Skip to comments.Free guns for everyone! Texas startup plans to distribute blueprints for 3-D printable firearms
Posted on 11/28/2012 8:05:27 AM PST by marktwain
Defense Distributed spokesman Cody Wilson tells the UKs Guardian that his company has the logistics, time, resources and money to start freely distributing blueprints that will let any hobbyist with a 3-D home printer make their own gun, and now its just up to Uncle Sam to sign off on a federal firearms license. Wilson doesnt think there will be any problem, though, and says his company plans to be approved and begin building prototypes in the coming weeks.
We're just waiting on a little piece of paper, Wilson says, which could be all the federal government needs to give them in order for Defense Distributed to start sending out schematics.
Earlier this year, another hobbyist from the US designed a 3-D printer-made gun that could fire multiple rounds, but that model relied on a few extra parts from firearm shops in order to work. One gun in the works from Defense Distributed will be entirely made using an at-home printer and another will use electronics to fire bullets, but otherwise those two products will be able to be pieced together with nothing more than a fully-loaded printer.
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W88! W88! W88!
What’s it made out of? Plastic?
"Hey buddy can I borrow your AR 15 for a couple of days?" Thanks.
How likely is it to blow up in your face?
Is it a virtual weapon? Paper? I don’t understand how this will work.
Another idea “stolen” from me.
3D printers “print” by depositing accumulative layers of a variety of materials, from plastics to ceramics to composites, including metals.
It’s called printing because it works in a similar fashion to ink-jet printers.
If this technology is perfected the possibilities of integrating a firearm into every day items is limitless. How about a 40 rd semi-auto disguised as a laptop. Or a 4 shot cell phone. Not to mention the problem of having ‘accessories’ match your outfit for the day are gone; just put a different color in the printer...
The low end 3d printers look like they cost about $4,000. Cool technology but the old fashioned metal tools are probably cheaper and easier.
HOME OF THE WIKI WEAPON. A NONPROFIT, COLLABORATIVE PROJECT TO CREATE FREELY AVAILABLE PLANS FOR 3D PRINTABLE GUNS.
OK, thanks. It must be pretty expensive to make a reliable weapon.
google “maker community”.
These are local community fabrication shops open to members.
Membership is monthly, and is affordable.
Upshot: these maker workshops could buy one or two of these printers (they usually have CNC’s), and you could go pop in a disk and use them.
3D printing has ramifications beyond firearms. In theory there are thousands of products that we currently buy which could be “printed” at home and assembled.
So, no serial numbers or registration?
Laser-sintered steel, I suspect.
I’m sure there are laws against “manufacturing” without a “license”.
For instance, you can get into some big trouble with the ATF for possessing a threaded tube and some steel wool.
Extremely likely , I'd say. Aricles produced by a 3D printer are suitable for design proto types only.
Really? I didn’t know 3D printers could produce steel articles. Interesting.
A good friend of mine works for a company that does just that, he is the actual machine/equipment operator. He is always regaling a few friends like myself of what he has been making and how well these items work in reality, how the technology is continuing to improve. He has told us on a number of occasions that 'some' in his trade have indeed done exactly what is being discussed here. He says it is something that must be seen to be really appreciated.
Not clear why they need a firearms license for this. An “exploded” drawing of an AK-47 is not required to be licensed. Why is a blueprint for a different kind of gun? Or any instructions about how to build a gun?
Steel printers are most likely more expensive than printers designed to print plastics. Some combine metallic powders with binding agents using fairly standard spray jets. Stainless steel objects can be printed this way.
I imagine you’d need a pretty high power lasar for that to work. Does it actually melt the steel?
That's why CavArms (and now GWACS Armory) make polymer lowers that have integral buttstocks, like so:
They've added material in the weak spot between the buttstock and the pistol grip. Note that the side walls of the part are thicker than the aluminum original. I suppose someone could measure one of those and create a file to "print" it, but it would cost a lot in terms of "toner".
W88! W88! W88!”
That’s a bit extreme to deal with an armed robber;)
Not when the robber is the government...
It is legal to make a gun without registration so long as it is just for your own use and does not fit in the “NFA” (machineguns etc) category.
Registration is a state or local issue. In many states you can make and possess a firearm without any government involvement whatsoever.
thx for the clarification...
So, I can make a “zip gun” and the ATF has no problem?
Are you sure?
Because it seems to me the ATF was really interested in some folks’ “potato guns” a few years back:
“ATF has previously examined “potato guns” or “spud guns” as described above and has generally determined that such devices using potatoes as projectiles and used solely for recreational purposes are not weapons and do not meet the definition of “firearm” or “destructive device” in either the NFA or GCA. However, ATF has classified such devices as “firearms” and “destructive devices” if their design, construction, ammunition, actual use, or intended use indicate that they are weapons. For example, ATF has classified such devices as “firearms” and “destructive devices” if they are designed and used to expel flaming tennis balls.
Possession and use of “potato guns” or “spud guns” may be restricted under State laws and local ordinances. Further, any person intending to make, use, or transfer any such device must be aware that they have a potential for causing serious injury or damage.”
Read that drugs could also printed...scary thought if possible
Revisit my qualification. You can build whatever you want without registration so long as the gun is not in the NFA category. Any gun with a barrel over 0.5” (standard sporting shotguns excluded) is a “destructive device”, which is covered by NFA law, requiring a $200 manufacture tax plus registration ... and tennis balls & potatoes are larger than 0.5”.
High end versions can. The military is looking at using them for on-site fabrication.
Reminds me of the James Bond film, “Man with a Golden Gun” where it was made from a cigarette case, light, pen and cufflink.
Just get me the 3d plans for the same surface to air missiles ( 10 to 20 thousand ) now in the hands of the mujahadeen of Libya , after Gadaffis fall which was created treasonously by POSHITUS betrayal.
I figure I can use one of those at some point to send POSHITUS my ballot, since the Obama campaign defrauded us of our vote and denied access of official Republican scrutineers at counting stations all over the country.
We can call it American Spring.
How about an “88 Magnum?” “It shoots through schools!” B-)
is there a law against building your own automobile? no, registration is a operating on the road issue.
there is no law against building your own computer.
making your own sword.
making your own wine not for resale.
this should be no different.
What??? You wouldn't trust a gun made from sand and glue?
I thought CavArms was put out of business by the BATF a while back for dabbling in 80% polymer receivers. I remember looking at one at a gun show and it would have taken about a half hour with a drill press to complete (essentially just enlarging existing undersized holes). After all, it does not take hardly any time to injection mould a plastic part.
I don't recall them dabbling in 80% recievers, as their design is molded in halves that are friction-welded together. With the quality of adhesives out there these days, that might be a better plan than "printing" these things. Mold them in halves, then slap 'em together with JB Weld. It need not look pretty to work well.
I remember looking at a table full of the 80% receivers (with attached stock and handgrip) several years ago. It was tempting, but I could not get past the polymer. That’s just me.
I don’t know all the details about their dealings with the BATF, but I thought they agreed to get out of the business to keep from getting further railroaded. Just affixing the serial number plate seems to be a very small problem that would not keep someone from continuing to produce the product.
I read what I could about their troubles with the BATF, but I think that both sides were deliberately keeping the details quiet. No doubt the BATF did that to deliberately put the scare in other 80% receiver suppliers. They closed down a bunch of them about that time (including those selling aluminum ones that needed a lot more work). In most cases, no one went to jail, but they had to spend a lot of money to keep from ending up there and quickly got out of the business. I think that was the real intent of the BATF — putting them out of business, whether guilty of something or not.
Uh, I'm lost. Exactly who is it that the author thinks needs a FFL? You don't need one to disseminate gun blueprints and you don't need one to manufacture guns for your own use (which would seem to be the intent here). So who exactly is it that needs the FFL?
Won’t be too far off we will see real replicators such as from Star Trek. Imagine inserting a custom 1911 pistol in one and punching up a couple dozen before breakfast?
And I bet the TSA has had a LOT of interesting back room discussions about this. Pistols that won’t detect like a pistol. Kinda like a Glock 7?
It's not alchemy. The things don't print gold bars using sand as feedstock. Yes, if you had Vicodin powder you could probably print a Vicodin pill, but if you had Vicodin power, why would you need a Vicodin pill?
Missed this when it first was posted. Low-tech may indeed
be more feasible for many. In any case, those much more
knowledgable than I have said: guns are easy. ammunition