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They Are Going To Make It Nearly Impossible To Pass On A Farm Or A Business To Your Children
TEC ^ | 11-21-2012 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 11/21/2012 9:39:04 AM PST by blam

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To: dennisw
Government Sets Its Sights on Private Retirement Accounts: “Giant Effort to Redistribute the Wealth of America’s Older Citizens”
21 posted on 11/21/2012 10:40:32 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

Part of UN Agenda-21. Can’t wait for them to apply tax to the empty rooms in your house.

Every empty room in your house could collect rent so .gov will assign a value to it then tax you on what you should be making in rent.

They want to make it too expensive to own property. This will drive everyone to live in “mixed use” developments where you can be better accounted for and controlled.

Welcome to the future


22 posted on 11/21/2012 10:41:46 AM PST by PJammers (I can't help it... It's my idiom!)
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To: I want the USA back
The only ones who will be able to accumulate some money are the liberal elite. They wrote the laws and know how to get around them or just ignore them.

Don't leave out their owning of the CONgress.

23 posted on 11/21/2012 10:49:15 AM PST by Digger
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To: PJammers
"Part of UN Agenda-21"

The John Birch Society has been raising the alarm about Agenda-21 for at least 20 years.

Seems to be a hot topic now.

24 posted on 11/21/2012 10:50:01 AM PST by blam
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To: concerned about politics

My thought for our sons is to have a lease/purchase deal. You could gift them back the non-taxable amount that you can give each year.

Is there anything against the law with selling it to them cheap, under the going price?


25 posted on 11/21/2012 10:50:15 AM PST by tiki
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To: Jayster

A business entity like an LLC is perpetual, and you just change out the management of it. This change of management can be written into the articles of incorporation.

So, the parents manage the LLC which owns the property,
then upon death, management passes on to the inheritors.
It’s not that hard to set it up, but I’m sure if too many start doing it, depriving the gov’t of its “due”, they’ll find a way to keep the common folk from doing it.


26 posted on 11/21/2012 10:53:25 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Truth2012
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27 posted on 11/21/2012 10:56:19 AM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: blam

These folks need to get educated on and start setting their properties up in trusts. Trusts are how the elites manage and keep their wealth within their family lineages.


28 posted on 11/21/2012 11:00:18 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Jayster

I do not know all the specifics but by the time my grandparents both passed, they had signed over all properties and accounts to their only child, my mother. I remember hearing that it had to be in her name for seven (I think it was seven) years or the government would still try and take a cut under the argument that the assets were trying to be hidden from them, but after seven years they no longer had a case. It worked out well for our family and my parents have occasionally mentioned that they have learned a lot from the experience and also have a plan to securely pass property to my sister and I down the road. But we aren’t even close to that time yet, thank God. Like you suggested Jayster, the trick is just to stay way out in front of it with a good plan.


29 posted on 11/21/2012 11:07:45 AM PST by Casie (Chuck Norris 2016)
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To: blam

Reference Bump.


30 posted on 11/21/2012 11:16:00 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Jayster

I am an attorney in Minnesota. There are some techniques you can undertake to try to pass wealth along, but those techniques only partially offset the pain. A plan for a large estate (greater than $10 million) needs to be implemented well in advance of death in order to take advantage of the planning techniques that are still available. If you are dealing with a very significant estate (not that $10 million isn’t very significant), the owner really needs to hustle, be aggressive, and stay on top of the changes that occur.

In Minnesota, we also have a state Death Tax that kicks in at $1.0 million. That impacts a WHOLE lot of people - many who don’t even realize they’re in that camp. (401k, real estate, life insurance, vehicles, etc — it adds up pretty quickly)

There is still the ability to gift to charity an unlimited amount - if it comes down to the government taking it or a charity receiving it... well, I know which one would end up with mine!

For the record, selling it prior to death would likely trigger crippling capital gains taxes - or gift taxes if the property was sold for less than fair market value. Then you have to figure out a plan for the cash... Passing it to the heirs (along with a stepped-up cost basis) would likely be much more prudent.


31 posted on 11/21/2012 11:22:20 AM PST by mn-bush-man
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To: Axenolith

You have to watch out for a trust, though, especially if it’s managed by a bank or management company.

Their goal, more times than not, is to drain it as fast as possible and get it off their books.


32 posted on 11/21/2012 11:24:05 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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A business entity like an LLC is perpetual, and you just change out the management of it. This change of management can be written into the articles of incorporation.

Yes, but somebody has to "own" the business entity or LLC. Since the parent most likely has full ownership of the business, that is an asset passed down to the children and is subject to the death tax. It would also be considered an "asset" in a personal bankruptcy that could be liquidated by the court.
33 posted on 11/21/2012 11:24:42 AM PST by nonamer
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But doesn’t the estate still have to pay taxes?


34 posted on 11/21/2012 11:24:56 AM PST by tiki
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To: blam

Well, young people voted for all this. They’ll be shocked by their structured poverty and oppression when they get older.

Commies will pile their oppression high and harden it by transfering power to the UN.


35 posted on 11/21/2012 11:27:14 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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We set our parents’ up differently, and for different reasons. They weren’t the owners, and some of us kids managed it.

The problem is that they didn’t understand how it worked, and we got a lot of resistance after all the paperwork was signed.

So, set yours up while you’re still cognizant.


36 posted on 11/21/2012 11:27:47 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: blam
Rampant INjustice
37 posted on 11/21/2012 11:31:53 AM PST by blam
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To: taxcontrol

I wonder how many farmers voted for Zer0 and his fellow DemonRAT legislatures? This rule will hit them and they will still be in denial.


38 posted on 11/21/2012 11:36:38 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of other people's money.)
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To: blam

Despite claims otherwise, the Left is also hostile towards small business owners. Note the Occupy zombies smashing windows of small privately owned businesses. When told that the owners of the businesses were not part of the “one percenters”, the reply was the owners had more than most other “99 percenters”. This is the same reasoning that Stalin used on the kulaks.

The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.


39 posted on 11/21/2012 11:46:12 AM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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40 posted on 11/21/2012 12:01:14 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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