Posted on 11/23/2012 8:27:43 PM PST by Catsrus
Here's a breakdown of how each county in Ohio voted in 2012. If it weren't for the most populace counties such as Franklin, Cuyahoga and Hamilton - Mitt would have won as would Josh Mandel.
Something needs to be done about these large counties winning states in the elections. Someone on here (don't remember who) suggested that the winner should be by who wins the most counties or to proportion the electoral votes accordingly.
Anyway, for those interested - here it is.
Whoops sorry that’s backwards, the 2308302 is R and 2549546 is D.
No, I was right the first time. the R votes for the House exceed the D votes
As to the Fudge and Boehner comparison, they both ran unopposed and they both got roughly equal numbers of votes (i.e. in the 240,000 to 250,000 range). So given that that each district contains a roughly equal number of voters it seems very strange that Fudge's district would have an explosion of votes for both Obama and Sherrod Brown while Boehner's district wouldn't see the same counter-effect for Romney.
If I remember correctly, zero and all DEMS were at the top of every ballot. I’m just wondering if people just voted the first name on the ballot?
All the Cuyahoga numbers are here: http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/ElectionResults2012/11062012UnofficialResultsbyPrecinct.HTM When I look at an average Romney-zero precinct, say Cleveland 08-J I see 482 ballots cast (55% turnout). Johnson-L got 1 vote, Obama got 472 votes, Stein-G got 1, and there were 4 each of undervotes and overvotes. The undervotes I assume means someone left President blank. Overvotes I have no idea since the machine only lets you pick one.
Sherrod Brown won 420 to 5 (and 8 and 1 for the others), and there were 48 undervotes. So right away 1/10 people stopped checking boxes. Fudge got 367 votes with 115 undervotes. The D state rep ran unopposed and got 349 votes with 133 undervotes. The county attorney won 300 to 53 with 127 undervotes (he was a D running against a no party candidate). So there was a bit more voting in a contest with an actual opponent. The state board of education vote got 178 undervotes. Supreme court justices had 186 undervotes, 198 undervotes, 139 undervotes, unopposed appeals judge had 221 undervotes, but the contested appeals judge had only 198.
The pattern is that some voters dropped out right after Obama but others went down to hit some of the contested races. Fudge was uncontested so she got skipped in many cases.
I don't think there's any mystery in how the voters can drop out through rest of the ballot with upticks for some contested races. I don't think it's much of a mystery that Romney can get zero votes when there are hundreds of other precincts where they tried to give him zero votes and weren't quite as successful (he got one or two votes in some cases, but less than 10 in hundreds of cases).
Out of 1000 precincts there were 16 zeros (not counting precincts with 20 or less votes), 41 of 1 or less, 77 of 2 or less, 100 of 3 or less, 128 of 4 or less, etc. IOW, there were 200 or 300 precincts were they tried to give Romney zero votes and succeeded in 16 of them. I think that is entirely possible without messing with machines, but probably requires some gatekeeping and/or coaching. With some of those turnouts in the 50's it might suggest gatekeeping (the person night be somehow discouraged from voting, e.g. their name isn't on the list).
In other words, voter fraud.
Come on - when you look at that page of precinct-by-precinct results and the areas in Cleveland and East Cleveland suddenly drop down to single digit vote counts for Romney don't you think there is something strange going on in those areas. Everywhere, vote counts for Romney never get lower than double-digits but suddenly in these inner-city areas the vote counts for Romney suddenly drop to next to nothing. Something is happening in those precincts that is not happening anywhere else.
It means that Romney got about 4% of black votes overall which would be 20 votes out of 500 in an average precinct. But these precincts are all welfare blacks with no middle class or blacks who know or work with whites. So instead of 4% Romney got 1% or less in 150 or so precincts. The mentality of these people is not to try to do right for America even if they understood that capitalism made America strong. It is simply a gang where the members belong by thinking in lockstep and voting in lockstep. Their thought processes are nothing short of communism. Their radio stations tell them to think about Advanced Democracy and other euphemisms for welfare and reparations from the white race.
The problem is what body of ‘exit’ polls by media outlets one wants to believe when it come to the Catholic vote.
Since no one knows what the actual truth is we’ll never know what the final facts are, and how much religious bigotry re-elected Obama.
Pelosi and dead Ted are a couple of false Catholics that come to mind. And they get away with it.
“The problem is what body of ‘exit’ polls by media outlets one wants to believe when it come to the Catholic vote.”
I agree that exit polls are only strangers telling strangers something as reported by the media. But if exit polls are so unreliable, why would you say that Catholics voted for Obama in those states? The only exit polling I have seen was that they didn’t, so I asked you what have you seen that made you think otherwise. I have only seen one source, you could very well have seen others that I can’t find, and I take it that all the polling hasn’t been finalized or whatever they do with it.
“Since no one knows what the actual truth is we’ll never know what the final facts are, and how much religious bigotry re-elected Obama.”
I guess it depends on how reliable you think exit polling is, but I take it many seem to lend it some credence, at least if all the posts about it on FR count.
I reckon I don’t get the religious bigotry part.
“Pelosi and dead Ted are a couple of false Catholics that come to mind. And they get away with it.”
It’s a scandal that dwarfs the homosexualist priest scandal, in my opinion.
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