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Allow Alaskans a free and open election to decide whether or not Alaska should Secede
Whitehouse.gov ^ | 11/11/2012 | White House.gov

Posted on 11/11/2012 6:24:54 PM PST by JohnKinAK

here is a commonly held belief across Alaska, that the US Constitution has been set aside, and other then ourselves, there are no protections to the liberty and freedoms we are to have as our continued inheritance since the formation of the Union of the "several States". Our main "goal" is a legal vote and ballot; one that was not given in 1958 and was in violation of International Law and Treaty. Alaskans were robbed of the choices we were to have as a non-self-governing territory, and steam-rolled into the current classification of a State. The Native population of Alaska, in a large percentage, did not even receive a ballot because of the Federal Voting Rights Act in place. Alaskans now seek to a statewide free election to decide whether Alaska should be a free and Independent Nation.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; US: Alaska
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To: JohnKinAK

Alaska would be better off under russian occupation ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....................We must us every avenue of annoyance and disruption that alynski has to offer. Use thier medicine against them. OVERWHELM THE SYSYTEM


41 posted on 11/12/2012 4:05:06 AM PST by ronnie raygun (BB)
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To: Eska

Sorry to not getting back at you sooner, just woke up a little while ago, getting ready for a supposed busy day driver the concrete mixer, its going to a Pentecostal church in Palmer. Weather in mat Su is mild, just a trace of snow on the ground, Sarah Palin has been mostly silent on recent events. I honestly cannot comment on what is blowing around the valley about the election, I do know there is a lot of very disappointed people. They didn’t want to vote for Romney but did anyway, basically I get the impression many just did not go out and vote that they probably knew it was going to be a wasted effort.

Myself my job is about to seasonally end, maybe another week or two, all this season it has been almost like guarding a graveyard, dead slow, I only hired one driver for the whole summer season, when it got busy we hired temporary drivers who used to work for us and had the time from their other job.

I do believe Alaskans will whole hardheartedly endorse being an independent state, as you are aware its been a sore subject for decades. My plans of heading to Oz is still there, possibly just before breakup, if my passport application is rejected I will haul my trailer to Edmonton and work the oil patch for the summer. My year to date wages are half what they have been from years past, I am in debt big time, I may have to actually sell some of my guns.

Depends on how much Obama intrusion we get here in Alaska I suppose. i stockpiled over 130 gallon sized cans of the Auguson Farms freeze dried foods, thats enough for me to live on for a year. If I had a moose to harvest I can get another years worth of meat. have to wait and see, last I heard some group wants to relocate all the Valley moose.

I think its because Fish and Feathers believe the people will start to massively poach, and that quite possible since salmon season was a total bust. I hope you have prepped for a long winter and ALL your needs have been addressed. I still need more stored water cause my well has nasty water full of iron. Good Luck to you and happy hunting!


42 posted on 11/12/2012 4:27:26 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: Eska

“I couldn’t live anywheres else and really be happy.”

I lived in AK from ‘71 - ‘89. I’ve never been happier than there. There was true tolerance and honesty. Polical correctness didn’t exist. People were independent. The mindset was liberating. It spoiled me when it comes to living free and speaking freely. When coming to the Lower 48, I learned that every word and thought had to be processed and calculated to determine who might be offended, what was politically correct, etc. When in Alaska, that wasn’t an issue. Sure, people had their toes stepped on now and then, including myself, but nobody took it personally. You accepted the opinions of others and they accepted yours. No righteous indignation or recriminations. Of course, that was then and this is now; I suppose a lot of that has changed, but it was wonderful then.


43 posted on 11/12/2012 4:44:33 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: MayflowerMadam

My left wing niece and her progressive husband moved from Oregon to Anchorage and insist on both intolerance and political correctness. It might not be the same now


44 posted on 11/12/2012 4:49:16 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: MayflowerMadam

It has changed a small bit in Anchorage and some places out here in the Valley, such as a lot of rowdy bars closing and a slew that are now non-smoking. A lot more people live here than when I first arrived in 1992, traffic is a nightmare at times in Wasilla, never really had that problem before.

I could never ever leave Alaska for the lower 48, I could and may indeed leave Alaska for another country, but thats because I am a seasonal worker, where I live I do not have many other job options during the winter.


45 posted on 11/12/2012 4:50:20 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: JohnKinAK; gonzo; MinuteGal
A whole national movement of petitions to annoy the White House.

So far AK, TX and LA. I wish FL was next.

5.56mm

46 posted on 11/12/2012 5:00:24 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: dynachrome

I say let free people decide what unions they join.

Socialist and statists object because the need to keep productive people captive in their utopia to keep up the standard of living to a point just above the revolt level.

And - I totally disagree with your statement that Alaska is poor. I think if Alaska was a separate nation within 4 years the people of alaska would the wealthiest in the world. Removal of just a few of the federal restrictions placed on Alaska could unleash untold wealth.


47 posted on 11/12/2012 5:01:26 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: JohnKinAK

My fellow Alaskans...

48 posted on 11/12/2012 5:09:14 AM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
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To: Triple

I bet renewed interest in cashing out the PFD takes hold. No more yearly Permanent Fund Dividend payed each year to every legal Alaskan resident.

We do have a lot of welfare families up here and Alaskans do have a boom or bust mentalty, they would rather gamble with getting a many thousands of dollars PFD cashout than a continued steadily dropping in size PFD check or deposit.


49 posted on 11/12/2012 5:09:26 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: posterchild

Nice Johnny Horton reference!


50 posted on 11/12/2012 5:13:47 AM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Did they pee in your fruit loops?
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Even worse...they peed in my coffee. Can’t have that.


51 posted on 11/12/2012 6:30:57 AM PST by conservaKate (R got it wrong in 2012. We must get it right in 2014 & 2016.)
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To: American in Israel

You ingrateful sot you.
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I’m not the ungrateful snot. The citizens of Alaska that want to become an independent nation are the ungrateful folks.

There probably isn’t a state in the union that doesn’t have more federal land than they would like to see. Land that someone would like to use and or exploit for profit. Pffft.

re oil: Alaska doesn’t ‘own’ the oil. A big oil company owns the oil.


52 posted on 11/12/2012 6:38:25 AM PST by conservaKate (R got it wrong in 2012. We must get it right in 2014 & 2016.)
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To: deport
Doesn’t the Feds own most of the territory in Alaska thus what size would AK be should it remove itself from the USA?

I'll answer this as if it is a serious question, though perhaps you meant it as a joke.

Of course the answer is "NONE". Alaska would be dissolving the Union with the Federal Government and all lands in Alaska would cede back to the State.

As an aside the US Constitution attempted to safeguard against FedGov as the owner of huge chunks of land. The founders had already been through that system in England, thank you very much. That's why the only Constitutional piece of federal land are the various forts and DC, which was limited to 10 square miles for a reason.

It's not just Alaska where FedGov owns way too much land, it's much of the West. Lately they have taken to not even maintaining (or allowing to be maintained) roads that have been in place for 50 years or more. There are many parts of the Gifford-Pinchot forest that are essentially being put off limits to people by the deliberate closing of roads and allowing them to overgrow. This includes roads with fully concrete bridges on them!

53 posted on 11/12/2012 6:43:40 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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54 posted on 11/12/2012 6:48:55 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Jack Black
Texas Secession!

Louisiana Secession!

Tennessee Secession!

Mississippi Secession!

North Carolina Secession!

Florida Secession!

Georgia Secession!

South Carolina Secession!

Alabama Secession!

Missouri Secession!

Arkansas Secession!

Kentucky Secession!

Oklahoma Secession!

Montana Secession!

Indiana Secession!

Colorado Secession!

North Dakota Secession!

New Jersey Secession!

Oregon Secession!

Pennsylvania Secession!

Michigan Secession!

New York Secession!

California Secession!

Ohio Secession!

South Dakota Secession!

Minnesota Secession!

Illinois Secession!

55 posted on 11/12/2012 6:50:50 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ApesForEvolution; ..
CWII Ping!


56 posted on 11/12/2012 6:54:06 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ApesForEvolution; ..
CWII Ping!


57 posted on 11/12/2012 6:54:06 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ApesForEvolution; ..
CWII Ping!


58 posted on 11/12/2012 6:55:08 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: JohnKinAK

It would have been nice if someone with some English skills had looked that over before it was submitted.


59 posted on 11/12/2012 6:59:56 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: montanajoe

I was being 97% sarcastic.
Sorry if I mislead anyone.
But I would rate Putin’s Russian Orthodox over Baraq’s Commie Muslim.


60 posted on 11/12/2012 7:33:04 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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