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Poland against new UN internet 'censorship threat'
The News PL ^ | November 27 2012

Posted on 11/28/2012 1:21:18 PM PST by knighthawk

Poland is to oppose a UN agency proposal to renegotiate an international internet treaty which critics say would threaten freedom of expression on the web.

The UN International Telecommunication Union (ITU) is to meet behind closed doors in Dubai between 3 and 14 December, where 193 countries are being asked to agree a new information and communications International Telecommunication Regulations (ITR) treaty, which would change the way domain names are monitored and IP addresses are assigned.

The effect of the new treaty would be to take away the domain name system and other technical specifications, currently run by organisations in the US, and give them to a new international body.

The Polish government has said, however, that it will oppose the changes to the treaty.

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KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; firstamendment; freedomofspeech; internet; poland; speech; un
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1 posted on 11/28/2012 1:21:29 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: MizSterious; Nix 2; green lantern; BeOSUser; Brad's Gramma; dreadme; Turk2; keri; ...

Ping


2 posted on 11/28/2012 1:22:08 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: knighthawk

How about a little ‘solidarity’ with that!


3 posted on 11/28/2012 1:22:49 PM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: knighthawk

The Poles know and understand what is like to be “under someone’s thumb” and they don’t like it.


4 posted on 11/28/2012 1:24:28 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty ( Fast and Furious , Benghazi - What's 0bama's current body count?)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Michael Medved read an article by a Polish writer who expressed alarm that the Polish people see America drifting toward Socialism. They are truly alarmed.


5 posted on 11/28/2012 1:29:35 PM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: righttackle44
Michael Medved read an article by a Polish writer who expressed alarm that the Polish people see America drifting toward Socialism. They are truly alarmed.

Yep... 47.5% of Americans are, too. Unfortunately, 51% are diggin' it.

6 posted on 11/28/2012 1:34:07 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: knighthawk

—Google has launched a ‘Take Action’ web site, which invites internet users to sign a petition against the proposed changes in the UN ITU treaty.
“Some proposals could permit governments to censor legitimate speech - or even allow them to cut off internet access,” Google claims.
“Other proposals would require services like YouTube, Facebook, and Skype to pay new tolls in order to reach people across borders. —

They may be right, but I hate google anyway! Just a spy agency!


7 posted on 11/28/2012 1:34:07 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: righttackle44

Muslims will get Blasphemy laws ,internet style


8 posted on 11/28/2012 1:35:56 PM PST by molson209
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To: righttackle44
...the Polish people see America drifting toward Socialism. They are truly alarmed.

They are correct, except with 0bama at the wheel, we aren't drifting but driving "pedal to the metal" toward socialism!

9 posted on 11/28/2012 1:37:59 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty ( Fast and Furious , Benghazi - What's 0bama's current body count?)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

They seem to enjoy being under the EU’s thumb.


10 posted on 11/28/2012 1:42:03 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Just as much as we enjoy hosting the U.N.!


11 posted on 11/28/2012 1:45:44 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: righttackle44

And under the EU, Poland’s not drifting back towards socialism?

Hard to get news without the clutter anymore.


12 posted on 11/28/2012 1:46:30 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Revolting cat!
What’s sad is that it is pretty much the same thing no matter what. The EU’s constitution/treaties all say that all that they do is with “respect for the principles of the United Nations charter” (Article 3 section 5 TEU, Treaty of Lisbon). The UN is a monster that should have died back in 1947, never mind the EU.
13 posted on 11/28/2012 1:49:56 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Poland has really come a long way as a nation. From a Jew hating oppressive state prior to and during the Nazi years, and a freedom crushing state under the Russians, to a pro-life pro-free speech pro-capitalist nation it is now.


14 posted on 11/28/2012 2:11:12 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Sam Gamgee
Poland has really come a long way as a nation. From a Jew hating oppressive state prior to and during the Nazi years, and a freedom crushing state under the Russians, to a pro-life pro-free speech pro-capitalist nation it is now.

I can't agree with you, Poland has been a place where people of different believes found their refugee for hundreds of years. Please read this:
"From the beginning of its statehood, different religion coexisted in Poland. In the 16th and 17th centuries, Poland was famous for its unique religious tolerance reasserted by the Statute of Kalisz (1264) and the Warsaw Confederation (1573)."
15 posted on 11/29/2012 12:24:27 AM PST by Verdelet (Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori!)
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To: Sam Gamgee; Verdelet
Sam -- you're talking through your hat. I live in Poland and have history as a hobby -- I'm not Polish nor of Polish origin (my wife is) and your statements are completely wrong to anyone who has read any amount of history

Do you know that Jews were invited to live in Poland by the kings when they were thrown out of England and Germany and Spain? And that they, forget about being persecuted, got rights as equals and these were safeguarded by the kings?

Do you know that Jews in the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth (1389-1793) were pretty much governing themselves and lived in peace -- in the late 1700s they comprised nearly 80% of world Jewry.

Do you know that the Hebrew joke was for 'polonia' (Poland in Latin) to be read as poh-lan-ya (God rests here). In the words osponsa No. 73 of the great Kraków rabbi Moses Isserles 'Remuh' (1510-72): "It is better to live on dry bread, but in peace, in Poland.">

do you know that the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth (from 1389 to 1793) was religiously tolerant? The Poles were Catholics, but Orthodox Ruthenians, Armenian Orthodox, Jews, Unitarians (Polish Brethern), Calvinists and Lutherans as well as Moslem Tartars were free to live,govern themselves and were unmolested and free to practise their religion?

Where do you get this "Jew hating" idea from? Do you know that the largest number of people in Israel's Yad Vashem for "righteous among the gentiles" are Poles?

Do you know that the Nazis considered Polish Gentiles the second race to be exterminated after Jews? And did you know that only in Nazi occupied Poland, if anyone was caught harboring, or even giving a Jew food, they would be sentenced to death with their family? And yet, even then, many Jews were helped?

"Jew hating" -- that's among the most ignorant statements I've heard so far -- to call a nation that was almost a land for Jews (80%) "Jew hating" is ignorant to say the least

16 posted on 11/29/2012 4:22:27 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Sam Gamgee; Verdelet
"freedom crushing state under the Russians" is somewhat correct

Yet, under the first occupation by the Russians (from 1772 to 1918 -- and from 1793 to 1918 poland was wiped off the map, torn into 3 parts by Russia, Prussia and Austria and the partitioning powers had a pact to not even mention the name of Poland) -- during that first occupation, they had 5 uprisings in which Poles, Jews, Lithuanians and Ruthenians participated to recreate the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth -- they were not part of any "freedom crushing state"

Under the second Russian, Soviet occupation, communism never sat well on Poland -- Stalin famously said that "communism in Poland is like putting a saddle on a cow" -- it barely worked and this was because the Soviets didn't try to collectivize the farms (as they did in the USSR and Czechia etc.) and allowed some private businesses after Stalin died

The communist government there did join the rest of the USSR's satellites in crushing the Hungarian spring in '56, but the communists had no real support -- trying to implement an atheistic and globalistic ideology on the Poles who had been denied statehood for 150 years was impossible

17 posted on 11/29/2012 4:27:41 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Verdelet

correct about the religious tolerance — while Germania had the 30 years war, Protestants and Catholics were living together in Poland-Lithuania


18 posted on 11/29/2012 4:29:51 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Verdelet

I was under the impression that in the early years of the immigration to Palestine, many Jews came from Poland because of prejudice they found there?


19 posted on 11/29/2012 11:08:10 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Cronos
I am more than willing to stand corrected and I hope what you say is true. I got the impression that Jews were basically left to their own devices during the resistance against the Nazis because Polish freedom fighters didn't want Jews in their ranks. Also that Jews fled Poland to Palestine in the early 1900s because of persecution in Poland?
20 posted on 11/29/2012 11:11:26 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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