Skip to comments.MSNBC host tells Israeli amb. Hamas rockets 'rarely do damage'"response...is disproportional"
Posted on 11/19/2012 10:23:05 AM PST by Ooh-Ah
(Sharona Schwartz) Beyond its military operation targeting the Hamas terrorist infrastructure in Gaza, Israel is invested in an intense media campaign to make sure its side of the story is being heard overseas. But thats not always easy to do.
In an interview with Israels top envoy to the United States on Saturday, MSNBC provided yet another example of how much work Israeli officials face in their effort to pass through the filter of the mainstream media and present their side of the story.
MSNBCs Mara Schiavocampo began her interview of Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren straightforwardly enough, asking What would be the trigger for a ground operation? Whats the red line here?
Oren answered, You have the equivalent of what would be about 170 million Americans under bomb shelters. If Hamas continues to escalate we will take the necessary and legitimate measures to defend our citizens.
Schiavocampos second question might be considered more controversial, positing the argument that long-range rockets carrying warheads weighing between 20 and 90 kilograms 46 to 198 pounds arent actually dangerous to human life. She asked:
Living under the threat of rocket attack is certainly a psychological trauma. But what would you say to those who argue that the rockets are essentially very ineffective, they rarely do damage and that the response from Israelis is disproportional to the threat theyre under.
Oren answered she might want to pose that question to the three Israelis killed by a rocket in Kiryat Malachi on Thursday (see TheBlazes story here and Glenn Becks segment looking at media bias and profiling the victims here). Oren suggested Schiavocampo envisage what would happen if Hamas were bombing America. He said:
Imagine if one rocket had fallen in the United States and not now since the year 2009, our last operation, weve had something in the vicinity of 8,000 rockets fall on the State of Israel. Thats more than twice all of the German rockets that fell on London during World War II. And you saw how the British and Americans reacted to that.
Schiavocampo then posited that because the number of rocket attacks on Israel has dramatically increased since 2009, Israels policy has been a failure. By way of comparison, she did not attribute the increase in attacks to other possibilities including: Hamas feeling more emboldened since its ideological ally, the Muslim Brotherhood, took control of next-door Egypt or that its ties have only grown stronger with Iran, which provides its long-range Fajr-5 missiles. She asked Oren:
You mentioned the amount of rocket attacks that have been seen in Israel. In 2009 that number was about 200 and this year its been about 700 despite the fact that weve been down this road again that Israel has responded with military force in the past. So does this show that Israel s policy towards Gaza has been a failure?
Oren said that after 12,000 rocket attacks in the past 12 years on Israeli civilians, We have no option and nor would any other country in the world have an option but to defend our citizens by all necessary and legitimate means.
Watch the MSNBC interview with Michael Oren here:
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So 13,000 Hamas missiles launched by Muslim terrorists and at an accelerating rate in this decade is chump change because the victim targets are Israeli civilians? Jewish lives are cheap to MSNBC staff.
Tv. For the 47 percent
Or just a bump in the road as Dear Leader would say.
we need a site or a party which calls these idiots out once and for all.
Name names, show their biased, run ADs and let the country know how corrupt this thing we call the media are.
There are about 1,200,000,000 Muslims in the World.
There are about 12,000,000 Jews in the World.
For every Jew killed, to be “FAIR”, the Jews have to kill 100 Muslims.
Disproportional? I think the Israelis are obligated to kill every Gazan for “Proportionality” to have been achieved.
She should be on BET
I had to re-read that 2x. I *almost* spit-out my lunch.
Soooooo, if someone’s wildly shooting at you, with a “mere” .22lr round and misses 5-of-6x, but only flesh-wounds you, there’s no sound reason to return fire and kill the POS, before s/he reloads the revolver’s cylinder? Her empty head is a target-rich environment.
Schiavocampo = DUMBASS LIB-DEM MORON!
Geez, I wonder how we would react if Mexico started to fire rockets at us?
(of course, under Obama who knows)
hamas and the muslim brotherhood are the terrorist organizations of Iran and MSLSD is their propaganda outlet...along with the BBC and CNN and ABC and CBS. Israel is trying to get their message out through all possible means, but if I were them I would just stick to Fox News and social media. The IDF videos are very powerful and any sane person can see how far Israel goes to limit civilian deaths, even when those same “civilians” look the other way when hamas fires rockets at Israel.
I have to say that I don’t like questions that begin, “What do you say to those who say/think....” My response would be: “Gather them up and I will address their concerns face to face,” or “Just who are those who say/think this? Are you one of them?”
I would love to see the Mossad unleashed on the Liberal , Israel hating , American Left
Reporter; “General Kelly isn’t this like trying to kill a fly with a sledgehammer?”
General Kelly:” In my opinion that’s a delightful way to kill a fly.”
The Ambassador should call the talking head a complete fool and walk out of the building.
Using that tortuous reasoning, an ineffective response by Israel would be appropriate.
How many hundred bullets would Mara let an insane neighbor fire randomly at her house, “since they rarely are fatal?”
At this late point in the game I'll tell you who is stuck on stupid,
ANY conservativeof ANY stripe from ANYWHERE on this planet that agrees to go on MSNBC for an interview.
Stay away from these vile creatures!
Yes, and I would add, "Can you name their names and quote them? Or are you just inventing them to suit your own narrative?"
I have zero respect for these so-called "reporters" from American Pravda. Throw their lies and biases straight back in their lying faces.
“Maria Schiavocampo - fulfills some need to the network or is another Affirmative Action Hero.”
I’d say she is an Affirmative Action Retard.
Thank you. How stupid can these people be?
You're walking down the sidewalk with your wife and young son. Some thug-assed punk walks up and punches your wife and slaps your son to the ground. According to this stupidbitch you're supposed to stop and think of a 'proportional response'?!?
Nope. The thug just made a lethal error in judgement. Exact same code of ethics apply here.
Hmmm,,, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess that twenty-something twit Mara Schiavocampo has never experienced the pleasure of being under a 122mm rocket attack.