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Both Sides Must Give Ground To Avoid Fiscal Cliff
Townhall.com ^ | November 17, 2012 | Michael Barone

Posted on 11/19/2012 12:21:54 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Christie at the beach

“If they wimp out and increase the taxes....”

Taxes will increase automaticaly. There is nothing the Pubs can do to stop it.


21 posted on 11/19/2012 4:02:45 AM PST by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Kaslin

Going over this “cliff” isn’t a bad idea. The thing is, if Jan 1st rolls around, Republicans better not then give in as Obama would have got his tax increase AND would get credit from the stupid half of our country. If we have to pay, let’s make it hurt them too. NO NEGOTIATION.


22 posted on 11/19/2012 4:04:51 AM PST by Dragonspirit (Always remember President Token won only by defecting on his CFR pledge.)
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter

This doesn’t matter. Obama will get what he wants. The Republicans will claim a win for their Rockefeller republican friends. This middle class will once again get screwed. The debt ceiling will go up to 17.5 trillion.

Democrats will use the tax increase to hammer Repiblicans in 2014. Democrats take house. Harry Reid nukes the filibuster rule. Two more lib judges go to SCOTUS.

Kiss energy, heath care, insurance industries goodbye. Get ready to see all those rounds of ammunition purchased going to a new “national police force.” And get ready for the shortages of food and gasoline and a depletion of our oil reserves.


23 posted on 11/19/2012 4:24:43 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (George W. Bush is the Emmanuel Goldsten of the modern era.)
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To: Kaslin
STFU mikey... your arse was wrong about the election and you are wrong about this... or you are just another paid liar for the two party ruling junta.

LLS

24 posted on 11/19/2012 4:27:07 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: silverleaf

I never understood how one group of people could be taxed at a higher rate than others to begin with. I thought there was an equal protection clause in the Constitution?

I say the Republicans should up the ante. They should suggest a tax rate of 98% on everyone making over Hussein’s magic $250K number.

Two things could happen. 1) The Demcrats blink and lose the whole “soak the rich” argument or 2)revolution ensues (funded by the wealthy, of course).


25 posted on 11/19/2012 4:33:36 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: FerociousRabbit

They should suggest a tax rate of 5% on everyone making over $20k. Everyone must pay.

Fairness is not...... being poor and participating in American society.


26 posted on 11/19/2012 4:41:42 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Kaslin

We can go over the cliff or slide down the cliff slowly. Either way we end up at the bottom.


27 posted on 11/19/2012 4:43:18 AM PST by Venturer
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To: FerociousRabbit

I really like that idea. The Democrats’ entire wealth envy argument would collapse.


28 posted on 11/19/2012 4:44:47 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Kaslin

Anything bad that happens will be blamed on the Republicans.


29 posted on 11/19/2012 4:47:09 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Kaslin

I already give too much as it is.


30 posted on 11/19/2012 4:49:55 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: Kaslin

Barone can kiss my ass. My wish would be that the Republicans fight obama every inch of the way. But, then again, If the Republicans had the guts to fight, they would not be Republicans, would they?


31 posted on 11/19/2012 4:52:53 AM PST by sport
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To: I want the USA back

I wished people would wake up and see the truth


32 posted on 11/19/2012 4:53:33 AM PST by Kaslin ( One Big Ass Mistake America (Make that Two))
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To: Kaslin

Any new tax will NOT go to the reduction of debt. It will be immediately spent to prop up government union pensions and support new social programs.

The debt will continue to climb until the economy crashes and it will all be blamed the republicans.

Check mate.


33 posted on 11/19/2012 4:57:55 AM PST by PJammers (I can't help it... It's my idiom!)
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To: Kaslin

Some have.As the election results demonestrated, most ,as longas they still receive their freebies, don’t give a damn.


34 posted on 11/19/2012 5:00:08 AM PST by sport
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To: Kaslin

It’s not a matter of “sides.” It’s a matter of irresponsible policies of spending $3.5 trillion a year, done by both the Republicrats and the Democans.


35 posted on 11/19/2012 5:21:59 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: Kaslin

It’s not a matter of “sides.” It’s a matter of irresponsible policies of spending $3.5 trillion a year, done by both the Republicrats and the Democans.


36 posted on 11/19/2012 5:22:08 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: SatinDoll

Indeed, this man has been working toward the collapse of America since he entered community organizing.

The only way to avoid a totalitarian outcome on this thing is for as many people as possible to be as self sufficient as possible.

When your kids are hungry and you can’t feed them otherwise, you’ll accept a “little more” control in order to be fed. If you don’t have to worry about that, you can tell the “helpers” from the gov’t to pound sand.


37 posted on 11/19/2012 5:27:54 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: mosesdapoet

Leftists and Muslims have a lot in common.

Leftists have the goal of total control and communism.
Muslims have the goal of total submission to Islam or extermination.

They’ll take any concession you give them, but they never “concede” their end goal.

Sure, we’ll take X as a compromise.
We still are going to insist on our final goal.


38 posted on 11/19/2012 5:30:40 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

How does Michael Barone have any credibility at this point?


39 posted on 11/19/2012 5:40:17 AM PST by Arm_Bears (The MSM lies about liberals, and it lies about conservatives.)
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To: Kaslin
“Both Sides Must Give Ground To Avoid Fiscal Cliff”

R I G H T !

How about the Democrats must keep their prior agreements first?

Can anyone, other than the political pundits, give an example of the Democrats keeping their agreements with Republicans over the last, lets say, 50 years?

The art of governing is one of compromise and trust. Unfortunately for the Republic there hasn't been a compromise that the Democrats have kept. This means that the term trust should be translated as “I trust the Democrats to break their compromise within 10 seconds.”

You can not solve a problem if you don't accurately describe it. So, why can't our pundits accurately describe the Democrat's behavior over the last half century?

40 posted on 11/19/2012 5:56:02 AM PST by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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