Posted on 11/26/2012 7:38:08 AM PST by SeekAndFind
There's been much verbal hand wringing since the election about the Republican Party's alleged urgent need to modify its stance on amnesty -- this, it's argued, is the key to improving Republican showing among Hispanic voters (Romney got about 22% of the Hispanic vote). As but one of many recent examples, see James Doti's November 16, 2012, opinion piece in the Orange County Register, a normally sensible newspaper.
Almost all this panicked chatter, Doti's included -- from both conservative commentators and Republican office holders -- is based on a willful refusal to see the obvious.
Those who argue that the Republican Party should endorse "a path to citizenship" for ten (twenty?) million illegals ignore the fundamental economic basis for the Democrats' tightening vise grip on the U.S. Hispanic vote: Hispanics, especially those of recent Mexican and Central American origin and their children, do not vote Democrat because they want open borders, but because they are eager for government benefits.
The Republican Party can't cure that economic reality, which is driving Hispanic allegiance to Democrats, by altering its stance on amnesty -- but it could fatally damage the Republican Party by that change.
The US sub-demographic of Mexican and Central American recent arrivals and their children constitutes an immense portion of the overall U.S. Hispanic population (in fact, it's a substantial majority), and its percentage among the U.S. Hispanic population would increase dramatically if a new amnesty were adopted. This sub-demographic is almost certainly voting Democrat in percentages far greater than the overall 2012 Hispanic Democrat vote of 71%.
Any weakening of the Republican Party's longstanding position on a second massive amnesty (President Reagan's 1986 mistake was the first) would be seen by Hispanics as insincere, Johnny-come-lately pandering, and for that reason alone would gain the Party few votes from Hispanics.
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“My conversations with him lead me to believe that neither he nor others in his community receive taxpayer funded benefits.”
Really? ...... *blank stare*
Chalk up one more person who can’t grasp the idea that you can’t expect folks to vote for you, if you don’t ask them to.
Romney didn’t ask Hispanic Californians to vote for him. He didn’t make the case for Conservatism. To the Hispanics in California, Conservatism is the Republican party’s best kept secret.
In light of that, on what basis do we expect Hispanics to vote for the Conservative “as if” candidate?
The Republican party screwed their own interests in multiple ways on Hispanics, now try to read everything else as the problem.
1. We didn’t make an appeal to Hispanics
2. We didn’t try to sell Conservatism to Hispanics
3. We didn’t try to sell family values to them
4. We didn’t try to sell lower crime rates to them
5. We didn’t try to sell economic prosperity to them
6. We didn’t try to sell better education to them
7. We didn’t conduct one single campaign stop in California focused on the Hispanic populace there
Then...
1. We place the blame on our illegal immigration stance
2. We place the blame on greedy Hispanics
The level of ignorance within the Republican party when it comes to Hispanics, is astounding. We couldn’t be more clueless if we tried. And Lord knows we have tried our best.
The Republican party views with regard to amnesty, is that it has to take place.
No matter what takes place unrelated to Amnesty, the failure to achieve Amnesty is why Republicans fail with Hispanics. That’s the leadership’s premise, and I’ll be damned if they can think of ANYTHING else.
The Republican party is the potential employee who is angry at a prospective employer for not hiring them, when they didn’t show up to apply for the job, on the basis the employer was unwilling to hire them.
If we don’t file an application, we shouldn’t be surprised if we’re not hired.
I am a Californian and I will be the first to my state is as screwed up as they come. The people here have their heads firmly up their buttholes. Everyone wants free stuff and no one gives a rat’s behind about our exploding debt and out of control public service unions. Illegal immigration is out of control. The youth have bleak prospects. Businesess are fleeing the state in droves and our unemployment remains among the third highests in the nation. We have just implemented Cap and Trade in CA, refuse to drill for our abundant oil resources, our provide the farmers with the water they need to protect the snail darter. Our politicians are Marxist wackos. The This is now one party state. The GOP is for all intents and purposes a phantom party. It holds no state offices, it has only 15 out 53 congressional districts, and tiny numbers in the state legislature. The GOP has been effectively pushed out of all of the state’s major metropolitan areas except for Orange County-—and the GOP is in decline there as well-—being pushed to the most remote and rural corners of the state.
That all said——yes California is a basket case and bankrupt to boot——however-——last I checked——the rest of the nation seems to be following suit. When I look at the electoral map, I see quite clearly that Obama still would have won the election without California’s electoral votes.
I know my state is screwed up as hell. What troubles me most is that the rest of the nation seems soooooo determined to follow our path into hell.
National campaigns ignore ALL of CA, not just Hispanics.
During this past election, when I went in to volunteer at my local GOP HQ here in CA, they were making phone calls and organizing precinct walks in NEVADA!!!!
This is what it is like living in such a BLUE state. We don’t even try to win here anymore. It is SOOOOOOOOOOOO frustrating.
they will get amnesty...the battle now is how to fight in a post amnesty world
and it ain’t pretty
and yep...it has a racial and regional component
gonna be tough..not sure folks are up for it
I’ll likely be already dead
The Emigration to California from the east coast brought masses of Democrat voters into the once reliably Republican and certainly Golden state. That was bad enough, but it also brought on waves of east coast style Republicans (RINOs).
California has sunk from “Golden” status to a one party rule state led by Democrats, who are determined to sink it to 3rd world status.....sigh...
Coming to a state near you......
I understand that. I’ve argued the same thing here.
This article is addressing the lessons learned regarding Hispanics.
And while we’re at it, can someone please explain why the 14% Hispanic populace has ten times more clout with our elected officials, as the 60% plus non-Hispanic white voters do?
Their every whim is catered to. Our every whim is criticized as if we we’re members of the KGB and it was 1970.
BTW: To your point about not even trying anymore, I totally agree. And yes, it is sooooooooooooooooooo frustrating.
The Golden Shower state.
I seem to recall a war being fought over ‘taxation without representation’.
Because they stick together, Whites have been indoctrinated into thinking we’re bad people if we do the same.
Folks you can bash and trash CA all day long and Lord knows we DESERVE it. This state is perfectly awful in so many ways.
But I have some sobering news: Washington is even more screwed up. CA is bankrupt but the nation is in debt to the tune of $16 TRILLION. The only thing CA does not have that Washington has its own printing press or state Federal Reserve system to print up its own Monopoly money.
Does ANYONE out there actually believe that Washington DC is more restrained or disciplined than Sacramento?
CA bashing may be fun and easy——but the way I see it, the rest of the nation is just as bankrupt and bent upon its self destruction.
“..I seem to recall a war being fought over ‘taxation without representation’....”
Yeah, but that war was started and fought by evil white slave-owner right-wing christian paramilitary domestic terrorist genocidal maniacs who stole the land from peace-loving, tranquil, prosperous Native Americans who loved everyone and everything and who lived in complete harmony until the evil white men got here...
So it doesn’t count...
/sarc off (as if I need to...)
“Illegal migrants and Democrats have almost killed CA.”
Mr. Obvious
They stick together because we don't give them any alternative to support.
In the vacuum we've created, of course they vote for the only team that does seek their support.
Then we blame their actions on everything except the fact that we didn't even make an appeal to them.
Does anyone really think the GOP will learn a lesson from this? LOL!
if this is what you get
“My conversations with him lead me to believe that neither he nor others in his community receive taxpayer funded benefits.”
Then he is part of a really really small community.
Or you live in a state with a small illeal population.
I can tell you other states with bigger “ communities” of illegals see those illegals and their anchor babies draining our systems.
No one should try to pretend otherwise
Those days are long...if they ever really existed.
What are you going to tell Latinos that will make them go against the reconquest of their race of North America?
Offer a jobs based on race? Promise a few more handouts based on race? Promise them the opportunity to work for something the government already gives them for free?
I really would like to share your belief but the reality is all around us. It’s all about taking power from Whitie at this point.
In the ‘70s, a friend of mine wanted to emigrate here from Canada. She was an English-speaking, law-abiding person who had a job waiting for her here in LA. But her visa was denied because she’d be taking a job away from an American. We have indeed fallen far!
A few years after my friend was denied, I started seeing Mexican women in the grocery stores, speaking Spanish, lots of kids with them (but the women wore no wedding rings,) buying groceries with food stamps. I wondered why they were considered desirable immigrants and my friend wasn’t. Of course I quickly found out the women in the grocery stores were illegal. Soon apartment buildings in my neighborhood started installing security gates and bars on the windows. Graffiti, trash and blight increased. Signs in Spanish, young punks hanging around during the day making animal noises at women walking by, loud Latino music all night long, etc., etc., etc. And now California is almost completely ruined.
I’m glad some people are trying to talk sense into the Republicans, but I doubt it will do any good. They are bound and determined to have an amnesty, and it will be shoved down our throats.
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