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Senators propose comprehensive immigration changes
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | November 11, 2012 | MICHELE SALCEDO

Posted on 11/11/2012 1:47:23 PM PST by artichokegrower

WASHINGTON (AP) — Two senators on opposite sides of the aisle are proposing comprehensive changes to the immigration laws that would include a pathway to citizenship for the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants now in the United States.

Democrat Chuck Schumer of New York and Republican Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who promoted similar proposals on separate Sunday news shows said that no path to citizenship would be available until the country's borders were secure.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: immigration; obamabackinbusiness; obamabacktobusiness
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But no budget.


21 posted on 11/11/2012 2:05:13 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: MachIV
He'll be facing someone this time around.

The SC GOP love him. Duke Power loves him. Trial lawyers love him.

22 posted on 11/11/2012 2:05:41 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: artichokegrower

Fine... let’s bring in another 50 million Mexicans. Let’s send them into the cities so they can take all the jobs from Obama’s “base”.

Let’s see how Holder’s people like the result of that.


23 posted on 11/11/2012 2:05:50 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: stanne

“Hannity is vastly, comically underqualified”

Seems like a nice guy. Probably fun to have a beer with, Butt,,,, you’re dead on! A policy nitwit! 8^)


24 posted on 11/11/2012 2:06:37 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: artichokegrower

If this happens, stick a fork in us...we’re done as a country.


25 posted on 11/11/2012 2:07:05 PM PST by MachIV
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To: dirtboy
no path to citizenship would be available until the country's borders were secure.

Seems like that was part of the deal last time.
26 posted on 11/11/2012 2:08:33 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: artichokegrower

How many times are we going to do this? What a joke this country is becoming. Why have borders and laws anyway?


27 posted on 11/11/2012 2:08:33 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: artichokegrower

“Democrat Chuck Schumer of New York and Republican Lindsey Graham of South Carolina”

Opposite sides of the aisle? I think not.


28 posted on 11/11/2012 2:08:56 PM PST by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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To: artichokegrower
One might assume that Lindsey Graham is the best that we could expect from...say...Rhode Island.But can't SOUTH CAROLINA do a *lot* better than him?
29 posted on 11/11/2012 2:09:23 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: gotribe
I actually liked Limbaugh’s idea: go ahead and make them legal but don’t let them vote for 25 years.

I heard that part of the show Friday as the wife and I left the shooting range after 2 hours shooting her Glock 17 and my HnK USP9 going through several HUNDRED rounds of ammunition.

Rush nailed it. If the Democrats are serious about this being a "compassion" issue for them they'd readily agree to not letting immigrants vote their first 25 years in this country.

Personally, I think it's a GREAT idea.

30 posted on 11/11/2012 2:09:23 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: stanne

They don’t care about legacies or posterity as long as they get “theirs” now.


31 posted on 11/11/2012 2:09:59 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: artichokegrower
Interesting that immigration is such an immediate priority while the country goes bankrupt.

Any legislation that legalizes the status of those who broke our laws by entering our country illegally and allows them to stay and work here is amnesty. We must not only prevent the Democrats and some moderate Republicans from hijacking the meaning of the word amnesty, but the public must be made aware about the true impact of an amnesty. The Heritage Foundation concluded that the cost of amnesty would be $2.6 trillion just for increased entitlement program costs. And the number of additional LEGAL immigrants who would join those who were the recipients of amnesty through chain migration, i.e., family reunification, would approach 70 million over a 20-year period, assuming there are only 12 million illegal aliens. We cannot assimilate such numbers. An amnesty would destroy the United States of America with the stroke of a pen.

32 posted on 11/11/2012 2:11:26 PM PST by kabar
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To: artichokegrower

If the pubbies are gonna cave, they should at least get the wall completed so there is no reneging . Ya think?!


33 posted on 11/11/2012 2:12:54 PM PST by Wi40
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To: Mamzelle

How about Trey Gowdy? That man has backbone!


34 posted on 11/11/2012 2:13:03 PM PST by Andy'smom
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To: artichokegrower

The republic hasn’t been dead for a week, and here come the grave-robbers.


35 posted on 11/11/2012 2:20:33 PM PST by Jacquerie (Once a republic, now a democratic tyranny.)
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To: artichokegrower

If democrats get to tax like they want, maybe business will haul tookus to Mexico? We will suffer but I bet many illegals here from south of the border will be heading home.

If amnesty happens, we are screwed.


36 posted on 11/11/2012 2:22:06 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: artichokegrower

they would be wise to stay away from the terminology, “path to citizenship.” I might listen to what they have to say if they talk about “Path to legalization”. If any are legalized, citizenship must be a distant possibility.


37 posted on 11/11/2012 2:22:36 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: usconservative
Rush knows batsh*t about the immigration issue. An amnesty would kill this country. Legal immigration is already killing us. An amnesty would be the last nail in the coffin.

FYI: The Dems would love to take such a deal even if the courts would never permit such second-class citizenship.

38 posted on 11/11/2012 2:23:45 PM PST by kabar
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To: usconservative

No, I don’t think so. Their newly legalized kids would be able to vote in much less time than that. You would have to restrict not only them, but everyone else that they would bring with them for another 25 years. That is not going to happen. Also, even if the dems would agree to such terms initially, they would reneg at the first opportunity to do so. And finally, this would not halt illegal immigration at all. They would still be coming here illegally and probably at an increased pace.

So. if this amnesty does happen. We will effectually be forming a political union with Mexico and the reconquista will be complete.


39 posted on 11/11/2012 2:25:11 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 3Fingas

reneg == renege


40 posted on 11/11/2012 2:26:55 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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