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This would explain a few things.
1 posted on 11/08/2012 10:31:01 PM PST by stillonaroll
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Any Freepers have first hand experience with the app?


2 posted on 11/08/2012 10:35:08 PM PST by MrShoop
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Holy Crap!! EPIC FAIL!!!!! So sad!!!!


3 posted on 11/08/2012 10:38:38 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (Soon everything in America will be "free", except it's people.)
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GOP elites vs. tea party

Bitter internal fighting cost too much money, time and the election.


4 posted on 11/08/2012 10:40:58 PM PST by granada
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To: jeffo; BCR #226; Twotone; Dinah Lord; Brandonmark; jeeperz; No Socialist; 1010RD; 95Theses; ...
Y’all had posted on another thread about Orca. Any comments on this Breitbart article?
5 posted on 11/08/2012 10:43:46 PM PST by stillonaroll
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Having experienced computer sabotage every time I have something critical I’m working on - and seeing the same thing with multiple others who have also worked on critical eligibility issues - I question where the problems came from. I know nothing about this particular situation but I can smell the same crap that I’ve experienced, from a mile away. If it acted like it had been hacked, a logical question is whether it HAD been hacked.

When thugs run the NSA, DHS, DOD, and all the czar-ships that control every aspect of life, nothing is impossible to them. Nothing. The sooner everybody realizes that, the better.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 10:45:27 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: stillonaroll

I could definitely see a conspiracy theory here, where liberals get hired to work on the program, and intentionally bug it up.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 10:46:42 PM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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I’ll never forget in 2008, when the teleprompter at the Republican convention “failed” just as Sarah was starting to give her speech.

Winds up that the Republicans had hired a FLAMING LIBERAL to operate the device. Republican leaders seem to think that none of the “little people” have political thoughts and could sabotage their efforts. They just cannot comprehend that. Remember one of Bush’s top guys for debate prep, likewise, we working both sides...and Kerry’s (I think) people knew EVERYTHING that Bush had done to prepare.

When the Republicans hire people, their first question should be to ask them what party they support. The second question should be for them to PROVE it. Then hit them up with a few questions that only Republicans could understand, such as “What is an amortization schedule”?

There are ways to screen, but you MUST do that, when you give people that much power over your effort - you just don’t hand the keys to some bearded dope smoker with a Grateful Dead shirt and expect him to be on your side.

(by the way, Sarah did just fine without the teleprompter)


8 posted on 11/08/2012 10:48:47 PM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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Smells like sabotage. Or the GOP-e types in the campaign telling Tea Party volunteers “take a hike, we know better”.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 10:48:47 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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Here is a case where there needs to be some serious finger pointing. This election was no different than any other, you must identify your voters and get them out to vote. This is Politics 101, every successful campaign must have a GOTV program. This time ORCA was all hype and chance rather than proven and tested, so it was either incompetence or sabotage and ORCA was a major contributing factor in the failure of this election!


10 posted on 11/08/2012 10:53:26 PM PST by Brandonmark (OWCM is The new American Minority!)
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The program is all good and fine.

Did the Republicans have a back-up that used cell phones, with pencils and paper? Did it EVER occur to them that their was NO SECOND CHANCE if the program crashed, for ANY REASON.

Of course not- when has a computer program ever crashed? - THEY ARE IDIOTS!!!


12 posted on 11/08/2012 10:57:26 PM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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From THE WALL STREET JOURNAL LIVE: 2012 Election Results

5:37 PM | Project ORCA, Romney's big Get Out The Vote initiative, has reportedly crashed. RealClearPolitics reporter Erin McPike tweets that Mitt Romney's Project Project ORCA app failed, so the GOP war room was unable to track the campaign's turnout operation.

Obama campaign aide Michael Czin tweets this, in response to the news:

22 posted on 11/08/2012 11:26:01 PM PST by Brandonmark (OWCM is The new American Minority!)
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Anyone have a techno-FReeper ping list? I’d be curious as to their thoughts.


23 posted on 11/08/2012 11:26:21 PM PST by stillonaroll
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I don’t think Romney would hire stupid people.


27 posted on 11/08/2012 11:32:21 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: stillonaroll
This explains nothing - it's a very weak attempt to try to “explain away” the fact that Romney wasn't really anyone's choice in the primaries, he was just the guy left standing after he eviscerated via attack ads anyone who was leading him. Does anyone really need software to help them to remind people to vote for them? I submit NO, they don't. If Conservatives want to vote for you, then you wouldn't be able to keep them away from their polling place. Further - Ronald Reagan never had “software” to remind us to go vote for him.

If THIS is what they're trying to pass off as the “reason” Romney lost then it really only explains what a lousy nominee he was in the first place.

29 posted on 11/08/2012 11:35:23 PM PST by antonico
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My immediate thought when I heard about Orca was that I hoped it didn’t go the way of their mobile app for announcing Romney’s VP pick. Remember that one> They had people download it and it turned out to have an embarrassing typo on it—then they never sent out the announcement of the VP pick on it at all.


33 posted on 11/08/2012 11:47:15 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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Add this together with the highly touted VP announcement app that failed as well and you’ve got to wonder if this was also tied to how the Romney consultants were enriching themselves instead of effectively using campaign resources. I mean, someone sold them on this and they gave, I’d bet, a juicy contract to someone. I bet some hired consultant got a cut for it.


39 posted on 11/08/2012 11:54:48 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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Here is another article on this subject:

Mitt Romney's 'Project ORCA' Was A Total Disaster, And It May Have Cost Him The Election

What is Project Orca? Well, this is what they told us:

Project ORCA is a massive undertaking – the Republican Party’s newest, unprecedented and most technologically advanced plan to win the 2012 presidential election.

Pretty much everything in that sentence is false. The "massive undertaking" is true, however. It would take a lot of planning, training and coordination to be done successfully (oh, we'll get to that in a second). This wasn't really the GOP's effort, it was Team Romney's. And perhaps "unprecedented" would fit if we're discussing failure.

The entire purpose of this project was to digitize the decades-old practice of strike lists. The old way was to sit with your paper and mark off people that have voted and every hour or so, someone from the campaign would come get your list and take it back to local headquarters. Then, they'd begin contacting people that hadn't voted yet and encourage them to head to the polls. It's worked for years.

From the very start there were warning signs. After signing up, you were invited to take part in nightly conference calls. The calls were more of the slick marketing speech type than helpful training sessions. There was a lot of "rah-rahs" and lofty talk about how this would change the ballgame.

Working primarily as a web developer, I had some serious questions. Things like "Has this been stress tested?", "Is there redundancy in place?" and "What steps have been taken to combat a coordinated DDOS attack or the like?", among others. These types of questions were brushed aside (truth be told, they never took one of my questions). They assured us that the system had been relentlessly tested and would be a tremendous success.

On one of the last conference calls (I believe it was on Saturday night), they told us that our packets would be arriving shortly. Now, there seemed to be a fair amount of confusion about what they meant by "packet". Some people on Twitter were wondering if that meant a packet in the mail or a pdf or what. Finally, my packet arrived at 4PM on Monday afternoon as an emailed 60 page pdf. Nothing came in the mail. Because I was out most of the day, I only got around to seeing it at around 10PM Monday night. So, I sat down and cursed as I would have to print out 60+ pages of instructions and voter rolls on my home printer. Naturally, for reasons I can't begin to comprehend, my printer would not print in black and white with an empty magenta cartridge (No HP, I will never buy another one of your products ever again). So, at this point I became panicked. I was expected to be at the polls at 6:45AM and nothing was open. I was thankfully able to find a Kinko's open until 11PM that was able to print it out and bind it for me, but this is not something I should have had to do. They expected 75-80 year old veteran volunteers to print out 60+ pages on their home computers? The night before election day? From what I hear, other people had similar experiences. In fact, many volunteers never received their packets at all.

At 6:30AM on Tuesday, I went to the polls. I was immediately turned away because I didn't have my poll watcher certificate. Many, many people had this problem. The impression I got was this was taken care of because they had "registered me". Others were as well. But apparently, I was supposed to go on my own to a Victory Center to pick it up, but that was never communicated properly. Outside of the technical problems, this was the single biggest failure of the operation. They simply didn't inform people that this was a requirement. In fact, check out my "checklist" from my ORCA packet:

Notice anything missing? My guess is the second "Chair (if allowed)" was supposed to be "poll watcher certificate" but they put chair twice. This was an instruction packet that went out to 30,000+ people. Did no one proof-read it?

So, I headed back home to see if I could get my certificate. I called their official help line. It went unanswered. I tried their legal line. Same thing. I emailed them. No response. I continued to do this for six straight hours and never got a response. I even tried to call three local victory centers. All went straight to voicemail.

While I was home, I took to Twitter and the web to try to find some answers. From what I saw, these problems were widespread. People had been kicked from poll watching for having no certificate. Others never received their pdf packets. Some were sent the wrong packets from a different area. Some received their packet, but their usernames and passwords didn't work.

Now a note about the technology itself. For starters, this was billed as an "app" when it was actually a mobile-optimized website (or "web app"). For days I saw people on Twitter saying they couldn't find the app on the Android Market or iTunes and couldn't download it. Well, that's because it didn't exist. It was a website. This created a ton of confusion. Not to mention that they didn't even "turn it on" until 6AM in the morning, so people couldn't properly familiarize themselves with how it worked on their personal phone beforehand.

Next, and this part I find mind-bogglingly absurd, the web address was located at "https://www.whateveritwas.com/orca". Notice the "s" after http. This denotes it's a secure connection, something that's used for e-commerce and web-based email. So far, so good. The problem is that they didn't auto-forward the regular "http" to "https" and as a result, many people got a blank page and thought the system was down. Setting up forwarding is the simplest thing in the world and only takes seconds, but they failed to do it. This is compounded by the fact that mobile browsers default to "http" when you just start with "www" (as 95% of the world does).

By 2PM, I had completely given up. I finally got ahold of someone at around 1PM and I never heard back. From what I understand, the entire system crashed at around 4PM. I'm not sure if that's true, but it wouldn't surprise me. I decided to wait for my wife to get home from work to vote, which meant going very late (around 6:15PM). Here's the kicker, I never got a call to go out and vote. So, who the hell knows if that end of it was working either.

So, the end result was that 30,000+ of the most active and fired-up volunteers were wandering around confused and frustrated when they could have been doing anything else to help. Like driving people to the polls, phone-banking, walking door-to-door, etc. We lost by fairly small margins in Florida, Virginia, Ohio and Colorado. If this had worked could it have closed the gap? I sure hope not for my sanity's sake.

The bitter irony of this entire endeavor was that a supposedly small government candidate gutted the local structure of GOTV efforts in favor of a centralized, faceless organization in a far off place (in this case, their Boston headquarters). Wrap your head around that.

41 posted on 11/08/2012 11:57:35 PM PST by Brandonmark (OWCM is The new American Minority!)
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“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

- Marcus Tullius Cicero


45 posted on 11/09/2012 12:07:08 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

- Marcus Tullius Cicero


46 posted on 11/09/2012 12:07:08 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Of course, there is also the great bitter irony of this from Mr. Harvard Business School, whose entire campaign, rather than promoting conservative principles, was “I know how to run companies, I know how to run things.”

Both PE and VC guys know how to run operationally petite investment companies, but to actually run the companies they invest in they bring in the operations executives who know how to run large organizations. The PE/VC guys aren’t really hands on at all. Yet, we repeatedly heard how hands-on Romney was, overseeing and making all kinds of campaign decisions himself.


48 posted on 11/09/2012 12:13:54 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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