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The Petraeus Investigation’s Rogue FBI Agent Mystery (agent was Jill Kelleys's personal friend)
nymag.com/ ^ | 11/12/2012 | Dan Amira

Posted on 11/12/2012 10:31:42 AM PST by RoosterRedux

The entire investigation began when Kelley "complained to an F.B.I. agent who is also a personal friend" about the e-mails she was receiving warning her to stay away from Petraeus, the Times reported. (An FBI agent is a good friend to have.) This agent then "helped get a preliminary inquiry started," one which would eventually lead to the discovery of Petraeus's extramarital affair.

Even though the FBI looked into Petraeus and Broadwell and found no evidence of crimes or security breaches, sometime in October this same FBI agent leaked information about the scandal to GOP congressman Dave Reichert of Washington (although why Reichert was chosen is unclear). Reichert then passed the so-called "whistle-blower" onto House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, who did the responsible thing and relayed the concerns to FBI Chief Robert Mueller. According to a Cantor statement:

“I was contacted by an F.B.I. employee concerned that sensitive, classified information may have been compromised and made certain Director Mueller was aware of these serious allegations and the potential risk to our national security,” Mr. Cantor said in a statement.

The agent's outreach to these two Republican congressmen about an issue that had already been investigated by the FBI raises some questions. Over at The New Yorker, Jane Mayer asks them:

But what, exactly, was this F.B.I. employee trying to expose? Was he blowing the whistle on his bosses?

(Excerpt) Read more at nymag.com ...


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1 posted on 11/12/2012 10:31:48 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

At last we learn why and how the FBI had been drawn into the loop.


2 posted on 11/12/2012 10:33:14 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: MestaMachine

Ping.


3 posted on 11/12/2012 10:33:14 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: RoosterRedux

If they melded “24” and “Desperate Housewives” into a single television series, it would look much like this.


4 posted on 11/12/2012 10:34:34 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Hey, didn’t they watch Goodfellas and learn from the experience of that guy they tried to feed to the lions? Don;t mess with someone who has a relative (or friend) working for the FBI!


5 posted on 11/12/2012 10:35:45 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Our president ... makes big speeches packed full of little ideas" Charles C. W. Cooke)
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To: RoosterRedux
Amazing how easily it is for the JonStewart media to get to the bottom of things when it suits their purposes. I am ‘stunned’ we in three days know with specificity who is who and who did and said what to whom.

Now that we have the background why General Pet resigned he isn't working and has plenty of free time to answer more important questions? I doubt his wife is all that interested in hearing his excuses about his extracurricular activities that got the FBI involved in her world.

6 posted on 11/12/2012 10:36:29 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: dead

Good observation!


7 posted on 11/12/2012 10:37:39 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: dead

If they melded “24” and “Desperate Housewives” into a single television series, it would look much like this.

LOL! Toss in “Keeping Up With the Kardashians.”


8 posted on 11/12/2012 10:39:00 AM PST by maggief
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To: RoosterRedux

Sounds strange! Kelley and her husband supposedly are very close friends to Petraeus and yet, she does not mention this to Petraeus but goes straight to her FBI friend. Does not make sense?


9 posted on 11/12/2012 10:39:27 AM PST by classified
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To: RoosterRedux
But what, exactly, was this F.B.I. employee trying to expose?

That's where the facts end and the speculation starts!

Some early contenders:


10 posted on 11/12/2012 10:40:23 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Army Air Corps; annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; ...
Oh, for the love of Pete! How many different knots are they going to try and put in this pretzel? You need to be a contortionist just to get through the drek!

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


Benghazi Index

11 posted on 11/12/2012 10:40:43 AM PST by MestaMachine
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To: RoosterRedux
The thick plottens.... I smell a rat, big-time. Who is setting up Petraeus for a fall, and why? Ask: Cui bono?
12 posted on 11/12/2012 10:40:46 AM PST by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: RoosterRedux

The answer to the question of “Why David Reichert?” will surely be interesting.

http://reichert.house.gov/about-me/full-biography

Elected sheriff of King County, WA, law enforcement background and caucus member.


13 posted on 11/12/2012 10:42:40 AM PST by bigbob
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To: classified
I have had the same thought since the beginning.

The best answer would be Kelley thought the emails were from an anonymous stalker uninvolved with and perhaps even unknown by Petraeus...or perhaps she suspected Petraeus' wife.

14 posted on 11/12/2012 10:43:57 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: classified
Kelley and her husband supposedly are very close friends to Petraeus and yet, she does not mention this to Petraeus but goes straight to her FBI friend.

No. Does not make sense. Anyone would call the friend if they were in fact friends. No one would make their first call to the FBI if a friend was involved.

15 posted on 11/12/2012 10:44:15 AM PST by marron
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To: RoosterRedux

Your head is never in danger of being knocked off until it rises above the level of those around you.

This works for both Patreaus and Broadwell. The heads of others are just coming into view. The “personal friend” may be next.


16 posted on 11/12/2012 10:44:34 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: All
Here's an interesting tidbit from the NYTimes...
The involvement of the F.B.I., according to government officials, began when Ms. Kelley, alarmed by about half a dozen anonymous e-mails accusing her of inappropriate flirtatious behavior with Mr. Petraeus, complained to an F.B.I. agent who is also a personal friend. That agent, who has not been identified, helped get a preliminary inquiry started. Agents working with federal prosecutors in a local United States attorney’s office began trying to figure out whether the e-mails constituted criminal cyber-stalking.

17 posted on 11/12/2012 10:46:55 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: MestaMachine

Add me, please.


18 posted on 11/12/2012 10:48:42 AM PST by OwenKellogg
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To: RoosterRedux
Source for post 17: NYTimes
19 posted on 11/12/2012 10:49:34 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: RoosterRedux
Ms. Kelley, alarmed by about half a dozen anonymous e-mails

Odd. In some other accounts I had seen that the emails supposedly came from Petraeus' own account. Now they are anonymous.

20 posted on 11/12/2012 10:50:16 AM PST by marron
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To: Baynative
PING!

From article: "Even though the FBI looked into Petraeus and Broadwell and found no evidence of crimes or security breaches, sometime in October this same FBI agent leaked information about the scandal to GOP congressman Dave Reichert of Washington (although why Reichert was chosen is unclear). Reichert then passed the so-called "whistle-blower" onto House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, who did the responsible thing and relayed the concerns to FBI Chief Robert Mueller. According to a Cantor statement:"

21 posted on 11/12/2012 10:51:05 AM PST by Spunky (We lost so now I am thinking of joining them and getting an Obamaphone.)
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To: marron
It may not be as strange as it seems. She may not have approached Petraeus in an simple effort to protect him.

I'm not sure that I would have done differently.

22 posted on 11/12/2012 10:51:32 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: classified

Did the message say “Stay away from Petraeus?” I thought it just said “Stay away from my guy.” In that case why would Kelly go to Petraeus? Or maybe I’m wrong...


23 posted on 11/12/2012 10:51:44 AM PST by norcal joe
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To: RoosterRedux

Kelley was also a good friend with Petraeus’s wife so why would she turn the FBI onto Petraeus’s wife? If Kelley thought it was his wife, she would have at least showed or told Petraeus about the email and let him figure it out and take care of it. I’m mean we are talking about the soldier/General of the century here, not a whuss!


24 posted on 11/12/2012 10:53:16 AM PST by classified
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To: marron

Make sense to me. The FBI agent was a friend of Kelley’s too, and I can see her asking the agent for help about these weird threats that she knew to be baseless, rather than embarrassing herself by running to Gen. Petraeus who she obviously held in high esteem.

(Based on everything I’ve read which indicates there was nothing going on between Petraeus and Kelley other than friendship)


25 posted on 11/12/2012 10:53:32 AM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob
That scenario makes complete sense.

She has a very important and supposedly respectable friend, so she asks her FBI friend to look into what nut is sending her kooky email about him.

She didn't want to bother Patreaus with it, because for all she knew, this was completely her problem (stalker nut), not his.

26 posted on 11/12/2012 10:57:29 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: marron
It was an anonymous gmail account that Petraeus and Broadwell shared access to (i.e. the passwords of).

That way they could write and share email "drafts" without ever having to send them (and expose them).

Petraeus would write and save a draft without sending it...Broadwell would read the draft intended for her and delete it and write her own draft for P4.

But then Broadwell screwed up by sending a real email to Jill Kelley.

27 posted on 11/12/2012 10:57:51 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: classified
Good point. I don't know the answer.

She might have just decided she didn't want to worry Petraeus.

28 posted on 11/12/2012 11:00:15 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: norcal joe
Some comments about Kelly were pretty funny

Dig that crazy eye treatment man!


29 posted on 11/12/2012 11:00:27 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: norcal joe
For some reason I got the impression that the email was coming from Petraeus’s email account. But if Kelley did not know where the email was coming from then I could understand why she contacted her FBI friend. The way the information has been coming out, gives one the impression that Kelley somehow associated it with Petraeus, but maybe not.
30 posted on 11/12/2012 11:00:52 AM PST by classified
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To: RoosterRedux
sometime in October this same FBI agent leaked information about the scandal to GOP congressman Dave Reichert of Washington

I know more than a few FBI agents. Even known some SAIC's.

My first reaction is that the agent needs to have his azz kicked for releasing any information on an ongoing FBI investigation.

My second reaction is that I know of no agent of any kind that would go out on such a limb. They are ALL very sharp and very well educated people. Doing something like this especially since it leapfrogs over the chain of command is suicide to a field agent or even an SAIC.

Either the agent is not as smart as the ones I know or there is something pretty weird happening. This is all VERY strange.

31 posted on 11/12/2012 11:01:20 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: classified
For some reason I got the impression that the email was coming from Petraeus’s email account.

It was an anonymous gmail account.

32 posted on 11/12/2012 11:03:08 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: bigbob
add this, too?

110th Congress

Reichert was a member of the House Committee on Homeland Security, the Subcommittee on Border Maritime and Global Counter-terrorism, and the Ranking Minority Member on the Subcommittee on Intelligence Information Sharing and Terrorism Risk Assessment. He was a member of the House Committee on Science and Technology. Also, he was a member of the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, with membership on the Subcommittee on Aviation and Subcommittee on Highways and Transit.[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Reichert

33 posted on 11/12/2012 11:04:57 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: MestaMachine

for the love of Pete is right!!!!!!!!!!!!!


34 posted on 11/12/2012 11:11:26 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: RoosterRedux

“But then Broadwell screwed up by sending a real email to Jill Kelley” >p>

So Broadwell accidently sent a response to Kelley using that same account that she and Petraeus were using incognito and the FBI discovered their identities by monitoring the account? The FBI simply monitored it until more emails began on the account and then discovered that one of the persons using this account just happened to be the CIA director, Petraeus, right?


35 posted on 11/12/2012 11:13:25 AM PST by classified
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To: classified
Eggs-actly!

Broadwell's stupidity brought down the house of cards.

36 posted on 11/12/2012 11:16:15 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: RoosterRedux

Ok next question. How difficult is it to get the FBI to monitor an average citizen’s email for threatning messages?


37 posted on 11/12/2012 11:19:06 AM PST by classified
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“Sounds strange! Kelley and her husband supposedly are very close friends to Petraeus and yet, she does not mention this to Petraeus but goes straight to her FBI friend. Does not make sense?”

Had this same question as soon as the name “Kelley” was revealed. According to a report, Jill Kelley was not only personal friends with both Holly & David, they VACATIONED together!

WSJ says Petraeus’ name was never mentioned in the threatening emails. Kelley had no suspicion that emails involved Petraeus? Even so, she had no conversation with him about them? Maybe. Same WSJ article says Kelley received 5-10 emails beginning in May.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2958559/posts?page=137#137

NOW, not only are we told that the FBI agent whom Kelley contacted is a personal friend of her’s, but the very same agent is also the whistleblower who contacted GOP congressman Dave Reichert.

The questions pile up in the Petraeus affair and lead us further away from Benghazi...unless and until Petraeus testifies-—or a further Benghazi scandal involving Petraeus erupts, which it might, according to Broadwell’s father. SHEESH!!!

‘The truth will come out’: Father claims her affair is part of bigger scandal [Petraeus]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2958559/posts?q=1&;page=1


38 posted on 11/12/2012 11:21:35 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: isthisnickcool

This “agent” may *not* be a Special Agent of the F.B.I. Some employees of the F.B.I. have become careless with how they address people and describe their duties as employees of the F.B.I.

Several of them are assistants to Special Agents, and I had to question one such assistant, reminding her of that, when she called somebody and insisted on saying, “This is the F.B.I., and we have some questions for you.”

As you know, there is a precise series of steps by which a Special Agent *must* identify his or her self. The movies and TV shows generally are terrible at portraying that moment.

Some *assistants* seem to have gotten their “license” from such media.


39 posted on 11/12/2012 11:21:35 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Thanks. I find it hard to keep track of the details sometimes. And occasionally I find myself going down the wrong rabbit trail; I can usually count on my FR friends to reel me back in.


40 posted on 11/12/2012 11:22:16 AM PST by marron
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To: classified
I think all the FBI had to do to trace the owners/users of the anonymous gmail account was to obtain from Google the IP addresses of those using the account and then trace those IP addresses to other email accounts/activity...and voila.

I'll bet the FBI's collective heads exploded when they discovered one was from the CIA wifi.

41 posted on 11/12/2012 11:25:28 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: classified

Easy as pie if the FBI thinks a cyber crime is being committed.


42 posted on 11/12/2012 11:31:00 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: RoosterRedux

I bet the FBI already knew that they were having an affair when they did a security check on Petraeus being vetted for the CIA director’s position. I understand Petraeus went through many security checks through his career and like Judge Jeanine said, when the FBI does a security check on you, they know how many times your dog pees each day.


43 posted on 11/12/2012 11:33:11 AM PST by classified
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To: classified

Kelley may not have gone to Petraeus because she found out about the affair and wanted to expose him. So she sent the threatening emails to herself to get the FBI involved so they would discover the affair. At this point most anything is possible.


44 posted on 11/12/2012 11:37:11 AM PST by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: classified

KT McFarland confirms this. The FBI and WH knew EIGHTEEN MONTHS ago that Petraeus had an affair.

Notes on interview on Judge Jeanine Sat night with KT McFarland (national security commentator and personal friend of Petraeus)

She said 18 months ago Petraeus would have had an investigation and a polygraph (for CIA Director) from the FBI. The FBI and WH (because file would go to WH Personnel office) knew then about the affair.

She said in spring of 2011 when she was in Afghanistan there were “definitely rumors (about the affair) from a number of people.”

She also said that when senior official testifies before Congress, they submit their testimony to the WH. If they didn’t like what Petraeus was going to say....

KT McFarland interview:

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html


45 posted on 11/12/2012 11:39:39 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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Judge Jeanine's response about the FBI investigation on Patraeus and how she does not believe in coincidences. It was from this weekend. Good video.
46 posted on 11/12/2012 11:40:50 AM PST by classified
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To: classified
Maybe not as easy as pie...
The case shows just how easy it is to discover the personal connections that can unmask anonymous parties. But the Petraeus affair is as much an outlier as an exemplar. The FBI rarely, if ever, gets involved when one person is harassing another online.

“I’m not aware of any case when the FBI has gotten involved in a case of online harassment,” Justin Patchin, an associate professor of criminal justice at the University of Wisconin-Eau Claire, said. ”The FBI definitely wouldn’t get involved in your Joe Schmoe love triangle.”

The affair began to unravel after the Florida woman, Jill Kelley, contacted an FBI friend after receiving threatening and harassing emails from an anonymous person who accused her of flirting with a man who was not identified in the emails. Kelley is a volunteer social planner for events at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Florida, which is home to the military’s Central Command. Petraeus was commander of CENTCOM from 2008 to 2010, when he left to take his position as head of the CIA. Source


47 posted on 11/12/2012 11:40:50 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: RadiationRomeo; classified

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324073504578113460852395852.html
[Reporters: EVAN PEREZ, SIOBHAN GORMAN and DEVLIN BARRETT]

According to WSJ, we learn several “facts” I haven’t seen before:

The FBI investigation began with five to 10 emails beginning around May and received by Ms. Kelley,

Petraeus used a pseudonym to establish [g-mail acct]

They matched the places, including hotels, where Ms. Broadwell was during the times the emails were sent.

Some appeared to be accusing her of an inappropriate relationship but didn’t name Mr. Petraeus. Agents determined the emails were sent from an account shared by Ms. Broadwell and her husband

During Ms. Broadwell’s first interview in September, she admitted to the affair and turned over her computer

On her computer, investigators found classified documents,

The affair ended more than four months ago, though Mr. Petraeus continued to advise Ms. Broadwell on her research


48 posted on 11/12/2012 11:41:30 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Here is J.Jeanine’s video!

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html#/v/1961392548001/judge-jeanine-i-dont-believe-in-coincidences/?playlist_id=1794108333001


49 posted on 11/12/2012 11:43:17 AM PST by classified
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To: classified

Thx.


50 posted on 11/12/2012 11:44:27 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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