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Approaching Crunch Time on the Student Loan Debacle (About to go the way of subprime mortgage mess)
American Thinker ^ | 11/26/2012 | Gary Jason

Posted on 11/26/2012 11:10:43 AM PST by SeekAndFind

For a number of years now, a number of critics of the American system of higher education have rightly insisted that there is a "bubble" in the system, with more and more students running up loans in amounts they will find difficult to pay back.

This bubble has been fueled by the federal government's lavish subsidization of the student loan program (which was nationalized four years ago), in a way similar to how the housing bubble was fueled by government agencies pushing subprime mortgages.

This extensive government largess has produced a number of unintended -- though not necessarily unforeseeable -- negative consequences. First, it has dramatically driven up the tuition and fees charged by colleges, which in turn has forced more students to take out loans. This should have been easy to foresee, since the agents running the colleges would know that their clients had access to government-backed loans and so would jack up tuition quickly to extract that money.

Second, this flood of money has only encouraged administrative bloat, which in turn has increased college costs with no increase in the quality of education. Again, this should have been foreseeable. The administration would be rationally well-informed about the new honey-pot of taxpayer-backed loans, and the self-interested administrators are the ones who decide where to spend the money, so you don't need to guess where they will (and did) spend it.

Third, the rising price of college tends to erase the potential returns of a college education for students of only average ability. In effect, like homeowners who refinance their homes only to squander the increased equity, many students are spending more (and borrowing more) of whatever future extra earnings their college educations will bring.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: college; studentloan; subprime; tuitionbubble
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To: Vigilanteman
The smart ones (especially those which trained their students with marketable degrees) would use the loan pool to generate a profit and line up lenders to feed more students into their system. This is exactly the model used successfully by Hillsdale College (Michigan) and being considered by other conservative colleges such as Liberty (Virginia), Grove City (Pennsylvania) and Brigham Young (Utah, Idaho and Hawaii).

My oldest is a Grove City student. Their refusal to deal with the Federally backed loan system was a big reason I applied (light) pressure to go there.

21 posted on 11/26/2012 12:29:23 PM PST by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: SeekAndFind

bump


22 posted on 11/26/2012 12:31:14 PM PST by far sider
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To: napscoordinator

the banks were the ones cut out of the system.


A little history.

In the 60’s these were NDSL loans. National Defense Student Loans

In the 70’s these were changed to National Direct Student Loans

In the 80’s and 90’s the banks took over to administrate these loans.

Slowly these centralized again and we are not back to govt loans.......................................


23 posted on 11/26/2012 12:32:06 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: SeekAndFind

It seems like everyone between the age of 23 and 30 that I run into these days is “going to college”. I wonder if they’ve figured out some way to use that as a means of supporting themselves, or what’s going on.


24 posted on 11/26/2012 12:35:19 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Vigilanteman

I believe that you’d have to start with a maximum limit of how much you can borrow for any two-year program or four-year program, or six-year program. I don’t any kid should be stupid enough to borrow more than $40k for his four-year degree. If you go beyond that....you probably will never be able to pay it off.

I’d also say that if you pick a subject area like French literature....you probably shouldn’t get a penny of government loans for it.


25 posted on 11/26/2012 12:52:43 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: lacrew

“he looks at me like I just sodomized a disney character.”

You did what?


26 posted on 11/26/2012 1:02:34 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: SeekAndFind
The highest default rate on student loans is among those who attend private, for-profit institutions (22%). The second-highest is among students attending state-supported colleges and universities (11%). The lowest default rate (7%) is among those who attend private, non-profit colleges and universities. The main driver of these differences in default rates is differences in the drop-out rate.
27 posted on 11/26/2012 1:05:40 PM PST by riverdawg
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To: Cementjungle

A lot of people are convinced they can run up the student loans and then wipe it out by declaring bankruptcy. They are in for a surprise. They also know you can postpone paying the student loan debt for a very long time.


28 posted on 11/26/2012 1:09:22 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: napscoordinator

http://archive.truthout.org/student-loans-the-government-is-now-officially-banking-business58148

This may not be the best article on the subject, was just one of the first ones I found by googling. But seems to support that the government forced banks out of the student loan business.


29 posted on 11/26/2012 1:40:18 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: Vigilanteman

The same 50.6% who put The One back in charge will eventually vote to forgive their own loans.


30 posted on 11/26/2012 1:41:37 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MAexile
Has GCC completed the process of kicking the federal loan program to the curb? Last I heard, they were still working on it.

If they have completely converted to the Hillsdale College model, then good for them! As you may know, Hillsdale's wildly successful model is now into its second decade. They have a pool of lenders lined up to give its students low interest loans plus a fund from alumni donations which renews itself for repayments. Conservative colleges teach character and, thus, their graduates are good risks for paying things back.

31 posted on 11/26/2012 1:42:56 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I think they have a real dilemma. If they do that, then SallieMae is out of business and with it the government pipeline of money to the academic industrial complex.


32 posted on 11/26/2012 1:57:18 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind
I said it a long time back, but handing taxpayer money to "Students", by making Loan Guarantees on low-rate loans, bought a lot of hot cars, tatoos, etc., and got a LOT of the Yewt vote for The Messiah.

There is NO constituency this Communist won't buy with YOUR earnings, period....Whatever it takes, he'll send YOUR money for it.....

33 posted on 11/26/2012 2:02:01 PM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: SeekAndFind

A program where 4 years military service erases 40,000 grand in loans.


34 posted on 11/26/2012 2:33:16 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: delapaz
"No need for all that. Just make student loans bankruptable like any other debt.

Instantly the problem is solved, loans will only be made then to good characters with prospects."

Oh yeah; just like the Qualifications to force Banks to make mortgage loans to the Welfare Queens, which were never paid back, Guaranteed by the Taxpayers, and we know how THAT worked out!

This is another bailout for Banks, who are ALWAYS made whole, now, regularly at the expense of The Taxpayer when necessary.

35 posted on 11/26/2012 2:34:20 PM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Vigilanteman; delapaz

actually what they do right now is try to hook the parents into co-signing.


36 posted on 11/26/2012 10:08:58 PM PST by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: no-s
Correct. Conning parents into cosigning is one tool. Limiting what the kids can borrow and conning parents into taking out PLUS loans for the balance is another.

PLUS loans are just as bad as the student loans themselves-- the parents are forever on the hook. Even if the kid agrees to take over the payments, chances are they will not be able to do so in today's economy and still service the loans they already have on their own.

The educrat-student loan industry is an alliance of evil which probably hooked just enough people to re-elect ObaMao on his vague promise of student loan forgiveness to make the difference.

37 posted on 11/27/2012 7:39:27 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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