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To: DaveMSmith; NFHale; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy
I wonder if this warrants a note to my us rep. I think Boehner is a lousy poker player and we could do better with someone else or form a 3rd party and let the dems be speaker.

I will tell my US Representative tomorrow to vote against Boehner as speaker. However, Obama may see the danger of newly converted amnesty ally Boehner getting thrown out next year, and for that reason amnesty may come up in the lame duck.

It's all going down the hopper anyway. Senate ignores everything passed.

Let's examine that statement. GOP senators were ready to pass amnesty in 2007 before the phones melted.

There are 45 GOP senators, with the same number after lame duck. Obama would need to pick off 6. I am not going to assume that the madness that has infected Boehner is contagious, but I am not going to assume that it is not. Not all senators are like Sessions.

Luger would get to vote for it and does not face reelection.

Flake has been for some amnesty proposals in the past, and even proposed his own.

Rubio has proposed his own dream act.

I think Kay Bailey Hutchison would vote no, but it took her a long time to make up her mind about the GWB amnesty. Cruz, taking over her job next year, sounds OK so far, but he is a new guy.

Kirk? He said that condoms reduce illegal immigration!

Murkowski: RINO but may vote against Obama amnesty, who knows.

And then there are the 2007 amnesty cheerleader McCain, Graham, Chambliss, Isakson.

224 posted on 11/11/2012 2:15:23 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: DaveMSmith; NFHale; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy
There are 45 GOP senators, with the same number after lame duck. Obama would need to pick off 6.

I said 6 because the socialist Bernie Sanders voted against amnesty in 2007. If Sanders, Manchin, etc., all vote TES, Obama needs only 5.

230 posted on 11/11/2012 3:18:00 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DaveMSmith; NFHale; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; ...
RE :”I will tell my US Representative tomorrow to vote against Boehner as speaker. However, Obama may see the danger of newly converted amnesty ally Boehner getting thrown out next year, and for that reason amnesty may come up in the lame duck. “

The only reason Republicans would do anything in lame duck is because they think misguided maybe that they would get a better deal than the next congress. But I don't see that happening, I don't think Bohner is evil just cowardly and dumb.

Patty Murray was on ABC This Week and she said on camera that maybe the best thing is to let all the taxes go up and then come back in January to deal with it. Other Dems have said the same ON CAMERA.

If Republicans were saying this then congressional Dems would be on every TV station screaming “... said she/he is saying your taxes should go up

This is how Dems beat Republicans senseless last year and got them to surrender on both the budgets and the debt limit, by using their words against them as weapons.
Dems know how to fight and win. Republicans just put up some token resistance and then they give Dems the ammunition they need to crush them, and then they just cave.

No faith in that crew. I Expect them to cave again on this and vote as O dictates, then they will own it, and later try to say they were against what they voted, just like Ryan tried to do this year with the automatic cuts.

233 posted on 11/11/2012 4:58:55 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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