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Report: Israel negotiating imminent cease-fire
The Jerusalem Post ^ | November 17,2012 | By JPOST.COM STAFF

Posted on 11/17/2012 2:29:39 PM PST by Hojczyk

Truce backed by Turkey, Qatar, Egypt, US, according to Channel 2 report; Egypt's Morsi says "some indications" of truce in Gaza, warns against ground invasion; Russo: Israel will continue until rockets destroyed.

Israel is currently negotiating a cease-fire with Palestinians in the Gaza Strip to take effect later in the night, sources told Channel 2 on Saturday night.

Egyptian President Mohamad Morsi gave credence to the report, saying there are "some indications" of a cease-fire in Gaza, but that there were not yet any guarantees.

"There are some indications that there is a possibility of a ceasefire soon, but we do not yet have firm guarantees," Morsi told a joint news conference with Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan, who was visiting Cairo.

"We are striving with all seriousness to stop this aggression, to reach a ceasefire. We call on everyone to adhere to what has been agreed upon, and we hope for an agreement on that at the earliest opportunity," said Morsi.

The agreement is backed by Turkey, Qatar, Egypt and the United States, according to Channel 2.

The Prime Minister's Office denied reports that Israel had sent an official to Cairo for the negotiations.

Just hours earlier, OC Southern Command Maj.-Gen. Tal Russo said Israel will continue the operation in Gaza until it achieves its goals of destroying the arsenal threatening our civilians.

"During the operation, we have destroyed some of a massive terrorists arsenal aimed at Israeli civilians, and the operation has not yet finished" Russo said. "This operation will continue more than a couple days."

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1 posted on 11/17/2012 2:29:51 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Any “cease-fire” negotiated with the Muslim Brotherhood, the force behind this assault on Israel, is just because they had to have time to reload their launch vehicles....

Logistics is such a beyatch in these third world countries.


2 posted on 11/17/2012 2:39:59 PM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: Hojczyk

This silly cease-fire will tell me if Israel has learned her lessons.


3 posted on 11/17/2012 2:42:34 PM PST by conservativepoet
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To: conservativepoet

How much pressure is there on Israel from the US to agree?


4 posted on 11/17/2012 2:48:14 PM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: conservativepoet

If you invade, do you even find all the missile stores?

Is this an exercise in futility? Probably so, but then in an absurd world, reason itself becomes somewhat absurd.

Expand on what you think Israel should do. It may make more sense then it seems on first blush.


5 posted on 11/17/2012 2:48:37 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: Hojczyk

Haven
‘t they learned anything?


6 posted on 11/17/2012 2:52:10 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Hojczyk

Hamas needs to resupply.


7 posted on 11/17/2012 2:56:41 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: CondorFlight

A Hell of a lot of pressure, I assume.

Netenyahu is hopefully ignoring our nationial idiot all the time giving him reassurances.


8 posted on 11/17/2012 2:57:37 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Hojczyk

Actually, I think the cease fire gives Israel some time to get more Iron Dome batteries built and deployed, as well as more interceptors. They’ve been kind of taking their time, but now they know the systems work and they’ve had a chance to see what the terrorists have to offer. They can use this downtime to tweak their programing and speed up production.


9 posted on 11/17/2012 2:58:31 PM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: Hojczyk

A cease fire short of destroying all of Hamas’ military capabilities would be a victory for the terrorists. The “international community” will cheer and make speeches. The Israelis will abide by the cease fire and the Palestinians will rearm to kill again.


10 posted on 11/17/2012 3:01:13 PM PST by Truth29
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To: BobL

I believe Bibi will do whatever he believes will be best for for the survival his nation.


11 posted on 11/17/2012 3:02:32 PM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
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To: Hojczyk
Hamas started this thing. How is Israel going to negotiate with terrorists? Never an option. I'd suspect this is being leaked to try and push Netanyahu into a corner. As if he is the unreasonable one if he doesn't go for a cease fire.

Regardless, the Lord willing, Israel will soon cut the head off the snake and then where will Hamas get their rockets from?

12 posted on 11/17/2012 3:12:49 PM PST by 444Flyer
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To: BobL

They just intercepted one a few hours ago..


13 posted on 11/17/2012 3:13:05 PM PST by txhurl (i hate rats)
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To: McGruff

As well he should. So, the MSM and many countries are against Israel. Here’s a question......of ALL these “cease fires”, has Israel EVER been the one to break them?” I sure cant recall them ever doing so. So, why are so many against them? It seems even the American Jews are against them.....at least the 69% who voted for OblameA.


14 posted on 11/17/2012 3:20:26 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Hojczyk
I used to think Israel had more brains than that to allow Gaza to replenish. Their border with Egypt is the supply line. It is obvious that the government of Israel is not too bright.
15 posted on 11/17/2012 3:29:34 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Hojczyk
Not to talk out of turn or anything, but what if Israel is negotiating the cease fire in order that they can (within minutes of the signing, while the Islamicists are all cheering) kick the living sh*t out of Iran?

Cheers!

16 posted on 11/17/2012 3:40:09 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: DoughtyOne

D1, anything short of carpet bombing the entire Gaza strip and then buldozing the rubble and the bodies into the Med is a half measure and will not end this cycle.

If the muslim brotherhood loves their palestinian fellow jihadis so much, let Egypt take any Hamas loving resident of Gza that chooses to leave after 24 hour notice from Israel.


17 posted on 11/17/2012 3:41:50 PM PST by L,TOWM (No one in the US is free of the spirit of entitlement)
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To: Hojczyk
It is just wonderful how peaceful our Nobel Peace Prize winning President has made the middle east.

Israel and Syria exchange fire in Golan

BTW - They do not know if they were Syrian regulars or Obama Terrorist Insurgents that fired upon Israel. As far as the Israeli's should be concerned, is there really much of a difference ?

18 posted on 11/17/2012 4:57:39 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Hojczyk

Psst, Israel, don’t trust them.


19 posted on 11/17/2012 5:30:42 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: L,TOWM; MinuteGal; oswegodeee

Israel must go into Gaza and clean out as much of their missile stockpiles as possible. And kill as many Hamas terrorist leaders as possible. They need to decrease the attack capability of Hamas (in league with Iran) in order to neutralize any attacks from Gaza for when they go after Iran and bomb their nuclear facilities.

Israel doesn’t want war on many fronts, so in neutralizing Gaza, that eliminates one source of counter attack if they go after Iran’s nuclear facilities. Hamas is in league with Iran, and would counter attack on their behalf if Israel bombs Iran’s nuclear sites, so getting the Pali’s (Hamas) out of the way now gives Israel one leg up later, when it goes after Iran.

Israel will still be vulnerable to attack from Lebanon, but one front to have to fight on is better than two. Eliminate one of them now, namely Gaza. Gives Israel much better odds in the long run. Israel must eliminate as much danger from the Hamas front as possible, right now.


20 posted on 11/17/2012 5:36:12 PM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: Hojczyk

Um, Egypt wants a cease fire? Weren’t rockets fired from Egypt?


21 posted on 11/17/2012 6:32:05 PM PST by Silentgypsy (If you love your freedom, thank a vet.)
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To: Silentgypsy
Um, Egypt wants a cease fire? Weren’t rockets fired from Egypt?

Yup.

It looks like nobody wants Israeli ground troops going in there to get those weapons. Wonder if it might be inconvenient to someone for us to find exactly what they are, and where they came from.

22 posted on 11/17/2012 6:40:55 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

That is a very intriguing thought. Thanks!


23 posted on 11/17/2012 6:55:22 PM PST by Silentgypsy (If you love your freedom, thank a vet.)
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To: L,TOWM

At various times I have voiced something similar. It’s something I’m not entirely comfortable with, although times come and go where I see it as likely the only answer.

My reasoning generally focuses on an explanation, a lamenting of no resolution to the problem, and a plan instituted to put an end to the constant turmoil.

Make no mistake about it though, moving the Arabs off the West Bank and Gaza makes Israel a viable bulls-eye.

Right now, it would be literally impossible to use nukes on Israel, without killing the Arabs on the West Bank and Gaza too.


24 posted on 11/18/2012 12:34:49 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: DoughtyOne
If you invade, do you even find all the missile stores? Is this an exercise in futility? Probably so, but then in an absurd world, reason itself becomes somewhat absurd. Expand on what you think Israel should do. It may make more sense then it seems on first blush.

Plus, a lot of available missiles and arms may not even be stored in Gaza. I'm wondering if this latest deal is an attempt to get Israel to use up a large portion of it's anti-missile armaments and divert them for something even more sinister to be acted on. Morsi is playing both sides - calling Israel's defense of herself "unacceptable" and now making noise about cease-fires. Syria and Iran are probably polishing plans to keep Israel from trying to stop the nukes, and Obozo probably has more Benghazi-type "ambassadors" stirring the pot.

25 posted on 11/18/2012 4:51:51 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I’m not comfortable with the idea of genocide myself. In fact, I find the horror of the conclusion I draw make me loathe myself a little bit.

On the other side of the coin is the conclusion I draw about Islam itself; that the entire cult is incompatible with civilization as 5 Billion of the rest of us understand it. I do not allow my thoughts to progess much further than that — If I did, I just might take up drinking again.


26 posted on 11/18/2012 10:55:09 AM PST by L,TOWM (No one in the US is free of the spirit of entitlement)
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To: trebb

Yes, you’re right. They may not be in Gaza. Your thought that this may be a way to deplete anti-missile missiles is also a valid point.

You just don’t know do you.

As for Syria, Iran, and Obozo, I hear ya.


27 posted on 11/18/2012 11:08:03 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: L,TOWM

Actually, my plans involve evacuating the people on the West Bank and Gaza. Just herd them over to Jordan, Syria, and Egypt. Let them deal with the people who will never be happy again.

Those nations know what they’d be dealing with. They don’t want them. They’ve already caused problems in Lebanon and Jordan that I know of.


28 posted on 11/18/2012 11:18:25 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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