Posted on 11/20/2012 9:22:03 AM PST by smoothsailing
You sound EXACTLY like Democrats after their 2002 midterm and 2004 presidential election losses. This is what they attributed their defeats to. In fact, it spawned all sorts of nutty conspiracy sites like BlackBoxVoting (most run by frauds). If you visited a liberal forum at that time almost all they could talk about was how Diebold electronic voting machines were being hacked by rich Republicans. They simply could not accept they were losing elections. Now, sadly, I am seeing some of the same thing here and in other conservative circles. People simply do not want to accept that the majority are simply not with us at the moment.
Exactly correct kenny, but as this thread shows they really don't get it.
The fraud is easiest if it is a close race. Even if the race is not close a bunch of fake polls can make it look that way. Polling and voting machines are a tyrants dream.
>> “Someone once said, if voting really mattered they wouldn’t let us do it.” <<
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Ain’t that the truth!
Ever notice how Longblow1969 is always on the socialist side of everything?
Oh sure Democrats never cheat they are the salt of the Earth. You can have a love fest with them all you like and you can beleive they are upstanding citizens I will beleive otherwise.
Electorial votes are what win, and 500,000 votes in key areas are all that was required.
I notice you misspell his name the same way I used to. He is beyond help.
And Obama got millions less votes than 2008, while the GOP couldn’t turn out any more voters than McCain got. The odds of that being cheating would seem remote.
Maybe because the House Republicans will be blamed for everything since bills are generated from the House or should be.
How lucky there is still a scapegoat for Obama and OLD OLD Reid fancy that.
“The problem with this option is, ultimately, how do you make this case to the “Euro” audience (in order to maximize their vote) without attracting the lunatic fringe, genuine haters, true racists, etc. We really don’t want a bunch of Aryan Nations types make inroads in the conservative movement.”
I’ll respond by asking, how do the Republicans make their case in states like Mississippi or Alabama RIGHT NOW?
Romney got 89% of “the Euro vote” in Mississippi, and he received 84% of their vote in Alabama, if I recall correctly.
And in both those states, there are “minority populations” that amount to something like 35% of the population or more. But the Pubbies win anyway, and they win easily.
Obviously, the party down there is doing something right. You may call them “racis’”, you may call them whatever you wish. But they are winning.
“Ultimately”, we must “make the case” to the Euros elsewhere the same way that it has been made to those of Dixie.
We don’t need overwhelming numbers (yet). What we DO need is a percentage increase from, say, 59% to 65% , especially in those critical states where it can make a difference. And in those very “critical states”, the populations are heavily Euro (unlike states like California, New Mexico, Illinois, New York, which in all likelihood will never vote for a Republican presidential candidate again).
Whatever is being done in the deep south right now WORKS.
Let’s make it work elsewhere for us.
Yes, sure, the "GOPe" is trying to cover up a fraud that cost them the election. And all these conservative think tanks and judicial watchdog groups on our side - are they part of this conspiracy to paper over the Democrats election fraud. This is the kind of loopy conspiracy theory most commonly found on InfoWars. Democrats also believed in this elaborate voting machine conspiracy theory when they were losing.
Romney had to have beaten Obama by several million votes or the split in the house votes wouldn’t make any sense
You really have no idea what you are talking about. None. In fact, I can't remember you posting anything sensible at all. Ever. Sorry to say that, but it's true. Aren't you also into the birther conspiracy nonsense?
First, Democratic House candidates won the popular vote. Were you even aware of this? More Americans went to the polls to vote for the Democrat House candidate than did the Republican House candidate. We won because of redistricting. It's part of why we struggle in statewide contests. We've simply done a tremendous job of gerrymandering districts to our benefit - and we are aided by African Americans who want nearly all black districts so they can be guaranteed black representation in Congress.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2012
House Democrats won a narrow plurality of the nation-wide vote,[5][6] and according to an analysis by the nonpartisan organization FairVote, about 52% of voters preferred Democratic candidates,[7] but House Republicans were able to retain a solid majority due to their advantage in the congressional redistricting process following the 2010 United States Census, and because of population distribution and many Democratic votes concentrated into urban and minority districts. The last time the majority party in the House was unable to receive a plurality of the popular vote was in 1996, where the GOP kept the House for similar reasons.[8][9]
Second, ticket splitting is common. Were you aware that the Democrats controlled the House for nearly 50 years straight. Through all those Presidents including Nixon, Ford and Reagan, the Democrats controlled the House. Even IF more Americans voted for a Republican House, and they didn't, you can't divine anything from that.
We did not lose this election because of vote fraud. More Americans went to the voting booths and voted for Democrats on a national level. We have far more takers than makers now. We've become much more of a European social welfare state, and our people are voting accordingly. Europeans went down this path, what on earth convinces you that American's simply aren't doing the same? Especially given that we are importing huge numbers of poor Hispanics from a country (Mexico) that voted for the Socialists PRI party for 70 years straight. We have more and more Hispanics and they like big government.
> “Aren’t you also into the birther conspiracy nonsense?” <<
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The nonsense is all yours.
Even Obama’s brother and cousins swear he was born in Kenya, moron.
Your trolling here is beyond insane. You are without effect here; we all know what you are.
Deny the fraud all you wish, the evidence is strong, as is the anger of the American public at this crime.
The democrats have republicans bagged and caged..
They really are cowardly Lions.. rusty Tin-men, Silly Scarecrows and totally naive little girls..
Just follow the Yellow Brick Road.. FORWARD..
Never forget “DIRTY GERTY”.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I believe that the RINOs at RNC did things to make sure West lost. Redistricting his electoral district was one of them. I also believe the RINOs at RNC gave tghe Obama campaign and the liberal fascists any intell they could that would help defeat West.
A conservative black man is unwanted in the Republican party. A balck man who is Republican has to be progressive , or he must be outed.Thats it folks.
It is SO Tea Party time.
>> “It is SO Tea Party time.” <<
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Yes, indeed it is!
An ocean full of TEA.
He’s young. And America’s story is far from over.
If West can’t win...we are doomed.
FL can drop dead. I will NEVER spend a dime there again.
So as expected, you've got nothing.
I just blew your theory that the House results proved election fraud to pieces, and the best you can do is spout more birther conspiracy slop.
Your trolling here is beyond insane
Ah, crawling into your normal refuge. When your silly claims are debunked you start shouting "troll" and attempt to get people banned. Pathetic.
Yes and Yes!
We’ve not seen the last of the good Colonel West!
You didn’t even blow your own nose.
Your lies only garnish your delight at the destruction of the America that you so despise.
Find somewhere where you belong.
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