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Free guns for everyone! Texas startup plans to distribute blueprints for 3-D printable firearms
Russia Today ^ | 26 November, 2012 | NA

Posted on 11/28/2012 8:05:27 AM PST by marktwain

Defense Distributed spokesman Cody Wilson tells the UK’s Guardian that his company has the “logistics, time, resources and money” to start freely distributing blueprints that will let any hobbyist with a 3-D home printer make their own gun, and now it’s just up to Uncle Sam to sign off on a federal firearms license. Wilson doesn’t think there will be any problem, though, and says his company plans to be approved and begin building prototypes in the coming weeks.

“We're just waiting on a little piece of paper,” Wilson says, which could be all the federal government needs to give them in order for Defense Distributed to start sending out schematics.

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Earlier this year, another hobbyist from the US designed a 3-D printer-made gun that could fire multiple rounds, but that model relied on a few extra parts from firearm shops in order to work. One gun in the works from Defense Distributed will be entirely made using an at-home printer and another will use electronics to fire bullets, but otherwise those two products will be able to be pieced together with nothing more than a fully-loaded printer.

(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 3d; 3dprinter; banglist; printer; tx
Nice to see Cody Wilson going about this the smart way.
1 posted on 11/28/2012 8:05:39 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Request:

W88! W88! W88!


2 posted on 11/28/2012 8:09:31 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: marktwain

What’s it made out of? Plastic?


3 posted on 11/28/2012 8:11:20 AM PST by DManA
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To: marktwain
I want a perfect 3D scanner that hooks up to a 3 axis CNC machine.

"Hey buddy can I borrow your AR 15 for a couple of days?" Thanks.

4 posted on 11/28/2012 8:12:00 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: DManA

How likely is it to blow up in your face?


5 posted on 11/28/2012 8:12:02 AM PST by DManA
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To: marktwain

Is it a virtual weapon? Paper? I don’t understand how this will work.


6 posted on 11/28/2012 8:13:42 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: marktwain

Another idea “stolen” from me.


7 posted on 11/28/2012 8:16:52 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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To: marktwain

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/137269-the-3d-printed-gun-when-is-high-tech-too-hot-to-handle


8 posted on 11/28/2012 8:17:24 AM PST by tentmaker (Galt's Gulch is a state of mind...)
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To: stuartcr

3D printers “print” by depositing accumulative layers of a variety of materials, from plastics to ceramics to composites, including metals.

It’s called printing because it works in a similar fashion to ink-jet printers.


9 posted on 11/28/2012 8:21:27 AM PST by tentmaker (Galt's Gulch is a state of mind...)
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To: marktwain

If this technology is perfected the possibilities of integrating a firearm into every day items is limitless. How about a 40 rd semi-auto disguised as a laptop. Or a 4 shot cell phone. Not to mention the problem of having ‘accessories’ match your outfit for the day are gone; just put a different color in the printer...


10 posted on 11/28/2012 8:27:17 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: marktwain

The low end 3d printers look like they cost about $4,000. Cool technology but the old fashioned metal tools are probably cheaper and easier.


11 posted on 11/28/2012 8:27:57 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: marktwain

HOME OF THE WIKI WEAPON. A NONPROFIT, COLLABORATIVE PROJECT TO CREATE FREELY AVAILABLE PLANS FOR 3D PRINTABLE GUNS.
http://defensedistributed.com/


12 posted on 11/28/2012 8:29:18 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: tentmaker

OK, thanks. It must be pretty expensive to make a reliable weapon.


13 posted on 11/28/2012 8:30:58 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: driftdiver

google “maker community”.

These are local community fabrication shops open to members.
Membership is monthly, and is affordable.

Upshot: these maker workshops could buy one or two of these printers (they usually have CNC’s), and you could go pop in a disk and use them.


14 posted on 11/28/2012 8:33:36 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: marktwain
Build yourself

Homemade induction furnace melting steel

15 posted on 11/28/2012 8:35:25 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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To: Carthego delenda est

3D printing has ramifications beyond firearms. In theory there are thousands of products that we currently buy which could be “printed” at home and assembled.


16 posted on 11/28/2012 8:38:51 AM PST by paul544
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To: MrB

So, no serial numbers or registration?


17 posted on 11/28/2012 8:40:25 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: DManA

Laser-sintered steel, I suspect.


18 posted on 11/28/2012 8:40:56 AM PST by Little Ray (I have VOTED AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: bgill

I’m sure there are laws against “manufacturing” without a “license”.

For instance, you can get into some big trouble with the ATF for possessing a threaded tube and some steel wool.


19 posted on 11/28/2012 8:42:21 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: DManA
How likely is it to blow up in your face?

Extremely likely , I'd say. Aricles produced by a 3D printer are suitable for design proto types only.

20 posted on 11/28/2012 8:46:45 AM PST by pgkdan (We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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To: Little Ray

Really? I didn’t know 3D printers could produce steel articles. Interesting.


21 posted on 11/28/2012 8:52:21 AM PST by DManA
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To: stuartcr
Make a Working GUN using a 3D Printer! 100% Legal. Amature GunSmith Makes an AR-15 Rifle
22 posted on 11/28/2012 8:55:50 AM PST by tentmaker (Galt's Gulch is a state of mind...)
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To: paul544
3D printing has ramifications beyond firearms. In theory there are thousands of products that we currently buy which could be “printed” at home and assembled.

A good friend of mine works for a company that does just that, he is the actual machine/equipment operator. He is always regaling a few friends like myself of what he has been making and how well these items work in reality, how the technology is continuing to improve. He has told us on a number of occasions that 'some' in his trade have indeed done exactly what is being discussed here. He says it is something that must be seen to be really appreciated.

23 posted on 11/28/2012 8:57:09 AM PST by Ron H. (Democrats and Republicans - birds of a feather that are now flocking together.)
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To: marktwain

Not clear why they need a firearms license for this. An “exploded” drawing of an AK-47 is not required to be licensed. Why is a blueprint for a different kind of gun? Or any instructions about how to build a gun?


24 posted on 11/28/2012 8:59:14 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: DManA

Steel printers are most likely more expensive than printers designed to print plastics. Some combine metallic powders with binding agents using fairly standard spray jets. Stainless steel objects can be printed this way.


25 posted on 11/28/2012 9:02:55 AM PST by tentmaker (Galt's Gulch is a state of mind...)
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To: tentmaker

I imagine you’d need a pretty high power lasar for that to work. Does it actually melt the steel?


26 posted on 11/28/2012 9:05:53 AM PST by DManA
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To: stuartcr
With the AR-15 lower, all it really does is hold the trigger pack and magazine where they need to be, relative to the upper receiver and barrel assembly (which can be purchased without involving a gun dealer - the lower receiver half bears the serial number). The lower isn't highly stressed, but the rear end where the buffer tube and buttstock attach does see some recoil and plastic versions will eventually fail there.

That's why CavArms (and now GWACS Armory) make polymer lowers that have integral buttstocks, like so:

They've added material in the weak spot between the buttstock and the pistol grip. Note that the side walls of the part are thicker than the aluminum original. I suppose someone could measure one of those and create a file to "print" it, but it would cost a lot in terms of "toner".

27 posted on 11/28/2012 9:07:02 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Hardraade

“Request:

W88! W88! W88!”

That’s a bit extreme to deal with an armed robber;)


28 posted on 11/28/2012 9:10:38 AM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Frank_2001

Not when the robber is the government...


29 posted on 11/28/2012 9:14:07 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: MrB

It is legal to make a gun without registration so long as it is just for your own use and does not fit in the “NFA” (machineguns etc) category.


30 posted on 11/28/2012 9:26:13 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: bgill

Registration is a state or local issue. In many states you can make and possess a firearm without any government involvement whatsoever.


31 posted on 11/28/2012 9:35:43 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: ctdonath2

thx for the clarification...

So, I can make a “zip gun” and the ATF has no problem?

Are you sure?

Because it seems to me the ATF was really interested in some folks’ “potato guns” a few years back:

“ATF has previously examined “potato guns” or “spud guns” as described above and has generally determined that such devices using potatoes as projectiles and used solely for recreational purposes are not weapons and do not meet the definition of “firearm” or “destructive device” in either the NFA or GCA. However, ATF has classified such devices as “firearms” and “destructive devices” if their design, construction, ammunition, actual use, or intended use indicate that they are weapons. For example, ATF has classified such devices as “firearms” and “destructive devices” if they are designed and used to expel flaming tennis balls.

Possession and use of “potato guns” or “spud guns” may be restricted under State laws and local ordinances. Further, any person intending to make, use, or transfer any such device must be aware that they have a potential for causing serious injury or damage.”


32 posted on 11/28/2012 9:39:29 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: marktwain
Will Megan Fox fit into the scanner?


33 posted on 11/28/2012 10:07:28 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: paul544

Read that drugs could also printed...scary thought if possible


34 posted on 11/28/2012 10:10:25 AM PST by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: MrB

Revisit my qualification. You can build whatever you want without registration so long as the gun is not in the NFA category. Any gun with a barrel over 0.5” (standard sporting shotguns excluded) is a “destructive device”, which is covered by NFA law, requiring a $200 manufacture tax plus registration ... and tennis balls & potatoes are larger than 0.5”.


35 posted on 11/28/2012 10:28:34 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: DManA

High end versions can. The military is looking at using them for on-site fabrication.


36 posted on 11/28/2012 10:30:16 AM PST by Little Ray (I have VOTED AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Carthego delenda est

Reminds me of the James Bond film, “Man with a Golden Gun” where it was made from a cigarette case, light, pen and cufflink.


37 posted on 11/28/2012 10:53:22 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: marktwain

Just get me the 3d plans for the same surface to air missiles ( 10 to 20 thousand ) now in the hands of the mujahadeen of Libya , after Gadaffis fall which was created treasonously by POSHITUS betrayal.

I figure I can use one of those at some point to send POSHITUS my ballot, since the Obama campaign defrauded us of our vote and denied access of official Republican scrutineers at counting stations all over the country.

We can call it American Spring.


38 posted on 11/28/2012 10:55:24 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: MrB
I’m sure there are laws against “manufacturing” without a “license”.

I guess it would come down to keeping your mouth shut and keeping people you trust with your life close to you.
39 posted on 11/28/2012 10:57:43 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: Frank_2001; Hardraade

How about an “88 Magnum?” “It shoots through schools!” B-)


40 posted on 11/28/2012 11:01:11 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: Nowhere Man

is there a law against building your own automobile? no, registration is a operating on the road issue.

there is no law against building your own computer.

making your own sword.

making your own wine not for resale.

this should be no different.


41 posted on 11/28/2012 11:02:35 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: stuartcr
"It must be pretty expensive to make a reliable weapon."

What??? You wouldn't trust a gun made from sand and glue?

42 posted on 11/28/2012 6:33:19 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Charles Martel

I thought CavArms was put out of business by the BATF a while back for dabbling in 80% polymer receivers. I remember looking at one at a gun show and it would have taken about a half hour with a drill press to complete (essentially just enlarging existing undersized holes). After all, it does not take hardly any time to injection mould a plastic part.


43 posted on 11/29/2012 5:48:00 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: jim_trent
I know that CavArms was forced by BATFE to change the receiver design slightly - something about the way the serial number was affixed. I'm not sure what eventually forced them out of that particular business, but they sold the receiver design to GWACS Armory.

I don't recall them dabbling in 80% recievers, as their design is molded in halves that are friction-welded together. With the quality of adhesives out there these days, that might be a better plan than "printing" these things. Mold them in halves, then slap 'em together with JB Weld. It need not look pretty to work well.

44 posted on 11/29/2012 7:32:56 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Charles Martel

I remember looking at a table full of the 80% receivers (with attached stock and handgrip) several years ago. It was tempting, but I could not get past the polymer. That’s just me.

I don’t know all the details about their dealings with the BATF, but I thought they agreed to get out of the business to keep from getting further railroaded. Just affixing the serial number plate seems to be a very small problem that would not keep someone from continuing to produce the product.

I read what I could about their troubles with the BATF, but I think that both sides were deliberately keeping the details quiet. No doubt the BATF did that to deliberately put the scare in other 80% receiver suppliers. They closed down a bunch of them about that time (including those selling aluminum ones that needed a lot more work). In most cases, no one went to jail, but they had to spend a lot of money to keep from ending up there and quickly got out of the business. I think that was the real intent of the BATF — putting them out of business, whether guilty of something or not.


45 posted on 11/29/2012 10:43:01 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: marktwain
Defense Distributed spokesman Cody Wilson tells the UK’s Guardian that his company has the “logistics, time, resources and money” to start freely distributing blueprints that will let any hobbyist with a 3-D home printer make their own gun, and now it’s just up to Uncle Sam to sign off on a federal firearms license.

Uh, I'm lost. Exactly who is it that the author thinks needs a FFL? You don't need one to disseminate gun blueprints and you don't need one to manufacture guns for your own use (which would seem to be the intent here). So who exactly is it that needs the FFL?

46 posted on 11/29/2012 10:14:10 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: marktwain

Won’t be too far off we will see real replicators such as from Star Trek. Imagine inserting a custom 1911 pistol in one and punching up a couple dozen before breakfast?

And I bet the TSA has had a LOT of interesting back room discussions about this. Pistols that won’t detect like a pistol. Kinda like a Glock 7?


47 posted on 11/29/2012 10:19:14 PM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: Harold Shea
Read that drugs could also printed...scary thought if possible

It's not alchemy. The things don't print gold bars using sand as feedstock. Yes, if you had Vicodin powder you could probably print a Vicodin pill, but if you had Vicodin power, why would you need a Vicodin pill?

48 posted on 11/29/2012 10:19:39 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: driftdiver; marktwain

Missed this when it first was posted. Low-tech may indeed
be more feasible for many. In any case, those much more
knowledgable than I have said: guns are easy. ammunition
is hard.


49 posted on 12/02/2012 7:49:23 PM PST by cycjec
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To: bgill
Only the AR-15 lower has a serial number on it and that is what needs to be registered. You can currently buy non-serialized AR-15 lowers, which are perfectly legal. They are referred to as “unfinished ar 15 lowers”, a google search on phrase will return a lot of hits. They can legally be sold without a serial number because you need to finish the lower yourself. You can do so with a drill press and the jig the companies also sell.
50 posted on 12/02/2012 8:27:52 PM PST by SledgeCS (Good Men Died. Obama Lied. Impeach the LYING COWARD!!!)
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