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Obama to bypass congress to ban semiautomatic firearms, warns expert
examiner.com ^ | Nov. 26, 2012 | Jim Kouri

Posted on 11/27/2012 8:30:35 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

An anti-gun owner initiative considered in Washington could lead to massive civil disobedience and a severe domestic crisis, gun law expert John M. Snyder warned on Friday.

"According to confidential information," he said, "forces linked with the administration suggest the government classify semiautomatic firearms and multiple capacity ammunition feeding devices as Title 2 National Firearms Act items under the Gun Control Act of 1968.

Americans familiar with federal gun laws understand that under this scenario, semiautomatics and high capacity magazines could be acquired only with great difficulty and at great expense by America's estimated 100 million law-abiding firearms owners, notes Snyder.

According to Snyder and other gun ownership advocates, the Obama administration long ago realized it would have insurmountable difficulty getting a semiautomatic gun ban, such as that considered by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and others, passed Congress, especially when the House is controlled by defenders of the Second Amendment.

Congressional Second Amendment supporters already are preparing for such a battle. During the Clinton years, Congress enacted a partial, temporary semiautomatic ban but allowed it to sunset after 10 years because of its lack of significant negative impact on crime, according to surveys conducted by the National Association of Chiefs of Police.

The Obama administration, now safely reelected, may order the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to take the classification step. Some gun-grabbers view the designation of Street Sweeper shotguns as Title 2 firearms during the Clinton administration as precedent for such a move.

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1 posted on 11/27/2012 8:30:42 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

His pad of executive orders seems to be endless.


2 posted on 11/27/2012 8:32:58 PM PST by doc1019 (Abortion: Women have a choice, unborn babies don't.)
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To: doc1019

and the MSM remain shocked about record gun sales...


3 posted on 11/27/2012 8:33:59 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

You see? Why bother participating in the political process when the dictator walks right around Congress? Would everyone please WAKE UP!


4 posted on 11/27/2012 8:34:08 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Get yer Saiga 12’s now.


5 posted on 11/27/2012 8:35:53 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
If Obama's puppet masters get him to do this, the republican majority in the House must IMMEDIATELY defund the BATFE. And I mean CUT OFF ALL FUNDS! Not a single penny!

The house of representatives holds the purse-strings, and if the ATF tries to classify semiautos and magazines as NFA weapons, they must be put out of business.

Mark

6 posted on 11/27/2012 8:39:16 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: doc1019
My extended Russian/Ukrainian family will just keep acquiring more arms. You can never have enough. This Keynan imposter needs to be ignored.
7 posted on 11/27/2012 8:42:22 PM PST by Katiana Kalashnikova
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To: Katiana Kalashnikova

I had enough, unfortunately all were lost in a boating accident while crossing a local lake. Nary a gun to be fond in my house. Sad but true.


8 posted on 11/27/2012 8:48:30 PM PST by doc1019 (Abortion: Women have a choice, unborn babies don't.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Say you want a revolution,...”


9 posted on 11/27/2012 8:51:14 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't tax me bro! Tax that guy over there!)
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To: mylife
Get yer Saiga 12’s now.

Feinstein proposed no grandfathering, so her ban would affect existing firarms also. Don't know how far Obama will go, but go he will. Count on it.

10 posted on 11/27/2012 8:52:14 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If this is true, here we go.

Its been too long coming. Let’s get it over with.


11 posted on 11/27/2012 8:53:02 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: doc1019

Yours too? Wow...

I lost the boat to. Rotted old thing.

I miss the guns. The boat, not so much.

Deepest part of the lake to. I sent divers and everything. They say there is 30 feet of muck down there. could swallow everything.


12 posted on 11/27/2012 8:53:56 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: umgud

We shall see.


13 posted on 11/27/2012 8:54:35 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Second amendment bump for later........


14 posted on 11/27/2012 8:57:59 PM PST by indthkr
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To: doc1019

Mine were all lost is a fire the day before this passes.


15 posted on 11/27/2012 9:04:00 PM PST by mykroar (BAD-ANON: One Game At A Time)
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To: umgud

Exactly why sales are through the roof. Looks like time to grab the AKs (myself and brother) to finish our initial collection.


16 posted on 11/27/2012 9:05:16 PM PST by mykroar (BAD-ANON: One Game At A Time)
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To: cableguymn

Fortunately, nary a gun, lost or otherwise, can be traced to me. As far as the government is concerned, I never, in my lifetime, have ever owned a gun. Planning is all in the planning.


17 posted on 11/27/2012 9:05:47 PM PST by doc1019 (Abortion: Women have a choice, unborn babies don't.)
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To: doc1019

I have never lost a gun in a boating accident. Luckily I know how to take care of and use my guns. They may find out how well someday soon.


18 posted on 11/27/2012 9:10:37 PM PST by jimpick
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To: jimpick

Gee, lucky you.


19 posted on 11/27/2012 9:14:12 PM PST by doc1019 (Abortion: Women have a choice, unborn babies don't.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Something tells me Obama has no idea what makes a firearm semiautomatic.


20 posted on 11/27/2012 9:22:36 PM PST by stevem
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To: stevem

Are we talking about guns as mundane as my semi auto hunting shotgun?


21 posted on 11/27/2012 9:27:34 PM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: Andrei Bulba

Yup.

If it reloads the chamber by itself after a shot has been fired and waits for you to pull the trigger again, it’s a semi-auto. And it’s on the chopping block.


22 posted on 11/27/2012 9:33:29 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

[[Obama to bypass congress to ban semiautomatic firearms, warns expert]]

News Flash- The Dear leader is set to bypass congress on a great many thigns and to use the EXCUSE that he is bypassing congress and trampling our constuitutional rights because accordign to him ‘the public clearly mandated by their votes for him that America wants a stronger more assertive president’

You are goign to see dear leader unleashed and UNCHALLENGED because all we can get out of the GOP is ‘Gee- we’re ‘deeply dissappointed’ by Susan Rice’s assertions’? Are you kidding me? And she’s probably goign to win nomination? What in THE HELL has the GOP sunk to? The left woudl have crucified a Bush appointee had they goen out and LIED REPEATEDLY to America and the world abotu hte cold blooded murders of Americans on American soil overseas- That person woudl have been long gone- but susan rice is still going to be3 nominated? Have thje GOP slipped that far into hte sewer that theyu can no logner stand up to the RATS that inhabit it?


23 posted on 11/27/2012 9:41:42 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: doc1019

Well, we did save the beer and the Scotch, so the day wasn’t entirely tragic .....


24 posted on 11/27/2012 9:49:47 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This looks like it will end well. /s If our servants decide to become our masters, will we let them?


25 posted on 11/27/2012 9:52:38 PM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m sorry, the President has no more authority to ban guns than I do.


26 posted on 11/27/2012 10:06:26 PM PST by Boiling point (Socialism; Ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Boy, it’s getting so that you need to hire a lawyer to keep track of how the Feds are classifying your guns, your food, etc.


27 posted on 11/27/2012 10:08:36 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Such an illegal action would interfere with my God given right to bear arms.


28 posted on 11/27/2012 10:34:29 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
We're talking about putting many tens of millions of guns owned by many tens of millions of people under Title 2 classification. The BATF has nowhere near the resources to expand that program by an order of magnitude. Not to mention the massive refusal to cooperate that they would encounter.

PISSPOTUS can sign an EO making all horses unicorns but they won't be crapping Skittles anytime soon.

29 posted on 11/27/2012 10:43:04 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: umgud

“Feinstein proposed no grandfathering, so her ban would affect existing firarms also.”

Yes, that’s what I read about her bill. Those who have those weapons would have to turn them in. When I read that, I thought this is it - guys aren’t giving up those guns.


30 posted on 11/27/2012 10:48:01 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m beginning to think the Obummer really is sleeper salesman for arms manufacturers.

Either that or there is mass propaganda by the manufacturers to create gun buying hysteria with an anti-2A president in the white hut.


31 posted on 11/27/2012 10:50:56 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: CottShop

Yes


32 posted on 11/27/2012 10:52:53 PM PST by onona (It's a good day to celebrate life, so I shall !)
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To: Spktyr

So that means every gun except revolvers and single shot guns are all that would be legal.


33 posted on 11/27/2012 10:54:56 PM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The dictator wannabe is taking lessons from Chavez and Morsi.


34 posted on 11/27/2012 10:59:52 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Terry Mross

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2963117/posts

Scroll through for some of the links.

Little by little, inch by inch...


35 posted on 11/27/2012 11:02:55 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

They are obsessed with this quest to disarm the citizens (like socialized medicine). The House Republicans must stand firm always on this issue. The progressives are not going to back down. Scary times because lying sells. Integrity/promoting constitutional rights gets you ridiculed by the media ..


36 posted on 11/27/2012 11:13:42 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. .Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Christie at the beach

Relying on republicans to stand firm...

I’ll say this. If my constitutional rights have no meaning, then neither do any of the laws passed by the government it created.


37 posted on 11/27/2012 11:22:20 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37
Chris, they are on fast track, to rule completely over us. Everywhere, I go, people are telling me that they are afraid; people who never mentioned ever being afraid. Take care, Chris.
38 posted on 11/27/2012 11:29:14 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. .Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Christie at the beach

No one other than God rules over you.

Peace, FRiend.


39 posted on 11/27/2012 11:40:50 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: TigersEye

It’s always worked for them. Legal gun owners in CA, MA, NJ, NY, DC, Il, Chicago, NYC have all bent over, grabbed their ankles and turned them in. Why expect anything else from sheep?


40 posted on 11/27/2012 11:47:46 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This would be a tremendously unpopular move, both among Republicans and Democrats. It would be extremely ill-advised, and lead to massive civil disobedience and widespread non-compliance, with expensive and time consuming headaches in enforcement.

Somehow I can’t see it happening.


41 posted on 11/28/2012 12:00:39 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Christie at the beach

I agree. I tell everyone in my extended family and circle of friends to start stocking up ammo if they haven’t already. People should also plan on buying firearms that are duplicates of what they already have for parts and also perhaps buy additional units to BURY for future generations or in case the government ultimately goes total Hitlarian(It’s already in low gear and has let the clutch out).


42 posted on 11/28/2012 12:46:05 AM PST by MachIV
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To: Terry Mross

Don’t you mean that revolvers and single shots are all that would be legal? :P


43 posted on 11/28/2012 12:57:22 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Jack Hammer

I don’t really see many, ...or hardly any, owners of everything from Ruger 10/22, to handguns, shotguns, to AR-15s turning their guns in or paying a confiscatory tax on them. We are talking about tens of millions of people, with literally hundreds of millions of guns.

That would also change and betray the ‘gun friendly’ image that Obama has shown us up to this point, causing countless pro-gun liberals to admit they were wrong about Obama’s intentions.. Obama will be hated like never before, by tens of millions more.

I see large numbers of people just ignoring/playing ignorant of any new interpretation of the 1968 law. And because of the sheer numbers involved I believe it would be unenforceable, making a hundred million people criminals.

This will only serve to make Obama look like the partisan Marxist extremist that he is, and I am not sure he wants to drop his mask. It would be political suicide.


44 posted on 11/28/2012 2:23:33 AM PST by Wildbill22
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To: Jack Hammer

This would be a tremendously unpopular move, both among Republicans and Democrats. It would be extremely ill-advised, and lead to massive civil disobedience and widespread non-compliance, with expensive and time consuming headaches in enforcement.

Somehow I can’t see it happening.


Since you bring it up, actually I can see it happening expressly for the reason it would cause massive civil disobedience nationally. The scenarios are near endless mind you, but the end result is clear: You want peace in the streets? Then the President needs to be a dictator to have the power to stop all of the rioting, looting, etc...

What I think though that our politicians and President Obama have forgotten is one crucial thing.... They receive their massive power and funding from the “consent of the governed”. Take away that consent and they are nothing but the the thugs and barbarians inside the the gates.


45 posted on 11/28/2012 2:39:49 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: Wildbill22

In fact, this move could motivate the first bi-partisan congressional move to repeal or modify the 1968 law to counter this. Or defund and or disband the ATF. I can’t imagine congress being overly thrilled about being circumnavigated like this.

Nothing good will come of it for Obama.

Nothing.


46 posted on 11/28/2012 2:40:52 AM PST by Wildbill22
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To: The Working Man

Could this be the manufactured ‘crisis’ that Yuri Bezmenov warned of to follow the decades of ‘destabilization’?

Obama would in the end have to enforce it like Stalin.

I remain confident that even that scenario would not end well for Obama.


47 posted on 11/28/2012 2:44:28 AM PST by Wildbill22
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To: Jack Hammer

Neither do I.

Oh there`ll be lots of bitching, for sure. A few conservatives will put on their best game face and complain about it on Hannity`s show. It`ll get some air play on talk radio..

All until the next manufactured “crisis” unfolds to conveniently take everyone`s minds away from the subject. Then, the only remaining consistent voices will be the NRA, who will then be marginalized as racist, violent clingers.


48 posted on 11/28/2012 2:55:06 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: cableguymn; doc1019

“Yours too? Wow...”

Not to mention the thousands of rounds of ammunition ;-)


49 posted on 11/28/2012 3:28:01 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: mylife
"Get yer Saiga 12’s now."

Check! (about 4 years ago - imagine that lol)

Been buying MD Drums and mags ever since!

50 posted on 11/28/2012 3:28:08 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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