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Krauthammer: Why Was There War in Gaza?
National Review Online ^ | November 22, 2012 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 11/23/2012 1:44:50 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Why was there an Israel–Gaza war in the first place? Resistance to the occupation, say Hamas and many in the international media.

What occupation? Seven years ago, in front of the world, Israel pulled out of Gaza. It dismantled every settlement, withdrew every soldier, evacuated every Jew, leaving nothing and no one behind. Except for the greenhouses in which the settlers had grown fruit and flowers for export. These were left intact to help Gaza’s economy — only to be trashed when the Palestinians took over.

Israel then declared its border with Gaza to be an international frontier, meaning that it renounced any claim to the territory and considered it an independent entity. In effect, Israel had created the first Palestinian state ever, something never granted by fellow Muslims — neither the Ottoman Turks nor the Egyptians who brutally occupied Gaza for two decades before being driven out by Israel in the 1967 Six-Day War.

Israel wanted nothing more than to live in peace with this independent Palestinian entity. After all, the world had incessantly demanded that Israel give up land for peace.

It gave the land. It got no peace.

The Gaza Palestinians did not reciprocate. They voted in Hamas, who then took over in a military putsch and turned their newly freed Palestine into an armed camp from which to war against Israel. It has been war ever since.

Interrupted by the occasional truce, to be sure. But for Hamas a truce — hudna — is simply a tactic for building strength for the next round. It is never meant to be enduring, never meant to offer peace.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: egyptmb; gaza; gazaceasefire; gazaphotofraud; gazaphotos; islamism; israel; krauthammer; morsi; muslimbrotherhood
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1 posted on 11/23/2012 1:44:55 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

BUMP


2 posted on 11/23/2012 1:49:06 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Krath nails it.....I am sure a host of the MSM will denounce this truth as hatred...


3 posted on 11/23/2012 1:56:45 AM PST by Popman
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Photo Fraud in Gaza
4 posted on 11/23/2012 1:58:37 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Krauthammer again is again correct! Hamas is the cancer and will remain so until eliminated. Cancers don’t go away by writing a peace accord. Harsh treatment is the only way to fight them...believe me, I’m a cancer survivor!


5 posted on 11/23/2012 2:00:54 AM PST by 2010Freeper
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Krauthammer again is again correct! Hamas is the cancer and will remain so until eliminated. Cancers don’t go away by writing a peace accord. Harsh treatment is the only way to fight them...believe me, I’m a cancer survivor!


6 posted on 11/23/2012 2:00:54 AM PST by 2010Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Thank you very much!


7 posted on 11/23/2012 2:22:25 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bkmk


8 posted on 11/23/2012 2:22:47 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Gaza was beautiful. The new occupants made it into a sewer.

Israel should never again cede one more inch of its precious homeland.


9 posted on 11/23/2012 2:24:01 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Seven years ago, in front of the world, Israel pulled out of Gaza. It dismantled every settlement, withdrew every soldier, evacuated every Jew, leaving nothing and no one behind. Except for the greenhouses in which the settlers had grown fruit and flowers for export. These were left intact to help Gaza’s economy — only to be trashed when the Palestinians took over.

It was sad seeing Jews being ripped out of their homes by their own countrymen. It was sad to see how the greenhouses were trashed by people boiling over with irrational hatred for the Jews.

Except for the few who insisted that "land for peace" would work, most people predicted that Gaza would just give the terrorists more land from which to attempt to destroy Israel.

There were zero credible arguments that land for peace would work for a minute. Why does our country keep doing this?

10 posted on 11/23/2012 2:55:23 AM PST by olezip
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The Egyptian Arabs living in Gaza should be expelled to their homeland of Egypt, and the West Bank Arabs should be expelled to their native homeland of Jordan.


11 posted on 11/23/2012 3:34:25 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (Pray for Joe Biden- Proverbs 29:9)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
RE :”Why was there an Israel–Gaza war in the first place? Resistance to the occupation, say Hamas and many in the international media.
What occupation? Seven years ago, in front of the world, Israel pulled out of Gaza. It dismantled every settlement, withdrew every soldier, evacuated every Jew, leaving nothing and no one behind. Except for the greenhouses in which the settlers had grown fruit and flowers for export. These were left intact to help Gaza’s economy — only to be trashed when the Palestinians took over. “

Land for Peace ping!

Those peace loving Gaza Palestinians are so misunderstood.

12 posted on 11/23/2012 3:37:16 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The terrorists OBEY Obama their leader.

Obama-the-Undocumented is now
Obama-the-documentedterrorist-supporter.


13 posted on 11/23/2012 3:54:42 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: onyx

You are welcome onyx. I despise the lying MSM with a passion!


14 posted on 11/23/2012 3:56:38 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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To: Popman

Kraut is correct, but the BULK of the media doesn’t give a damn about history.

Even in Florida, where there is a large Jewish population, the media tends to be anti-Israel. Even some Jewish people don’t “get it”.


15 posted on 11/23/2012 4:30:34 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: onyx

“Israel should never again cede one more inch of its precious homeland.”

Cut Gaza loose. Just say in front of the UN that Gaza is no longer part of Israel, it will not trade with them, nor will it provide any services to them. Any future attacks on Israel by Gaza will be an act of war.


16 posted on 11/23/2012 4:39:38 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (George W. Bush is the Emmanuel Goldstein of the modern era.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

17 posted on 11/23/2012 4:51:30 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

btt


18 posted on 11/23/2012 5:03:57 AM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: IbJensen

This is not too far from what happened...although under-reporting is closer to the truth rather than actually blaming the Jews. Thanks for posting.


19 posted on 11/23/2012 5:13:23 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: onyx

Was going to ping you, but you beat me here ;)

Very good read.


20 posted on 11/23/2012 5:14:31 AM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

According to FOX this morning, big trouble at Gaza-Israel border. Also big demonstrations in Egypt.

ME about to blow up.

What a mess the O admin has created.


21 posted on 11/23/2012 5:17:12 AM PST by dforest
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

—— In effect, Israel had created the first Palestinian state——

Actually it created a bifurcated state that has lapsed into two states. Gaza is in effect a city state with no internal resources nor sustainable ability. East and West Pakistan come to mind.

What was occupied? All of Israel is the occupied zone.


22 posted on 11/23/2012 5:19:00 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: dforest

http://www.foxnews.com/


23 posted on 11/23/2012 5:19:19 AM PST by dforest
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To: 2010Freeper

Pity about the greenhouses.


24 posted on 11/23/2012 5:21:40 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: dforest

Morsi has also taken dictatorial powers - he just declared yesterday that the Egyptian courts have no authority over his decisions or decrees. He is having the MB rewrite the constitution, and is essentially writing the judicial authority out of it and establishing a sharia state.

Way to go, Obama.


25 posted on 11/23/2012 5:33:03 AM PST by livius
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To: dforest

Let the purging of islam from the ME begin... drive them all into the Sea... no quarter and no mercy.

LLS


26 posted on 11/23/2012 5:38:01 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: livius

Morsi is trying to be like Obama. He has essentially done the same to America, though many have yet to realize it because he hasn’t officially declared himself dictator.


27 posted on 11/23/2012 5:48:09 AM PST by dforest
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To: IbJensen

Sadly brilliant!


28 posted on 11/23/2012 5:51:53 AM PST by blaveda (blaveda)
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To: 2010Freeper

Not cancer....they are cockroaches. Cancer can be cured if caught early enough or at least forced into remission.

Cockroaches on the other hand, there is no living with them, they are filthy disgusting things that bring disease with them and cannot truly be iradicated unless you burn the building down.

In Gaza, the Israeli’s need to leaflet the place, with a 30 day order to leave. At the end of the 30 days you start burning the place to the ground and destroy everything. You doze it all into a big pile and crush and sort the remains.

There is no such thing a Palestinians...they are ARABS and there is no reason that they cannot go to Saudi, or Jordan or Syria or even Egypt.

The porblem is that none of their brother Arabs wants them in their countries either. No comity amongst these people? The others know that if they let the cockroaches into their countries there will be nothing but trouble emanating from them.


29 posted on 11/23/2012 5:53:40 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: dforest

“What a mess the O admin has created.”

Yep. Installing the Muslim Brotherhood surrounding Israel doesn’t seem to have been so wise. Obama started it; God Almighty will finish it. Blessed be the name of the Lord.


30 posted on 11/23/2012 5:54:11 AM PST by Twinkie (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.)
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To: 2010Freeper

My sister has treated her cancer by radically changing her diet.


31 posted on 11/23/2012 6:08:19 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: bert

bull, all of israel is not an occupied zone.....dont start that crap.


32 posted on 11/23/2012 6:17:55 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

In 1967 Israel should have pushed all the Gaza Philistines into Egypt and been done with it. Likewise Israel should have pushed all the West Bank arabs into Jordan. It could have been done in 1967. Now they should take back a strip between Gaza and the Sinai and fortify it and they should invade and secure the Northeast end of Gaza to a line south of Gaza City and enisle Gaza City. Then over time take one peripheral neighborhood at a time and push the residents further into Gaza City. Mor rockets then should result in Israel moving the line further southwest so that the Gazans come to understand that rocketfire means shrinking real estate. Either the rockets stop or the Gazans gradually get forced into the Mediterranean or into Egypt as Israel allows only one way traffic across their Sinai border strip.
All this would serve as a demonstration for the edification of the West Bank arabs also.


33 posted on 11/23/2012 6:19:36 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: raygunfan

I was stating the Hamas position.


34 posted on 11/23/2012 6:21:18 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: arthurus

Egypt doesn’t want Gaza. Jordan doesn’t want the West Bank. The people of Gaza and the West Bank are known to be trash and are totally undesirable.

Gaza and the West bank are quarantine zones that by international consensus fence off the undesirables shunned by all in the mideast.

The recent ceasefire once again demonstrates the principle. Some money was collected from Arab brethren and will be dribbled out to prevent general depravity and starvation.

The problem of Iran however remains but is partially thwarted.


35 posted on 11/23/2012 6:31:43 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: GeronL

36 posted on 11/23/2012 6:52:38 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: bert

In 1967 what Egypt and Jordan wanted or didn’t want was irrelevant. It is the same now. Israel is what should matter to Israel.


37 posted on 11/23/2012 6:56:31 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: arthurus

Israel didn’t want the Palis either. The decision was to quarantine them into the west Bank and Gaza. That happened and was agreeable to all


38 posted on 11/23/2012 8:34:42 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

US gives green light to Hamas to attack. Hillary sent to ME for photo op showing she was instrumental in ending skirmish.
Susan Rice gives her first interview during the same time. It’s all going to end like Benghazi, because there are too many outside players not privy to the rules. I don’t trust whomever is running this country.


39 posted on 11/23/2012 8:49:28 AM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: bert

sorry bert, my apoligies....


40 posted on 11/23/2012 8:53:11 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: olezip
This was mentioned in a 2005 article:

But that hope was jeopardized when Palestinian looters damaged many of the greenhouses, stripping them bare, for instance, of computers that the settlers used to monitor crops. Irrigation pumps were stolen, electricity networks paralyzed, and protective sheeting for the hothouses were torn.

Greenhouses covering one-fourth of the land were damaged during looting after the handover, according to Palestinian officials.

41 posted on 11/23/2012 9:27:57 AM PST by KittyKares (.)
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To: KittyKares

The destruction of the Greenhouses says it all. As long as the UN and Arabia give the money for food to live in poverty—it will be the launch pad for more attacks until Israel is no more. When they win (if ever) they will do the same to everything Israel had built up. Peace accords are not the answer with these fanatics. You got to use Putin’s Russia as a model—how did he handle the Islamic Terrorists in his land?


42 posted on 11/23/2012 10:04:41 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: IbJensen

That is great!


43 posted on 11/23/2012 11:27:11 AM PST by aquila48
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To: bert

“Gaza is in effect a city state with no internal resources nor sustainable ability”

Sort of like Hong Kong and Singapore?


44 posted on 11/23/2012 11:30:14 AM PST by aquila48
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To: bert

You seem a bit obtuse.


45 posted on 11/23/2012 12:05:30 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Gaza is the new “Danzig.”


46 posted on 11/23/2012 12:09:57 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: aquila48

-——Sort of like Hong Kong and Singapore?-——

Good point except no!

First there are no Chinese. Second the singapore/HongKong Arab equivalent is Dubai/Abu Dhabi.

Gaza is a running sore, a boil, a sociatal blight.


47 posted on 11/23/2012 1:15:06 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: sickoflibs; Cincinatus' Wife; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; ..
Seven years ago, in front of the world, Israel pulled out of Gaza. It dismantled every settlement, withdrew every soldier, evacuated every Jew, leaving nothing and no one behind. Except for the greenhouses in which the settlers had grown fruit and flowers for export. These were left intact to help Gaza’s economy — only to be trashed when the Palestinians took over.

Meanwhile, Boehner and company are going to trade citizenship for illegal aliens for .... for what? Their pictures on the cover of magazines? A pat on the back from Krugman at an exclusive cocktail party?

Stupid and cowardly is a deadly combination.

48 posted on 11/23/2012 1:49:28 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: bert

“First there are no Chinese. Second the singapore/HongKong Arab equivalent is Dubai/Abu Dhabi.”

And what’s the difference between the chinese of Hong Kong and Singapore and the Arabs of Gaza?

In the case of arabs in Dubai/Abu Dhabi, the UAR has substantial natural resources (oil). But do you think it’s the oil that’s made them different from the arabs in Gaza?

My point is that it isn’t a lack of natural resouces that’s made “Gaza a running sore, a boil, a sociatal blight”, as you correctly point out. It’s something else - their belief system, their world view.

It’s what explains the difference between N and S Korea, as well as Gaza and Israel, Hong Kong, Singapore, Dubai, Switzerland, etc, etc.


49 posted on 11/23/2012 1:51:07 PM PST by aquila48
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale
RE :”Meanwhile, Boehner and company are going to trade citizenship for illegal aliens for .... for what? .......
Stupid and cowardly is a deadly combination.”

Romney ran as the toughest on immigration to win the R primary then he went for the white 50+ vote in the general against O which he won a landslide of,
O turned out blacks and Hispanics (and single woman and young whites) to vote in Key states and it worked, after he went all out for illegals in his policy which you didn't hear much from Romney on..

Bohner+the rest are terrified now. All this talk of moderating to look more like Dems will result in no good, as did Romney result in no good.

50 posted on 11/23/2012 2:29:45 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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