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Nov 12, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/12/2012 5:32:39 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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>> No, traditional America is not gone for good. Conservatism is not dead. America is not kaput.

bttt

21 posted on 11/12/2012 5:50:00 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Should have read, he won 26 to our 24 states.


22 posted on 11/12/2012 5:50:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: Jim Robinson

That was a lot of truth packed into just a few words! I honestly don’t think we would have done any better with Gingrich or Santorum, but the future looks pretty good. Ohio, Florida, Virginia, and Wisconsin all have Republican governors who are solid conservatives. Bobby Jindal might be ready to make a run in four years. Rand Paul will become more of a major player. Marco Rubio will be ready in four years. Sarah Palin will be a factor. Paul Ryan isn’t going away. All of those possibilities can make the case for limited government and fiscal sanity better than Mitt Romney, and all of them would be more willing to at least give some attention to social issues.


23 posted on 11/12/2012 5:50:35 PM PST by cdcdawg
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To: Jim Robinson

Sarah needs to join up with the Ron and Rand Paul, and start up a new party. The GOP hates real Conservatives probably more than the democrats do.


24 posted on 11/12/2012 5:52:31 PM PST by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: Jim Robinson

First, our conservatives elected by the people need a class to teach them how to answer the abortion question. Teach them how to change the subject to what is an issue and not make their answer an issue.


25 posted on 11/12/2012 5:54:38 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: Jim Robinson
Here! Here!


26 posted on 11/12/2012 5:54:38 PM PST by John 3_19-21 (Stand for something or fall for anything.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well said Jim!


27 posted on 11/12/2012 5:55:07 PM PST by Artcore
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m All In! (no pun intended)

Sometime in the next couple of weeks, it is off to NPA for me. They told us if we didn’t support them (GOP-e) this time that Obama would be re-elected.

We held our noses and our arshes, again, fell in behind them, again, and Obama won, again.

So, Karl, whatever your next plan is, I ain’t buyin’ it. If we lose again, at least we will be building a new Conservative or Constitutional Party to beat the Progressives by standing by principles and not trying to win a beauty contest.


28 posted on 11/12/2012 5:55:55 PM PST by mazda77
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m on board.


29 posted on 11/12/2012 5:57:02 PM PST by carmody
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To: John 3_19-21

But seriously, We only lose when we give up.


30 posted on 11/12/2012 5:57:44 PM PST by John 3_19-21 (Stand for something or fall for anything.)
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SARAH PALIN speaks out of massive Obama machine voter fraud:

Sarah Palin News ‏@SarahPalinLinks Between suppression of the military vote and voter fraud, Obama stole another election. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302 …DEMAND A RECOUNT! #VoterFraud

Sarah Palin News ‏@SarahPalinLinks People need to stop pointing fingers within the GOP and investigate the Dems' massive voter fraud and suppression of the military vote.




31 posted on 11/12/2012 5:58:26 PM PST by patriot08
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To: lkco

“There was no bumper sticker on my car because he did not earn a spot there. I did not doorbell, I did not make phone calls, I did not put up signs or spend hours putting them together. I voted for Romney, but just imagin how much effort I would have put in for a conservative candidate.”

This was my behavior, too. First time I didn’t precinct walk.

I did get all my family voting, I did pray, I did get Traditional Voters Coalition lit out to a few sympathetic churches.


32 posted on 11/12/2012 5:59:24 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’ve been hoping you’d see this:

This post is written in anger and frustration.

Angry that we continue to follow the Republican Party’s elite ignorance. A party that continues to pull defeat from the jaws of victory characterized by pompous fools who fulfill the sterotype built by the left.

Frustrated that the reality of politics is this: There will be no third party capable of competing with the coalition constructed by the dems. As a result, true conservatives MUST take steps to irradicate the ignorance of the Republican Party while still adhering to the core values of our forefathers (beliefs that I discovered are considered extreme by over half of my countrymen on Tuesday night, BTW).

I have no solve for exactly how to accomplish this. Only advice based on a long military career in several foreign lands for how to defeat the dems once this is accomplished.

This thought process is based on the concept of irregular warfare with twists thrown in here and there for good measure.

With that, I provide the following advice for the good of the order.

LEADERSHIP: The old crew has proven either incompotent or outdated. McConnell and Boerner must go. They represent a failed plan to defend and resist without clearly explaining their position. They are content with looking like the bad guys and face public scorn when they don’t realize how important it is to manipulate a clearly left leaning MSM. They represent the failure of the last four years to our own and obstructionists to the opposition. We’ve got to show a new face to the nation. That is the genesis of rebuilding this movement. Ryan or Cantor in the House, Rubio or Demint in the Senate.

We also need a standard bearer and I see no one on the horizon with as much rockstar potential and substance as Rubio. These next four years must put him on the center stage with a unified and consolidated message. It also needs to protect him from the attacks from the left that are guaranteed to come.

Everything the Obamites used to deny, deflect, and difuse will be used againstt hem....including the race card. THAT is what will make Rubio a teflon candidate.

If Rubio is a resounding “NO” then PICK ANOTHER but stop waiting for the return of Ronald Reagan and get behind someone who represents the values we’ve fought so hard for.

These men represent a change in a party that has been beaten soundly in the last two elections by a charlatan and his traveling circus. A fresh choice in leadership represents change you can TRULY beleive in from every angle. It marks a clear start from inside and outside when we actually started taking this enemy seriously.

GROUND GAME: It is IMPERATIVE to develop and foster an intricate ground game. It requires a MICRO-ANALYSIS of every county, every city, and every early and absentee ballot by demographic to find how how, why, and with what method they voted. The dems have built quite the coalition but it’s a house of cards; it’s a fractured coalition of single issue voters held together by a media-invested hollyweird worshipping demagogue. They can be piecemealed away bitby bit without sacrficing principle.

Give it to the dems on their “community organizing” machine. We don’t need to reinvent that model. We MUST develop our own. One that will INSTILL our principles in a language tailored to the audience. They’ve tailored theirs on the community organizer, we can create ours around the military special operator. This the winning of hearts and minds in our own third world backyard dem strongholds.

This isn’t as difficult as it sounds. It requires a patient and immediate effort that starts with the post election analysis looking not for what we WANT to find, but for the GROUND TRUTH. GROUND TRUTH is REAL INTELLIGENCE not Rovian number-crunching wishful thinking.

It will require an insurgent effort at the ground level. An infiltration into dem areas that we identify are weak or vulnerable to start cutting in to the blue.

The COIN (insurgeny/counterinsurgency)effort would include the identification of these areas, the inflitration of the areas through churches and charitable organizations AND PARTICULARLY THROUGH EDUCATION.

There ARE like thinkers in these communities. How do we find them? Ask Jesse L. Peterson. Ask JC Watts and Herman Cain. They KNOW how to splinter these vulnerable areas off the blue.

The hispanic issue is RIPE for moving into the red. Catholic, family oriented cultures who beleive in being left alone and naturally distrust the government. And they voted Obama? This is the epitome of the single issue voter. the RNC needs to go toe to toe, issue to issue with “the Race” and counter it in that community, in that language, at THAT LEVEL.

Think it can’t be done? SOF has been doing it since the end of World War II. It CAN be done.

WE must get deep into the education system to promote the ideals and values of conservatism that should be selling themselves. I’m not talking about traditional public schools and universities. They are ROTTED with liberals. They also aren’tthe keys to education in the 21st century.

I’m talking about the new way to educate - the online universities, the trade schools and nightschools. Corporate allies need to invest and educate with the ideals of economic and fiscal conservatism.

The RNC needs to lead and develop this effort. A novice like me can see that there is a disconnect between the voting habits of catholic-dominated hispanics and pockets of baptist blacks and their actual stated values. That disconnect can be exploited if it is done slowly, deliberately, and effectively.

INFORMATION WARFARE: We are ATROCIOUS AT THIS. Dems get a simple message out early and often. They poison the well and we are left to change minds rather than get the initial impression right from jump. We constantly play defense and think we are sooooo clever when dems (as they ALWAYS do) do something stupid or illegal and shocked when the media all but ignores it. We must take the offensive in getting up in every Candy Crowley, every George Stepenopolis’ face and call them what they are: democratic hacks posing as the “objective media”

We ABSOLUTELY MUST be proactive. We must attack at EVERY OPPORTUNITY then add each fail of the dems to a trend and theme. These themes must be simple, tailored, and repetitively broadcast to each target demographic.

We must look out beyond the 5 and 10 meter targets. We’ve got to effectively interpret what the dem message is on the horizon and confront it at all levels - from the national MSM level filtering directly down to the target group level. Even I can see what the talking points of the upcoming week are by watching the Sunday talking head programs. Defense is unacceptable. we can’t pretent that the most outrageous comment won’t gain traction then act surprised when weeks later, that theme picks up steam. Attack, attack, attack.

Alinsky tactics must be turned against their masters. There is GREAT power in ridicule and scorn. They make it too easy to use. It needs to be culturally tailored and consistent. Dennis Miller needs his own show on FNC AND a late night show on Fox. Let him source and promote culturally diverse conserative comedians that vulnerable areas can relate to and remember. Bold Fresh tours aren’t enough.

This is only part of an overall information operation plan that is constant in a simple party message and what it means to each target group.

WE DON’T DO THAT WELL. WHY NOT? I find it unbelievable that Obama has hijacked the reputation and imagery of the Party of Lincoln.

COIN operations involve a very in depth understanding of cultural idocyncracies and how best to exploit them to our advantage. It’s not a “wool-over-the-eyes” approach or a “free shit” approach like the dems sell. THAT ALWAYS COMES UP SHORT.

It’s a sell based on how it effects each target group and what it means to them. If it’s done right, I am CONFIDENT that the tenets of conservatism sell themselves.

In Civil Miltary Operations, assistance in areas that seem unrelated builds trust in the agency. Granted, there’s a fine line between assistance and the giving of free shit but, the special operations forces walk that line well. It can be done. Community outreach in areas that we identify, in ways that we haven’t before can build a larger tent without sacrificing our beliefs.

The military has been doing this in third world countries for years. We’ve been more successful in some areas, less successful in others. In the United States third world strongholds of the Democratic Party,I am confident that it can be done.

Here’s the kicker: There are countless retired special operations planners and operators working overseas as contractors RIGHT NOW. It’s too easy; the RNC needs to hire them as contractors over here.

This is, by far, not the only avenue we’ve got to pursue in order to turn the tide.

But, if we are going to war, the RNC must look to the military to rediscover and reorganize. The number-crunching beancounters have their place in the organization but, on their best days, they can only identify who will and won’t vote Republican.

This is a “Hearts and Minds” effort.

It requires a new way to think about the political battlefield.

Rangers Lead the Way.


33 posted on 11/12/2012 5:59:44 PM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: Jim Robinson

At this point, there is no future in the GOP for Conservatives. They have repudiated Conservatives at every opportunity and then cry when we won’t give them our support and money.

It is time to let the RINO beast die. Let the jackals feast on its carcass. TEA Party for me.


34 posted on 11/12/2012 5:59:47 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: KC_Lion

We’ve got to study their tactics, understand why they use them, why they work, and use that knowledge to crush them.

There was a school millage on my ballot during the presidential primary here in Michigan and it failed by a wide margin. In August we had our state primary without the millage question. They had the millage vote on a ballot by itself in September and it passed. They made a smart gamble that people would be unaware or wouldn’t want to waste time on such a small matter and now our taxes are going up.


35 posted on 11/12/2012 6:00:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: All

Of= about


36 posted on 11/12/2012 6:00:58 PM PST by patriot08 (Native Texas girl)
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To: DoughtyOne

I agree with your analysis, D.O.

If we can set our sites on a conservative R Senate in 2014. . . and if we can avoid any conservatives or moderates leaving the Supreme Court until then. . . we may still save the remnants of this Republic.


37 posted on 11/12/2012 6:01:27 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: tommix2

well.. that and massive fraud.


38 posted on 11/12/2012 6:02:15 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: patriot08

Yes, we knew there would be fraud and we must remain diligent, but we must also turn out the vote in sufficient numbers to overcome any fraud!! It’s pretty frickin’ basic that a supposedly conservative party should run a true conservative candidate and not a flip-flopping Massachusetts liberal!! Karl Rove engineered this fiasco and he should fry for it (politically speaking).


39 posted on 11/12/2012 6:04:23 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: patriot08
—>>suppression of the military vote.

I can't believe no one is covering this of ALL things..

40 posted on 11/12/2012 6:04:31 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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