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The Real Lesson of the Election (Indiana Tells Us More About America's Future Than Ohio)
American Thinker ^ | 11/13/2012 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 11/12/2012 8:12:42 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Each year I drive across the eastern half of the country twice, including the states of Ohio and Indiana. Without benefit of signage it would be hard to tell them apart. Each has an industrial base in the north and a heartland dedicated largely to agriculture.

Each state is 86 percent white and has a Republican governor. Over the last 25 years, I think I have stopped at every McDonald's on 1-70 and 1-71, and the service is uniformly upbeat and amiable along the whole route.

In 2008 both states voted for Barack Obama for president, Ohio by four percent, Indiana by one percent. In 2012, Ohio voted for Obama by a two percent margin, but Indiana voted for Romney by a 10.5 percent differential. Some 250,000 fewer Hoosiers voted for Obama in 2012 than in 2008, and Romney topped McCain's total by nearly 70,000 votes.

Despite the filter of a hopelessly corrupt media, huge numbers of Indiana citizens saw through the Obama ruse. In this unproductive week of finger pointing and teeth gnashing, I am prepared to argue that Indiana tells us potentially more about America's future than Ohio.

In the week before the election, I was invited to speak at my alma mater, Purdue University. As I drove around West Lafayette, what caught my eye was the absence of Obama signs. I did not see one, not even in the faculty neighborhoods. As Obama's unpopularity grew during the last four years, his team at some point decided to concede Indiana. From their perspective, Indiana lacked one tactical asset that Ohio had -- early voting.

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1 posted on 11/12/2012 8:12:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; LS; fieldmarshaldj

Vigo Co in IN, Ottawa Co in OH, and Prince William Co in VA all went for Baraka Clause.

The sad part about Vigo was Gov elect Mike Pence did not win Vigo.


2 posted on 11/12/2012 8:16:47 AM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Perdogg

Jack Cashill makes an observation :

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In fact, college students have always been ignorant. In uncontested states like Indiana, they usually don’t bother voting. The election of 2008 was the exception. Obama hit the student world like Justin Bieber, who was also discovered in 2008. That year, students voted because they were excited. In 2012, they voted because they were trucked to the polls. They added the leftward drift to the exit polling data. Given their lack of land lines, it is unlikely that anyone had polled them before.

This pattern was repeated in all the states with early voting. In Florida, Ohio, Nevada, Iowa, and North Carolina, more registered Democrats voted early than Republican — in some states, by as much as 50 percent more.
This election is over. We lost. But let us not write off the republic quite yet. Obama had nearly 7.5 million fewer votes in 2012 than he had in 2008. A whole lot of people obviously wised up. Yes, Romney had 1.3 million fewer votes than McCain, but 1.1 million of those votes were in California and another half-million were in New York, two states where Republicans have all but given up.

More to the point, Obama had a lower percentage of the vote in 2012 than in 2008 in every single state but New Jersey. The Sandy photo op would seem to have paid off. It might have even saved his election.

Until the dust settles, I would ask the Republican punditry to cease trolling for more votes among new classes of the clueless — they will always prefer Democrats — and invest their energy instead in educating the ignorant and tightening the electoral process.


3 posted on 11/12/2012 8:20:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Huh? What’s the lesson from Indiana - that early voting favors Dems? That’s not very actionable.


4 posted on 11/12/2012 8:21:11 AM PST by gotribe
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To: Perdogg

we won this election fair and square, they cheated and stole the election fair and square on their eyes.

3 states which were swing states were close and if we had the balls to stop this fraud , call out the media and ivestigate who voted nad how many times then we would ave won.
Not to mention PA,WI,NM too, many can move on but I will not.

oh nad about the black population voting, they voted liek they did based out of their racist views towards whites, pure and simple but we won;t hear that either off this currpt media

the black community wears it racism with pride, my kids always tell me how they put down whites, how they refuse to mix, how they laugh at how they can get in their words” white b%%%% they;re easy”


5 posted on 11/12/2012 8:21:38 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Perdogg

I believe Lake Co. went that way also, Gary being the armpit of this state...


6 posted on 11/12/2012 8:23:30 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: manc

Barack Obama is their ‘OJ Simpson’ candidate.


7 posted on 11/12/2012 8:27:21 AM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Lots of things from this election give me encouragement in Michigan.

Proposition 2 DEFEATED

What would Prop 2 do?

Prop 2 would allow government unions to overrule at the bargaining table a multitude of laws passed by our elected representatives. Prop 2 would also directly override numerous existing laws. The state attorney general has written that Prop 2 would repeal, in whole or in part, 170 laws. Under Prop 2, it would be legislatively impossible for Michigan to become a right-to-work state.


Proposition 3 DEFEATED

What would prop 3 do?

Proposition 3 would have constitutionally mandated that 25% of Michigan energy be supplied by renewable sources by 2025.This would be primarily wind and would constitutionally require between 2500 and 4000 windmills be erected in the next 13 years.


Prop 4 forced unionization of home based care workers DEFEATED

What would prop 4 do?

Prop 4 would give a constitutional right to "unionize" home care workers against their will while seizing dues with no realistic intent to represent the forced membership. These are primarily family members caring for severely disabled family members.

8 posted on 11/12/2012 8:31:54 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

No early voting in IN ? I live here and we started on Oct 8.


9 posted on 11/12/2012 8:32:25 AM PST by erlayman
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To: Abathar

Arm pit of the state you are rating it too high, I would call it a lower orifice.


10 posted on 11/12/2012 8:40:17 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: griswold3

can;t put pictures up here but I have a picture of a crowd of blacks and whites watching the TV when that verdict came in.

The blacks jumoed up and cheered and laughed, the whites had their heads on their hands with shock on their face.

Whilst we keep teaching blacks how they were put down, how they were denied because of the white man then we will always have angry blacks who hate whites and we will always have racism on their communities.

Imagine always being told at public schools how the white man put your lot down, and then have years of that?
That is why we have what we have today.
Blacks not informed , not understanding that many races have been put down and not understanding the constitution whilst we keep giving handouts .

I had a black family tell me and my kids that they knew nothing about the Dems segregating the military under Wilson, how the Dems wee the party of the KKK,, Slavery anti civil rights.
They then told me they were voting because republicans were going to cut their food stamps and welfare.

The media will never mention black racism because it does not fit their narative and because some think they will be caleld racist by those who are actually the real racists.


11 posted on 11/12/2012 8:42:25 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: griswold3
"Barack Obama is their ‘OJ Simpson’ candidate."

and Trayvon is their son

12 posted on 11/12/2012 8:42:34 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: SeekAndFind

Remember when the Cenusus Bureau went under Rahm Emanuel’s control 2 years ago?

I’d bet $1000 that the Obama campaign illegally had all of that data, and they used it to their huge advantage for a massive get out the vote effort, and their huge micro targeting campaign.


13 posted on 11/12/2012 8:43:58 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Perdogg

we won this election fair and square, they cheated and stole the election fair and square on their eyes.

3 states which were swing states were close and if we had the balls to stop this fraud , call out the media and ivestigate who voted nad how many times then we would ave won.
Not to mention PA,WI,NM too, many can move on but I will not.

oh nad about the black population voting, they voted liek they did based out of their racist views towards whites, pure and simple but we won;t hear that either off this currpt media

the black community wears it racism with pride, my kids always tell me how they put down whites, how they refuse to mix, how they laugh at how they can get in their words” white b%%%% they;re easy”


14 posted on 11/12/2012 8:46:33 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind
Wasn't Indiana just attacked by a CIA predator drone ?

15 posted on 11/12/2012 8:54:35 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: SeekAndFind

When I was in high school the dean held a class for current events once a week and you had better have read the study materials for that week. We knew more than any of our parents or most politicians an government leaders in the world.

It was a great class and we learned more about the world than any of thought we would.


16 posted on 11/12/2012 9:02:15 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
"Wasn't Indiana just attacked by a CIA predator drone ?"

No, it had a natural gas explosion.

17 posted on 11/12/2012 9:23:04 AM PST by circlecity
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To: SeekAndFind
Until the dust settles, I would ask the Republican punditry to cease trolling for more votes among new classes of the clueless — they will always prefer Democrats...

...or Libertarians, but unfortunately the GOP establishment is even more hostile to libertarian ideas than it is to the tea party.

Ron Paul, a pro-life Republican attracted a lot of the youth vote, because (1) his message on economics and the role of government was strongly libertarian, and (2) he didn't mince words about what he believed.

I was not a Ron Paul supporter, but he does blow up many of the memes being put forth by the talking heads at the moment, so it's worth talking about his campaign.

18 posted on 11/12/2012 10:02:59 AM PST by Brookhaven (theconservativehand.com - alt2p.com)
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To: Brookhaven

Paul doesn’t blow any meme up.

He is a cult conman who works his scam through politics.


19 posted on 11/12/2012 11:24:32 AM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: Perdogg; Impy; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy

Don’t read anything too much into Pence losing Vigo. Ex-Speaker Gregg, Pence’s opponent, represented Vigo County as part of his legislative district. Mitch Daniels carried Vigo in 2008 even as we lost the state for President. I was more troubled with the margin for Marion County/Indianapolis. Daniels won it with 56-42% in 2008 and Pence lost it 36-59%, a dreadful showing (Willard got 38%).


20 posted on 11/12/2012 1:01:50 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; LdSentinal; ExTexasRedhead; ...

There are a few small hopeful signs amid the dissapointment. Romney won 60% of white Catholics and even got 1/3 of the Jewish vote, the same that Ronald Reagan got in 1984. He also got a significant majority of the independent vote. His portion of the two-party vote was about 48.5%, not a landslide loss.

However, I have to make a painful observation, one that I didn’t think I’d need to. We need to take the immigration issue off the table. So I suppose some kind of compromise, like what Newt Gingrich propopsed a few months back, may be needed. That would be a limited path to citizenship under very stringent conditions. One example would be granting it to people who have been here 25 years, provided they pass a criminal background check and pay a fine. I wish I didn’t have to say this, but we can’t win on enforcement alone. The election proved that. Hispanic voters tend to trend Republican if they’ve been here a while and achieved some degree of economic success. We can’t write off a growing group of people who sympathize with us on some important issues.

Saying that hurt, but it is what it is. If you disagree with me, that’s OK, but no reason to slime me.


21 posted on 11/13/2012 4:48:22 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Muslims are a people of tolerance, life,and peace, and if you don't agree, they'll murder you)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Making some changes re immigration policy would be a step in the right direction. But it should be very narrow and stringent.

Dumping millions of unskilled people into an economy that is struggling to create jobs and/or into government free stuff programs that are already running deeply in the red will set everyone back. Family unification programs present another serious drawback.

Gradually easing people into citizenship who have been here for a long time might be an overture.

But tightening the border has to be the prerequisite to any amnesty ideas.


22 posted on 11/13/2012 4:55:47 PM PST by randita
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To: erlayman

Yes we do have early voting in Indiana.

However, Axlegrease wrote our state off early in the year based on polls and the Dems did not use the same tactics here that they did in true “swing” states like Oh, Fl, and Va.

That’s why you didn’t see adverts for Obama on local media outlets - just the national ads.


23 posted on 11/13/2012 4:58:31 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Isn’t it interesting that when Dems win “elections have consequences” and when Reps win, the media tells them they must “reach across the aisle”?


24 posted on 11/13/2012 5:00:18 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Pandering on immigration (amnesty) won’t work. You won’t gain any votes from the left and you will lose votes on the right.


25 posted on 11/13/2012 5:54:19 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I don’t like it either, but what I’m proposing (like Newt did) is very limited in scope, yet will provide enough political cover to get this issue off the table. The demographics are not on our side right now. Native-born Americans have more children during prosperity and fewer children during bad times, and times are bad and may remain so for years. The way demographics stand now, I don’t see any other way. We can still build the wall and should build it, but we need to find a way to win more non-white votes. Hispanics and Asians have conservative instincts on some issues and could be a gold mine of votes in the same way white Catholics did for Ronald Reagan.

On pure merit, your position is correct and if you have a better idea, feel free to enlighten me.


26 posted on 11/13/2012 6:07:04 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Muslims are a people of tolerance, life,and peace, and if you don't agree, they'll murder you)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Having watched my neighborhood fall, I cannot see giving an inch. We have absolutely no business bringing in (or legalizing) more people at this juncture when our economy is in shambles and are on the brink of a fiscal calamity. Any nation doing that is a recipe for suicide.


27 posted on 11/13/2012 6:33:26 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Clintonfatigued
I don’t like it either, but what I’m proposing (like Newt did) is very limited in scope, yet will provide enough political cover to get this issue off the table...We can still build the wall and should build it, but we need to find a way to win more non-white votes.

Two things:

1. I've seen the results of two polls of legal Hispanics reported. Such polls don't get a lot of coverage, understandably. But, in both cases, legal Hispanics were against amnesty by a 2-to-1 margin (60-32, e.g.). And why not? They are American citizens, they're proud of it...and they earned it -- either buy jumping thru all the hoops or by virtue of being born here (some of families who have been Americans for hundreds of years). They've no more interest in seeing their citizenship devalued than you.

2. We don't need to compete with the Democrats for a majority of the Hispanic (or Asian) vote. If we could have gotten another 10%, the GOP would've won in 2012. If we get another 15%, the Democrats would likely never win another national election.

That's doable.

28 posted on 11/13/2012 6:53:14 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Perdogg; GOPsterinMA; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican

Well Daniels was the incumbent running a good race against a loser dem. We’ll see how Pence does in Marion in 2016 (if he is not on the national ticket).

In between Obama landslides they reelected the GOP Mayor.


29 posted on 11/16/2012 12:59:09 AM PST by Impy (Boehner for President - 2013)
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To: Impy

I get the sneaking suspicion that once Mayor Ballard retires or is defeated (I believe there is no term limits, since his Dem predecessor tried running for a 3rd term and lost to Ballard) that he will be the last GOP Mayor for the forseeable future. Sadly, much like Columbus, Ohio. It’s astonishing and sad these two formerly GOP cities have turned to rotten Democrat like so many others. UniGov in Indy was designed to keep that from happening (as the city was electing Dems prior to Lugar in the old city limits), but short of expanding out into multiple counties, the GOP won’t have much luck. I’d expect Pence, unless he draws a pathetically weak opponent in ‘16 (or runs for President), he’ll probably get in the mid to low 40s in Marion.


30 posted on 11/16/2012 1:56:05 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

The rats did win the city council in 2011.

And Jacksonville elected an Obama mayor.

It’s sad as an urban dweller to see almost every major city dominated by scum with no signs of it ever getting better, only worse.


31 posted on 11/19/2012 10:41:03 PM PST by Impy (Boehner for President - 2013)
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