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Justice Department Expands Hunt for Data on Cellphones [Eric Holder Spying on You]
NY TIMES ^ | 11/26/12 | SOMINI SENGUPTA

Posted on 11/28/2012 1:51:57 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

Cellphones seem to be increasingly attractive to the Department of Justice, documents obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union show. Agencies affiliated with the department used more than 37,600 court orders in 2011 to gather cellphone data, a sharp increase from previous years. They were almost equally divided between “pen register” data, which captures outgoing phone numbers, and “trap and trace” orders, which refer to incoming phone numbers, which means one phone could have two separate orders associated with it.

The total number has roughly doubled since 2007, when cellphone communications were more limited.

By law, the data can be obtained without a search warrant establishing probable cause, though the authorities do need to tell a court that it is relevant to an investigation. To get a wiretap that allows authorities to actually listen in on the contents of a call has higher legal barriers; law enforcement officials have to convince an impartial judge of probable cause.

(Excerpt) Read more at bits.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cell; domestic; freedom; holder; spying; totalitarianism
Obamugabe's criminal regime has DOUBLED the amount of data taken from cell phones since Bush was in office.

No bitching from the media.

1 posted on 11/28/2012 1:52:08 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
have to convince an impartial judge of probable cause.

...if a particular Judge is approached and grants the invasion of privacy over and over, does he not lose the impartiality tag?

2 posted on 11/28/2012 3:06:11 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: SoFloFreeper
Obamugabe's criminal regime has DOUBLED the amount of data taken from cell phones since Bush was in office.

Yes, but how many of those were Obamaphones?

My understanding is that Obamaphones are pretty prevalent in the drug trade (for obvious reasons) - so it's a serious question.
3 posted on 11/28/2012 3:18:53 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter
Where is the outcry from the ACLU? .......... Is this microphone on? .......
4 posted on 11/28/2012 3:50:32 AM PST by Pecos (Double tap: the only acceptable gun control)
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To: Doogle

Impartial means he’s only been bribed by the Justice Dept.


5 posted on 11/28/2012 4:03:50 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
" Obamugabe's criminal regime has DOUBLED the amount of data taken from cell phones since Bush was in office."

Also, while Bush was in office, if one were to express reservations about such a thing, around here and in other places, they would have been tarred/feathered and labeled as being something between a liberal and terrorist sympathizer. Folks need to be a little less 'selective' in their defense of liberty, and not have so much of the 'it's ok when our guy does it' attitude. When things like this were going on back then, I recall many on our side warning supporters of such tactics that some day, that power could be turned against THEM.

I agree it IS quite telling with all the silence from the media and the rest of the leftward hypocrites. The so called "ACLU" doesn't seem to have much to say either.....

6 posted on 11/28/2012 4:07:33 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Obama’s NSA eavesdropping goes beyond that of Bush... after campaigning on the promise of: “ No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me!”

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9845595-7.html

headlines read:” NSA Exceeds Legal Limits In Eavesdropping Program” , “ U.S. phone intercepts go beyond legal limits” , and “NSA Found Improperly Spying on Americans”.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123985123667923961.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

http://uk.reuters.com/article/burningIssues/idUKTRE53F09820090416

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/15/justice-dept-nsa-improperly-spied-americans/

it’s for your own safety when Barry does it


7 posted on 11/28/2012 4:41:34 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: KoRn

You are right.


8 posted on 11/28/2012 4:53:10 AM PST by PghBaldy (Pete Hoekstra RE: Petraeus scandal - "There's more here than meets the eye.")
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To: Pecos

Probably suing a city with a manger scene.

we all know that’s faaaarrrr more dangerous.


9 posted on 11/28/2012 5:03:13 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: SoFloFreeper
They could start with this one.
10 posted on 11/28/2012 5:09:17 AM PST by kanawa
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To: SoFloFreeper

I don’t necessarily see the the increase in cell phone listening for criminal investigations as a problem. The abuse of the tactic is no different from the abuse of wired phones.

What the statistics really indicate is that criminals have abandoned wired phones for wireless phones. I would seem reasonable to me that the statistics actually lag the need simply because cell phones are difficult to locate.


11 posted on 11/28/2012 5:09:34 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: KoRn

When things like this were going on back then, I recall many on our side warning supporters of such tactics that some day, that power could be turned against THEM.

********************

Ah, but it had those warm, fuzzy blankets of comfort wrapped around them. “Patriot” Act. “Homeland”. “Security”.

So much Kinder, Gentler and more Compassionate than the average authoritarian/totalitarian state.

I guess the classics really are dead, as so few can recognize a Trojan horse anymore.


12 posted on 11/28/2012 6:31:36 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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