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Romney Blames Loss on Obama’s ‘Gifts’ to Minorities and Young Voters
ny times ^ | 11/14/2012 | ASHLEY PARKER

Posted on 11/14/2012 2:45:23 PM PST by tobyhill

A week after losing the presidential election to President Obama, Mitt Romney blamed his overwhelming electoral loss on what he said were big “gifts” that the president had bestowed on loyal Democratic constituencies — including young voters, African-Americans and Hispanics.

In a conference call on Wednesday afternoon with his national finance committee, Mr. Romney said that the president had followed the “old playbook” of wooing specific interest groups — “especially the African-American community, the Hispanic community and young people,” Mr. Romney explained — with targeted gifts and initiatives.

“In each case they were very generous in what they gave to those groups,” Mr. Romney said.

“With regards to the young people, for instance, a forgiveness of college loan interest, was a big gift,” he said. “Free contraceptives were very big with young college-aged women. And then, finally, Obamacare also made a difference for them, because as you know, anybody now 26 years of age and younger was now going to be part of their parents’ plan, and that was a big gift to young people. They turned out in large numbers, a larger share in this election even than in 2008.”

The president’s health care plan, he added, was also a useful tool in mobilizing African American and Hispanic voters. Though Mr. Romney won the white vote with 59 percent, according to exit polls, minorities coalesced around the president in overwhelming numbers — 93 percent of blacks and 71 percent of Hispanics voted to re-elect Mr. Obama.

“You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you’re now going to get free health care, particularly if you don’t have it, getting free health care worth, what, $10,000 per family,

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At least one Republican has figured out what one of the problems are. The other problem is there's no solutions for the first problem.
1 posted on 11/14/2012 2:45:26 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Bolsheviks beat Mensheviks because they are playing ofr keeps. Play the game hard or don’t play at all.


2 posted on 11/14/2012 2:49:58 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: tobyhill

Hope all those young kids enjoy paying for Obama’s folly long after he is retired to the wastebin of history.

Hope they also love waking up in moms basement to that faded Obama poster !


3 posted on 11/14/2012 2:50:26 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: tobyhill

No solution while Obama holds the purse strings.

Romney was right about the 47% he is right about his loss.

There can be no other explanation for returning to office an incompetent such as Obama.


4 posted on 11/14/2012 2:52:31 PM PST by Venturer
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To: tobyhill

So, they had to throw in “overwhelming loss”? 62 mill to 59 mill.


5 posted on 11/14/2012 2:53:21 PM PST by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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To: tobyhill

His explanation is only partially correct. He forgot to mention his own inability to get more supporters to the polls and the democrats’ effective voter fraud efforts.


6 posted on 11/14/2012 2:54:18 PM PST by 3Fingas
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To: tobyhill

Romney doesn’t get it. Obama is a rock star to a lot of young people and a god to the blacks. Without the near 100% black vote, he would not have won.


7 posted on 11/14/2012 2:56:51 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: tobyhill

Stupid people, Hispanics, African-Americans and fraud all contributed to another 4 years of the nightmare.

Conservatives need to somehow take back publil educations - perhaps a voucher system would bring choice in schools for parents, and teachers.


8 posted on 11/14/2012 2:57:28 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: tobyhill
"The other problem is there's no solutions for the first problem. "

Ah but there is a solution if you meant people working. Put up everywhere 'help wanted for good paying jobs with benefits' and the lines would go around the block. Like in the good old days before jobs were exported to the world. Put people back to work earning money, buying things and paying taxes.

9 posted on 11/14/2012 2:58:03 PM PST by ex-snook (without forgiveness there is no Christianity)
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To: 3Fingas

Romney is the new Tom Dewey.


10 posted on 11/14/2012 2:58:08 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: tobyhill
I blame the loss of Colorado on the pot initiative.
11 posted on 11/14/2012 2:58:13 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: tobyhill

Debt, joblessness and unneccessary health care payments are Reid’s and Obama’s gifts to the young.

Romney should have fought harder for the youth vote- they’ve been totally shafted by the Dems.


12 posted on 11/14/2012 2:59:45 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: tobyhill

Hey Mitt!! Your friend Allen West is STILL fighting to recount the fraud in FL ..... You missed the number ONE REASON YOU LOST.......FRAUD.......
If there had of been Voter ID you would be preparing for January 20th Celebrations!!!!


13 posted on 11/14/2012 2:59:50 PM PST by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: 3Fingas
He forgot to mention his own inability to get more supporters to the polls

^ THIS ^

A genuine conservative -- gifted with the incredible bounty of a six-year head start, campaign-wise, and a hundred million or so in loose change -- might conceivably accept some meager portion of the blame unto himself, for being wholly incapable of closing the sale against a sitting president responsible for real unemployment whipsawing somewhere between 18% and 22%, depending...

... and then there's Mitt Romney.

14 posted on 11/14/2012 3:02:54 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: tobyhill

Romney didn’t win because he was a bad candidate, many people saw him (knew he was a liberal), he did actually fight for the office, was boring........
He was the wrong guy for the nomination.
Funny he is now blaming others of his loss......(eye roll)


15 posted on 11/14/2012 3:02:55 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: tobyhill

Yep, the Republican Brand is broke(n).


16 posted on 11/14/2012 3:04:03 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: tobyhill

Mitt should watch his words. I’m sure the elites plan on running him again.


17 posted on 11/14/2012 3:05:11 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: RobbyS
Without the near 100% black vote, he would not have won.

Probably closer to 104 to 140 percent Black vote.

18 posted on 11/14/2012 3:08:14 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: svcw

You don’t think the proliferation of free stuff is the primary problem? Look where all the turnout happened. People angry that they would lose their free stuff. Many things contributed to our current situation, but that is problem #1. The entire Democrat strategy revolved around the HHS ‘giving’ free contraception in February 2012 and making all employers (including religious groups) pay for it. The rest of the narrative was #waronwomen, and it worked. Whereas women should have been focused on their financial situation, jobs, and expensive gas and groceries, they were voting for ‘equal rights’ so they didn’t go back to the dark ages. That was THE difference in the election...a made up new right to free contraceptives.


19 posted on 11/14/2012 3:08:38 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: 3Fingas
I’m not sure some Conservatives understand exactly what happened but it’s actually very simple, the Demographics have tipped to a point of no return. All the illegal immigrants for the past 20+ years have been popping out children here at taxpayer’s expense and now those citizen children are coming to voting age. They were born dependent on Government and they will live the rest of their lives dependent on the Government.
20 posted on 11/14/2012 3:08:56 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

That’s right. 0 and the dems give away “free” things with our money.
We suckers work hard to pay taxes that the government uses to give gifts to people who vote democrat.


21 posted on 11/14/2012 3:09:49 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: tobyhill

It will take as long as it takes for working Americans of all income levels to figure out that the “gifts” with which Obama and the Democrats buy their adoring voting base are not theirs to give. They wrest them from the homes, families and hard work of the American taxpayer.

Until those taxpayers refuse to support every illegal that strolls across our border, every deadbeat who refuses to work, every spoiled, clueless, Liberally educated unproductive and ethicly challenged youngster who demands a “living wage” from people who have children to support themselves and who work long hours to do so and union members who demand a cushy retirement from people who don’t dare dream of such.....when the taxpayer finally says “enough” and business owners pull capital from overtaxed, job creating enterprises.....then and only then may we begin to emerge from this Socialist nightmare. Along the way, half a nation might just learn where their “freebies” really come from.


22 posted on 11/14/2012 3:10:33 PM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: tobyhill

“Romney Blames Loss on Obama’s ‘Gifts’ to Minorities and Young Voters’

I blame Romney’s loss on rat voter fraud. Romney supposedly had thousands of lawyers lined up to challenge election results. Why didn’t he use them? Hell, Romney should have called for patriots to take to the streets and challenge “the man” and shut down the system. Fascists in the rat party would’ve understood that.


23 posted on 11/14/2012 3:11:56 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: tobyhill

I will refer the right honorable gentlemen to the my post about Aztlan in a different threat.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2959554/posts?page=7#7

That being said, Romney still should have won if he could have garnered the sufficient amount of enthusiasm and if he had not acted like an effete country-club republican for most of the campaign.


24 posted on 11/14/2012 3:15:30 PM PST by 3Fingas
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To: ilgipper

I guess its my circle, but I did not know one woman (even the liberals) who cared diddly squat about free birth control or abortion.
obama was to win, and Romney was not the guy to beat him.


25 posted on 11/14/2012 3:15:36 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: 3Fingas

typo threat = thread....thousand pardons.


26 posted on 11/14/2012 3:16:26 PM PST by 3Fingas
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To: Venturer
There can be no other explanation for returning to office an incompetent such as Obama.

That doesn't explain why 10 million voters didn't show up, most of them apparently dropping from Obama's column. Romney had about 10 million people who refused to vote for Obama this time also refuse to vote for him. That can't be explained by Obama's handouts, only by a dislike of either Romney and/or Republicans that equalled their dislike of Obama and/or Democrats.

27 posted on 11/14/2012 3:18:16 PM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: tobyhill; kristinn; All

” - - - Mitt Romney blamed his overwhelming electoral loss on - - - “

WRONG!

Note to Romney: Here are a small sampling of the REAL reasons that you lost:

Never questioned Obama’s place of birth;
Never questioned Obama’s reasons for sealing his personal documents and school records;
Never Campaigned from the end of the Primary until people started early voting;
Never allowed The Father of the Tea Party to be involved in your Campaign;
You listened to your sorry Harvard top campaign advisors;
Ignored Moderator Bob Scheiffer when he delivered the election to you on a silver platter with his question to you about Benghazi as the first question in the third debate;
You, as the Father of Socialist Romney’care’ ran against the Father of Communist Obama’care.’
You NEVER ONCE went for the coup de gra’ce;
Every time that you got ahead, you relaxed and changed course;
You kept your advisors that had done a perfect job of designing a campaign to lose at all costs.
You sir, are just another loser RINO.

DUH! I’m surprised that you received as many votes as you did.

BTW, the only good thing that came out of your Primary and General Campaigns was HOW NOT TO RUN A CAMPAIGN!


28 posted on 11/14/2012 3:19:52 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: tobyhill

I blame the loss on Romney defeating each of his primary opponents by outspending them in key markets and then running up against someone with more cash than he has, and not having a Plan B (which, for his primary opponents, was their Plan A).


29 posted on 11/14/2012 3:20:28 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: tobyhill

Another reason they lost is because he didn’t point out that
Babies are a blessing not a curse. The HATERS on the left
are very intolerate to the human life that is living in the uterus. Can’t wait to kill them.

Then they promised rubbers to the women.
I guess a lot of blacks look at babies as a curse and want to have free rubbers because 94% of them voted for Obama.


30 posted on 11/14/2012 3:21:52 PM PST by DOGHEAD
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To: Venturer

He’s partly right and I understand not wanting to touch the fraud, don’t want the party to be called racist or sore losers. I, on the other hand, don’t care what I am called.


31 posted on 11/14/2012 3:26:46 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: tobyhill

Source:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/President/2012/1107/Youth-vote-decides-presidential-election-again.-Is-this-the-new-normal

32 posted on 11/14/2012 3:30:21 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Smile on Dems: Ignorance is bliss.)
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To: DOGHEAD

I don’t know if you were watching CBS on August 27, 2012, after Romney had won the nomination, and was asked about the party’s pro-life platform, and abortion.

PELLEY: Well, the platform as written at this convention for the Republicans does not allow for exceptions on abortion with regard to the health of the mother or rape or incest. Is that where you are?

ROMNEY: No. My position has been clear throughout this campaign. I’m in favor of abortion being legal in the case of rape and incest, and the health and life of the mother.


33 posted on 11/14/2012 3:31:15 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: JudyinCanada
Conservatives need to somehow take back publil educations

:irony:

34 posted on 11/14/2012 3:32:41 PM PST by ksen
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To: tobyhill

Why is he running to the NYT with this ? He and his staff screwed up and in doing so also screwed US

Expecting voters to know what’s going on and their reliance on MSM is just part of why our great loss. While there are examples of fraud which may close up the gap, the gap is too big to blame the loss on fraud ...Expecting GOP E’s to address media bias or Romney to call Obama a congenital liar or even point out that the fact and figures released by the white house were allways questionable is another . But the fault lies really in the messaging the Republican campaign gave. ..

Romney ran a “Johnny One Note Campaign”. Used a poison dart blow gun when he should have used a cannon loaded with grape shot because he had pleanty of stuff he could fill that cannon barrel with..

They failed to hammer away on what will happen when Obama gets returned; The Obama 2013/14 Tax Increases. The impact of Obama’s energy policies, and the related price..(a socialist construct never branded as such) was a bread and butter issue which reached into every “demographics” pocketbook...The impact of Supreme Court Appointments.. 18,000 new IRS agents and on and on. Including rampant corruption . Some were very briefly touched most weren’t and Benghazi was left to languish. Then there is Obama’s personal extravagance and behavior refusing to visit Nashville after its disaster showing up at New Orleans after Mitt visited it.

Instead we got a sales pitch on executive ability but not the reason why one should toss the old model and buy his. That print and tv pitch , 20 million new jobs, was given a discrarded dose of skepticism .

In addition Rove who I understand was handling the Charter PAC senate campaign played games. His material never warned voters that IF OBAMA GETS RE-ELECTED AND SENATE CONTROL REMAINED . .. OBAMACARE AND ALL THE TAX INCREASES THAT GO WITH IT WILL NEVER GET REPEALED Let alone tie into or cover the formentioned grape shot which would have perhaps changed that body. I don’t recall any of that material directed toward that fact.

Finally they didn’t believe the polls which turned out were dead on. Even going as far as setting up focus groups which could have looked into what’s going on . Even to the point of going out to local eateries and bars and eavesdrop into conversations and pick up on topics being discussed.(chat rooms twitter too contrived)

Our local small population (-8000) rural blue county GOP had at the outset good and growing attendence at their meetings 50 plus. At the meeting the Thursday before the election only about a dozen people showed up and I knew we were in trouble .

Nuts...This loss is inexcuseable, while I trully don’t believe Mitt Romney would never continence losing, I’m begining to wonder if many GOPE’s didn’t want to see O care go ..


35 posted on 11/14/2012 3:32:41 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("Vengence is mine".....Thus sayeth the Lord.)
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To: ilgipper
Looking at “Twitchy” there were preposterous rumors tweeted about Romney taking away food stamps, making birth control illegal, etc. People ARE that stupid and if they didn't vote someone voted for them.
36 posted on 11/14/2012 3:32:53 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: svcw

So, do you celebrate Obama getting another 4 years?


37 posted on 11/14/2012 3:34:33 PM PST by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: mosesdapoet

One thing I don’t think he explained well is that he wasn’t trying to make birth control illegal, he just believed that other people should not have to pay for it. I have said that to libs and then some of them get it.


38 posted on 11/14/2012 3:36:09 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: tobyhill

Romney made the mistake of addressing the electorate as adults who cherish liberty.

Obama had it right.. talk down to them like little needy children and dangle treats in front of them as a reward for good (voting) behavior.


39 posted on 11/14/2012 3:43:50 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Gator113

Why would I?


40 posted on 11/14/2012 3:50:18 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Rusty0604

Voters, Rusty0604 wrote:
“One thing I don’t think he explained well is that he wasn’t trying to make birth control illegal, he just believed that other people should not have to pay for it. I have said that to libs and then some of them get it.”

The premise your rebutting is a God-less Demo-coms construct diluted to that premise and promoted as such by the “MSM”.. The issue was the constitutional line created between church and state which Obama and the demo-coms crossed.


41 posted on 11/14/2012 3:52:19 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("Vengence is mine".....Thus sayeth the Lord.)
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To: ScottinVA

We all ran this entire campaign like it was 1980 again. That was our problem.

Most of us all thought that an incompetent boob like Obama could not be re-elected with such a poor economy.

But we learned it isn’t 1980 in America anymore. Pretty much everyone under the age of 30 doesn’t have any frame of reference to how much better things used to be. For them, as long as they’ve got healthcare, an IPhone, an Xbox and some buds to hang out with (and buds to smoke), they are fine.

And Obama used social media and smart phone technology to rev them up and get them out to the polls.


42 posted on 11/14/2012 3:58:22 PM PST by SteveAustin
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To: mosesdapoet

Your’e correct, but libs don’t understand it the way you explained it.


43 posted on 11/14/2012 4:02:03 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: ksen

lol - typing too fast!


44 posted on 11/14/2012 4:06:36 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: Rusty0604

If the party does not touch the fraud, they will have it again the next time. The people who engeaged in the fraud need to have some jail time.

You can bet the guilty parties are not black, but they are Democrats.


45 posted on 11/14/2012 4:09:11 PM PST by Venturer
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To: JediJones

Romney was disliked, I didn’t like him myself,but now we see what happens when you stay home. The next 4 years will be disastrous.

Obama has already gotten cocky enough to threaten the GOP over Susan Rice.

Why not he has seen what Republicans do when threatened, they cower.


46 posted on 11/14/2012 4:11:22 PM PST by Venturer
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Ditto. Key state initiatives can make the difference.
For example, I think the defeat of the Ohio ‘gay marriage’ initiative in 2004 saved Bush.


47 posted on 11/14/2012 4:12:48 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: tobyhill

Many, many ,many people warned over and over and over again that the GOP cannot win with a liberal. Romney knew that, but believed that the public could be fooled if he masqueraded as a severe conservative. The public wasn’t fooled. Romney could not steal enough liberals from Obama to make up for the conservatives he lost.


48 posted on 11/14/2012 4:13:39 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: mosesdapoet

Pretty spot on.


49 posted on 11/14/2012 4:15:37 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: tobyhill

I have felt exactly the same way as you for a while now. “Demographics have tipped to a point of no return” is dead on imho also. I think of it as a ‘compounding interest’ type thing. In 4 years it is gonna be exponentially just that much ‘worse’ as more of ‘em reach voting age and on the other end, huge numbers of those of the life long ‘old school’ non government dependent Americans will have passed. Sure, Romney could have fought better. Hell, I don’t have the answers, nobody does. A lot of reasons I guess but the compounding demographic issue is for front and will be from here on out due to simple math.


50 posted on 11/14/2012 4:31:35 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired high up in the mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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