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Obama to bypass congress to ban semiautomatic firearms
themoralliberal.com ^ | 26 November, 2012 | JIM KOURI

Posted on 11/27/2012 7:00:14 AM PST by marktwain

An anti-gun owner initiative considered in Washington could lead to massive civil disobedience and a severe domestic crisis, gun law expert John M. Snyder warned on Friday.

“According to confidential information,” he said, “forces linked with the administration suggest the government classify semiautomatic firearms and multiple capacity ammunition feeding devices as Title 2 National Firearms Act items under the Gun Control Act of 1968.

Americans familiar with federal gun laws understand that under this scenario, semiautomatics and high capacity magazines could be acquired only with great difficulty and at great expense by America’s estimated 100 million law-abiding firearms owners, notes Snyder.

According to Snyder and other gun ownership advocates, the Obama administration long ago realized it would have insurmountable difficulty getting a semiautomatic gun ban, such as that considered by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and others, passed Congress, especially when the House is controlled by defenders of the Second Amendment.

Congressional Second Amendment supporters already are preparing for such a battle. During the Clinton years, Congress enacted a partial, temporary semiautomatic ban but allowed it to sunset after 10 years because of its lack of significant negative impact on crime, according to surveys conducted by the National Association of Chiefs of Police.

The Obama administration, now safely reelected, may order the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to take the classification step. Some gun-grabbers view the designation of Street Sweeper shotguns as Title 2 firearms during the Clinton administration as precedent for such a move.

For several years, various groups and individuals have discussed the anti-gun owner proclivities of the current administration. Obama anti-gun owner activities have involved the promulgation of anti-gun federal regulations, the appointment of anti-gun judges to the federal courts, including the Supreme Court, and the appointment of anti-gun personnel to other high federal positions, including the appointment of an attorney general of the United States who is suspected by many observers of playing politics with the nation’s law enforcement community.

“It’s been under this attorney generalship that the infamous Fast and Furious federal gun running scandal involving ATF has occurred,” Snyder stated. “The administration may feel that a replacement in that office could facilitate a ratcheting-up of its anti-gun activities with announcement and inauguration of the proposed semiautomatic classification/ban.”

“Such a move surely would galvanize the law-abiding grass roots gun-owning American public into opposition as it never has before. At the very least, it would lead to an action in the U.S. House of Representatives to defund if not eliminate entirely the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. To what it would lead at the very most is anyone’s guess,” warns Snyder.

A former NRA editor and director of national gun rights organizations, Snyder has been defending the individual Second Amendment civil right of law-abiding American citizens to keep and bear arms for over 46 years. He’s been called the senior rights activist in Washington by Shotgun News. He also serves on the advisory board of the National Association of Chiefs of Police.

The Moral Liberal Contributing Editor, Jim Kouri, CPP, is the fifth Vice President and Public Information Officer of the National Association of Chiefs of Police, has served on the National Drug Task Force and trained police and security officers throughout the country. Contact Jim.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 112th; assault; ban; banglist; batf; bho44; bhobanglist; obama
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To: marktwain

I’m thinking this article is liberal claptrap. The author is a member of a rabid anti self defense organization. The dimocraps migh try some minor infringements, but they have seen what a political disaster messing with the second amendment is. Some of them will even want to keep thier corrupt little jobs after Obama is gone.


21 posted on 11/27/2012 7:24:28 AM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: marktwain

Why does Congress keep letting him get away with this sh&^&??


22 posted on 11/27/2012 7:24:48 AM PST by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd ,you get no further than the crowd!")
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To: rarestia
At the very least, it would lead to an action in the U.S. House of Representatives to defund if not eliminate entirely the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

Why are we waiting?

23 posted on 11/27/2012 7:24:56 AM PST by alancarp (Liberals: making promises that no one's wallet can keep,)
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To: ScottinVA

“”””””As stated in the article, it could mean a defunding of the BATFE in Congress. There are still levers that can be pulled in our favor so long as we control the House.

Yeah...funny thing.. I’ve been thinking that same thing about Obamacare since January 2011. “”””””””””””

As if Crybaby Boner would do anything to stop hussein. How did that wuss become a leader of anything?


24 posted on 11/27/2012 7:24:56 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: marktwain

Once again, we will find out what we are made of. Will we stand as free men and women or will we tuck our tail between our legs and cower down? Time will tell.


25 posted on 11/27/2012 7:27:03 AM PST by sport
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To: grobdriver

Counter-productive.

The NRA is not an arm of the Republican Party, and must never become one.

The NRA is a single-issue advocacy/lobbying organization.
When a Democrat gets it right, they deserve to be recognized on THAT issue.

When an A-rated senator or congressman cannot gain an endorsement because of their party affiliation, the NRA will become pointless.


26 posted on 11/27/2012 7:28:52 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: grobdriver

Counter-productive.

The NRA is not an arm of the Republican Party, and must never become one.

The NRA is a single-issue advocacy/lobbying organization.
When a Democrat gets it right, they deserve to be recognized on THAT issue.

When an A-rated senator or congressman cannot gain an endorsement because of their party affiliation, the NRA will become pointless.


27 posted on 11/27/2012 7:29:01 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: alancarp

The problem, as I see it, is that they’d have to defund it through a spending, appropriations, or budget bill that would likely be amended by the Senate and/or vetoed by Obama.


28 posted on 11/27/2012 7:30:26 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: marktwain

With guns taken away our streets will be a lot safer. A.Hitler


29 posted on 11/27/2012 7:35:47 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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To: marktwain

Even the Commie Judges in the high court have to be able to read, “Shall not be Infringed.”.

I know of many people that will consider an act such as this as an act of war, and will proceed on that action.


30 posted on 11/27/2012 7:43:12 AM PST by Big Mack (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat VEGETABLES!)
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To: marktwain

They were able to classify the Street Sweeper as a Title 2 weapon as it had a bore over 1/2”. They just claimed it had no sporting purpose.

I cannot see how they could blanket reclassify semi-autos as NFA weapons, much less magazines. I could see them restricting importation, but that would not affect the guns manufactured here.


31 posted on 11/27/2012 7:47:54 AM PST by Elderberry
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To: grobdriver

They’re a single-issue group, not an arm of the Republican party. From the NRA’s point of view, now that the Dems hold the Senate, it’s exactly the time to give some money to pro-gun Democrats, in hopes that they might block some legislation for you, since the Republicans won’t be able to do that. Just hedging their bets.


32 posted on 11/27/2012 7:48:56 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: marktwain

So, are we going back to revolvers and bolt/lever action rifles?


33 posted on 11/27/2012 7:49:44 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Edgerunner

Libs come in at least two flavors. There’s the partisan hack, who could care less about moral arguments. They support the party because the party supports them. Think Chicago political mafia.

But there are also the lib moralists, who actually consider themselves the moral superiors of conservatives and other primitives. These are the people in your family who argue with you at holiday gatherings, trying to show you are not for equality in marriage, or the rights of a woman to control her own body, or the right of poor people to advanced healthcare and large screen tv’s, or the right of non-anglos to come here and get stuff, even if they have to break the law to do it.

As between the two, I’d almost rather make my case to the Chicago thugs, because they still operate under a principle of self-interest, and that’s something to start with. It’s the real reason the left is so anti-gun. It’s just hard to be dictator when the little folk can shoot back.

Whereas the moralists want to take my guns because they are trying to protect me from myself, primitive creature that I am. And there’s no talking them out of it, except by a miracle. That’s the program they’re running and that’s all there is to it. Even a bad person will withdraw from danger, but a fool rushes in, to everyone’s harm.


34 posted on 11/27/2012 7:52:25 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: marktwain

Nowhere in our Constitution or its 2nd amendment is there anything that discusses or enumerates the type of arms.

“A populace cannot rally against a bad government without free speech, and will fail without the right to bear arms to protect free speech.” - BuffaloJack


35 posted on 11/27/2012 7:53:56 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
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To: angelcindy
Why does Congress keep letting him get away with this sh&^&??

Because they all have skeletons in their closets. Blackmailable.
36 posted on 11/27/2012 8:02:18 AM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: ScottinVA
I doubt that. It'll lead to a lot of talking, though.

And therein lies the problem - our side always talks while their side will mobilize and demonstrate/riot. Can't win a battle if you aren't willing to fight. As Randy Jackson says on American Idol - "You're in it to win it", and that really applies to the other side. We keep standing by our civilized "principles" even when said "principles" are killing us.

37 posted on 11/27/2012 8:03:24 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: marktwain

First they only wanted fully automatic weapons, but I didn’t have one so I didn’t care.

Next they only wanted “high capacity assauly weapons”, but I didn’t have one so I didn’t care.

Then they wanted semiautomatic pistols because of concern “for the children”, but I didn’t have one so I didn’t care.

Now they are breaking down my door to get my baseball bats, and there is no way to defend myself. I wish I had cared.


38 posted on 11/27/2012 8:22:10 AM PST by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: marktwain

First they only wanted fully automatic weapons, but I didn’t have one so I didn’t care.

Next they only wanted “high capacity assault weapons”, but I didn’t have one so I didn’t care.

Then they wanted semiautomatic pistols because of concern “for the children”, but I didn’t have one so I didn’t care.

Now they are breaking down my door to get my baseball bats, and there is no way to defend myself. I wish I had cared.


39 posted on 11/27/2012 8:22:29 AM PST by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: ilgipper
The average voter never hears of this stuff, and our side never objects.

Why do you say that? I think they object plenty. Their objections are not covered by the MSM, though. Those stories are spiked.

40 posted on 11/27/2012 8:29:42 AM PST by marktwain
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