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The media has decided sodomy is to be celebrated, so any attempt to live and believe according to classical Judeo-Christian ethics must be shut down.
1 posted on 11/27/2012 8:56:28 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

He just didn’t believe hard enough.


2 posted on 11/27/2012 9:01:20 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Q: How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Only one, but the bulb has to want to be changed.

I wonder if the fellow was thinking it would necessarily be easy. If that’s what this Jonah outfit suggested, and I don’t know if they did, then they were wrong. So he’s sore at them now, why. Does he still want what they had promised or seemed to have promised and is upset that it did not come to pass?

There are other fish in the sea, to mix a metaphor. Salvation-based theology simply works better, and some religions can’t put you in touch with a God that makes an ironclad promise of salvation — “no one can pluck them from My hand.” It matters greatly at the times when one has failed and then come back to one’s senses, to be able to see the issue in an eternal light and to say, dear God I sinned, but thank You, no that failure did not spoil my eternal salvation and I’m keeping on keeping on.


4 posted on 11/27/2012 9:07:28 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The whole homosexual issue is about shaking a fist in the face of God.
There aren’t that many homos, but there are a boatload of God hating leftists that know that this is an affront to Him,

and that is exactly why they are “pro gay”.


7 posted on 11/27/2012 9:15:42 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Just imagine the uproar if every shrink was subject to lawsuits for failed counseling.


12 posted on 11/27/2012 9:30:31 AM PST by aimhigh
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“The conversion therapy techniques included having them strip naked in group sessions, cuddling and intimate holding of others of the same-sex, violently beating an effigy of their mothers with a tennis racket, visiting bath houses “in order to be nude with father figures,” and being “subjected to ridicule as ‘faggots’ and ‘homos’ in mock locker room scenarios,” the suit said.

Of course this is a court case, so who knows, but if that is true then it isn’t what I pictured as going on when headshrinking away the gay.

Freegards


16 posted on 11/27/2012 9:46:41 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: SoFloFreeper

Why does it get the stamp of approval only if a “sex change” takes place in the wrong direction?

Straight to gay, O.K.

Gay to straight—OH, HORRORS!


18 posted on 11/27/2012 9:52:23 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The key phrase being that "JONAH could help him change..." means the case is a wash.
19 posted on 11/27/2012 9:52:52 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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Isn’t this like fat people suing restaurants? It’s your choice if you choose to go to one.


21 posted on 11/27/2012 10:04:23 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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“Unger’s ability to have physical and emotional relationships with men was impaired...”

Is that supposed to be a complaint or a statement that the therapy was at least partially successful?


22 posted on 11/27/2012 10:06:31 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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The conversion therapy techniques included having them strip naked in group sessions, cuddling and intimate holding of others of the same-sex, violently beating an effigy of their mothers with a tennis racket, visiting bath houses "in order to be nude with father figures," and being "subjected to ridicule as 'faggots' and 'homos' in mock locker room scenarios," the suit said.

I have no problem of the premise of reparative therapy, but the techniques sound like something out of Monty Python.
24 posted on 11/27/2012 10:14:40 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

What’s the matter girls? Afraid they’re right?

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I would only disagree with your post in that I think the real goal here is to completely destroy Judeo-Christian ethics, and all else become secondary.

We both believe the same thing, I’m just saying it a little different. I doubt you disagree.

The big three cannot survive in Judeo-Christian ethical environment.

Marxism, Communism, Socialism... these three have always thrown Christianity under the bus as soon as they could. It’s too powerful a competitor.

God given rights... ooooh noooooo! “The light, the light..., Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!”


25 posted on 11/27/2012 10:28:40 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Homosexuals know that they are the result of indoctrination and not nature. They must recruit and they hate anyone recruiting back.


26 posted on 11/27/2012 10:30:15 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I still think that some entrepreneur could make a fortune building a conversion center just across the border from California in Arizona.

Likewise the place could sell Arizona configured gasoline at half the price of the California blend, goose pate, liquor, make a deal with the western tribes to sell much lower taxed cigarettes, etc.

Put up a big sign, “Get your bent kids straightened here!”


27 posted on 11/27/2012 10:36:29 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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I wouldn’t be surprised to find this Bruck guy entered into this “therapy” never intending to change. Now he can hit the lecture circuit and bash all gay therapy programs as bad or ineffective. It’s what the gay movement wants—you can’t change their “inborn” nature is their mantra.

It’s much like Anti-Mormons joining the Mormon Church (under false pretenses) then a few months later leaving amid a great fanfare of sudden “revelation” that the Mormons are wrong—and now they hit the Anti lecture circuit as “Former Mormons” with some secret insight into the Mormon Church.


28 posted on 11/27/2012 10:37:47 AM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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trying to help people with mental illness is bad now... we must celebrate the mental illness.... jeesh


29 posted on 11/27/2012 10:40:47 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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30 posted on 11/27/2012 10:49:21 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: SoFloFreeper
The media has decided sodomy is to be celebrated, so any attempt to live and believe according to classical Judeo-Christian ethics must be shut down.

Some years ago, we had a homosexual friend/acquaintance who was dying of AIDS. In the months before his death, he "got religion" and destroyed all his homo porn because he saw it as a real threat to his salvation. I pray that James made it because you could see the internal struggle and the realization of what his lifestyle had cost him. I really have no idea of whether one can be born homosexual or be turned that way; much less if one can become "straight", but I have known several who have sworn off the lifestyle and I admire them because even run-of-the-mill vices can be hard to overcome. All of them got involved in a church and used the strength of God's Word and those who love the Lord as a foundation for their changes in lifestyle.

31 posted on 11/27/2012 10:56:03 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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The therapy, which can cost up to $10,000 a year, put them at risk of "depression, anxiety and self-destructive behavior," while giving them no benefits

funny, the same can certainly be said of homosexuality.

32 posted on 11/27/2012 11:11:07 AM PST by PGR88
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This is just another attempt to discredit ex-gays, conversion therapy, and the power of God all in one, just like the Marcus Bachmann “exposé”.


36 posted on 11/28/2012 1:02:11 AM PST by oohebo
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