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To: Fishtalk
If you believe in majority rule buys, accept that gubmint health care is here to stay. The best we can do is get busy fixing every damn thing wrong with it.

That's a fool's errand. "Fixing it" will make it worse. Medicare costs nine times what the USG estimated. Obamacare is a huge new entitlement program. It is going to wreck the healthcare system and bankrupt the country even faster.

Once the "pain" of Obamacare kicks in next year and in 2014, there will be a huge public outcry to ameliorate the pain. The doctors and hospitals will revolt against the reduction in payments that make up much of the $716 billion taken from Medicare. The employers will shift tens of millions of their employees off of their plans and put them into state and federal exchanges. And the individual mandate will not work in terms of putting more people into insurance plans.

The result will be tremendous public pressure on the politicians to fix things. So like the doc fix, the lower reimbursement rates for doctors and hospitals will be postponed. Penalties on employers to keep employees on the rolls will be increased so that people don't lose their current healthcare providers. On and on it will go to "fix" a 2700 page monstrosity. There will be plenty of unintended consequences. And the Reps will be blamed.

It is a lose-lose proposition for the Reps to get involved in fixing Obamacare, which was always set up to fail eventually so we can move into a single payer system. Obama said that himself. Obamacare is just an interim step.

103 posted on 11/25/2012 9:57:57 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Ok, one more than I’m done.

I’m not disputing a word in your comment. Indeed I take as close to true ever statement you made.

Though you seem to think the pubs should just let it go as written till it ends up where planned...or till the public has had enough....well you could be right on that as well. I’m given pause to the concept.

Why?

I’ve read a lot of the provisions of Obamacare, how it will be enforced, how it will work.

Frankly, it’s not all that bad.

Okay, hear me out.

I dare, double dare, a single one of you to take self-righteous umbrage at the fact that discipline over the new Obamacare plan will be made via your paycheck or income tax return.

How dare you be outraged when paychecks have FOR DECADES been used to enforce the following laws: child support, debts from taxes or judgements, alimony. For decades employers have been charged with doing, for no recompense, enforcing social laws because what better way to get first dibs at the spigot than the person’s very paycheck?

Oh, employers are charged with other social tasks, such as checking immigration, notifying the IRS that subject wants to claim 99 exemptions, goodness I’ve had thirty years of experience and I know this, yes I do.

So if a person does NOT have health insurance as required by Obamacare, they will take your tax refund and attach your paycheck to pay the penalty.

Do not get sniffy about it, the private sector will once again be forced to do the gubmint’s work.

It works. Attaching paychecks work.

It’s why all the extra IRS agents. They will be issuing judgements and such. Indeed, it does not surprise me.

If subject does NOT have health insurance their paycheck will be attached and only if they work thereonin under the table will subject be safe from gubmint attachment.

Again, thank me very much.

This WILL happen, count on it.

Whether pubs should get involved, whether public will get incensed enough to get it outta there, I dunno.

But we lost the battle.


110 posted on 11/25/2012 10:31:47 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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