to manipulate and out-smart the voters rather than talking to them honestly, answering their questions and concerns, and persuading them. “

They can’t explain and defend principles that they don’t really believe in.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 2:38:50 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: ansel12

Republicans always lose when they try to be all things to all people. This time the Republicans believed that they could appeal to union members, at least in WA State and that if they supported the unions, the unions would support them. I just laughed at them and gave up because the Republicans seemed to have abandoned their core values. You cannot support public sector unions and a smaller budget at the same time.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 2:41:36 PM PST by Eva
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To: ansel12

“Mitt Romney, the anti-Reagan.”

But Reagan used to be a Democrat and liberal on some issues when he was GOP governor of California.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 2:42:43 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Moseley
The GOP playing not to loose once again.

To win, you play to win. Ronald Reagan explained it best. " We win, you loose. "

8 posted on 11/07/2012 2:43:29 PM PST by oyez (I think we are done here.)
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We can pass the blame all day long but in the end it is nobody except the people and i think they will pay dearly for getting what they wanted.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 2:45:57 PM PST by ravenwolf
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To: ari-freedom

The only Fox News pundit that seemed upset last night was Sarah Palin. The others all seemed jovial enough.

The problem with Palin is we need somebody further to the right to move the middle to the right.

We need to demand:

1. Immigration moritorium
2. End to student visas
3. Abolition of the Departments of Energy and Education
4. No voting rights for welfare/food stamp recipients
5. America must have the top military in the world
6. A budget balanced with extra cushion to reduce the national debt by one-half of one percent per year
7. Speak out for the persecuted Christians worldwide
8. Fierce defense of the 1st and 2nd Amendments


10 posted on 11/07/2012 2:48:09 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: ari-freedom

Forget it. The GOP seems more interested in being the bedroom police than focusing on what is in effect a knife at the throat of the nation. The GOP is doomed, because many clowns here feel they didn’t push the social conservative angle ENOUGH??!?!?!?! Can you actually believe that?

Sad.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 2:48:31 PM PST by SengirV
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Yea, I’ve seen a lot of football games and boxing matches.

Romney had him on the ropes after the first debate, and they panicked. They were scared to death of a “sympathy factor” if Romney kept on him, especially in the last debate.

...so they attempted to coast to victory.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 2:53:52 PM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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Forget it. The GOP seems more interested in being the bedroom police than focusing on what is in effect a knife at the throat of the nation

That is a fantasy of the anti-conservatives, and you know there is not a shred of truth to it.
13 posted on 11/07/2012 2:56:22 PM PST by Moseley (http://www.curesocialism.com)
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It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.

If Romney had played up the "who am I" family guy stuff and he still lost, you'd say he lost because that stuff distracted from his message on the issues. Voters would say, "So he's a nice guy, but why should I vote for him?"

Romney's business background cut both ways, helping and hurting him. He could have gotten deeper into how a business background would help him with the economy, but people who didn't grasp that already probably wouldn't be swayed by hammering away at that theme.

The results, though, are pretty clear. A Reaganesque "message" campaign this year wouldn't have done any better. The country's changed too much. Even if it would have worked, none of the candidates this year were Ronald Reagan.

14 posted on 11/07/2012 2:56:50 PM PST by x
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My recollection is that Mitt was not at all interested in social conservatism, and he is the most socially liberal candidate in GOP history, he renewed his support of homosexualizing the military and the Boy Scouts, and he rejected the pro-life party platform and returned to his “health” of the mother abortion position, and he isn’t even a Christian.

So what is your complaint? There was no social conservatism in his campaign, he was the whiz kid, economics giant from corporate.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 3:01:08 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney not only reelected Obama, he lost the Senate,ruined the "down ticket", West, Mia Love, Brown.)
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Bedroom police??? Like objecting to faggot couples adopting healthy children while normal coulples wait in line?

Yes, I don’t want to live in such a perverted country that we are quickly becoming.

Shouldn’t you be over on the Log Cabin/NAMBLA site?


16 posted on 11/07/2012 3:01:57 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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I said throughout the campaign that the strategy would probably fail - and if Willard won, he'd have no mandate. I called it a Dewey Stragegy. Here's a description from Wikipedia...

Republicans figured that all they had to do to win was to avoid making any major mistakes, and as such Dewey did not take any risks. He spoke in platitudes, trying to transcend politics. Speech after speech was filled with empty statements of the obvious, such as the famous quote: "You know that your future is still ahead of you." An editorial in the Louisville Courier-Journal summed it up:

No presidential candidate in the future will be so inept that four of his major speeches can be boiled down to these historic four sentences: Agriculture is important. Our rivers are full of fish. You cannot have freedom without liberty. Our future lies ahead.[17]

Part of the reason Dewey ran such a cautious, vague campaign was his experience as a presidential candidate in 1944. In that election Dewey felt that he had allowed Roosevelt to draw him into a partisan, verbal "mudslinging" match, and he believed that this had cost him votes. As such, Dewey was convinced in 1948 to appear as non-partisan as possible, and to emphasize the positive aspects of his campaign while ignoring his opponent. This strategy proved to be a major mistake, as it allowed Truman to repeatedly criticize and ridicule Dewey, while Dewey never answered any of Truman's criticisms.[18] Perhaps alone among all of Dewey's advisers, his 1944 campaign chairman, Edwin Jaeckle, admonished him to be aggressive on the campaign trail, advice Dewey rejected.

17 posted on 11/07/2012 3:06:57 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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If Romney had played up the "who am I" family guy stuff and he still lost, you'd say he lost because that stuff distracted from his message on the issues. Voters would say, "So he's a nice guy, but why should I vote for him?"

A well run campaign spaces this over a timetable. Early in a campaign, introducing the candidate opens the campaign. Then the campaign shifts over into issues. Then into attacking the opponent. Then it goes back to positive messages just before election day.
18 posted on 11/07/2012 3:10:36 PM PST by Moseley (http://www.curesocialism.com)
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"You know that your future is still ahead of you." Classic!!! My favorite is Calvin Coolidge's "When more and more people are thrown out of work unemployment results." Liberty Ladies, Cropped and Reduced Liberty Ladies
19 posted on 11/07/2012 3:14:48 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: BobL
Romney had him on the ropes after the first debate, and they panicked. They were scared to death of a “sympathy factor” if Romney kept on him, especially in the last debate.

...so they attempted to coast to victory.

I had the same feeling. To use another game analogy, in the last debate, why didn't he play his ace of spades, Benghazi?

20 posted on 11/07/2012 3:44:52 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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