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Forbes Releases List Of 11 "Death Spiral" States
Real Clear Politics ^

Posted on 11/29/2012 4:41:58 PM PST by TigerClaws

FOX News: A writer at Forbes Magazine has identified a phenomenon called the “death spiral states.” The category includes 11 states where private sector workers are outnumbered by people who are dependent on the government. That number would include state workers, and people who are receiving welfare or pension. For example, in California the ratio of “takers versus makers” is bigger than one. If you own a software company that employs 100 people, you’re supporting 139 other people in the state who are on the “takers” list.

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To: SandRat

New Mexico is full of watermelons (green on the outside and red on the inside) and they have wrecked the State. Sad.


21 posted on 11/29/2012 6:12:22 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: blam
Redstone Arsenal, Rocket City (Huntsville), is probably receiving serious federal money.

Also, Fort Rucker and the AF base in Montgomery supports a huge retired population, and don't forget the very large retired population living in the vicinity of now-defunct Fort McClellan at Anniston.

In fact, I'd say that the so-called "entitled" population of Alabama is hugely comprised of retired military personnel, all of which usually vote a conservative ticket.

So...I'm not convinced that labeling Alabama as a death spiral state,when compared to, say Ohio, is valid.

22 posted on 11/29/2012 7:21:28 PM PST by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: OldSmaj

Just because a state did not vote for Obama does not mean it is being run well. Look at the criteria to make the list - unfunded liabilities are the top concern. There are about as many Republicans as Democrats who are willing to give away taxpayer money to government employees, I’m afraid. Politicians spend. It’s what people elect them to do.


23 posted on 11/29/2012 7:57:00 PM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: TigerClaws

No way in Hell NJ doesn’t belong on that list; we have a lot of takers, and are bleeding jobs and taxpayers like crazy. It was bad enough for people to elect Christie as governor (and I’m glad they did), but that was only because many of our takers can’t vote (illegals and/or felons). Our government workforce is bloated (even after layoffs of thousands due to our property tax cap), and the costs of our retirees are strangling us.

I think people will be investing in those southern states on the list long before they invest in NJ...


24 posted on 11/29/2012 8:07:55 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: OldSmaj
"In fact, I'd say that the so-called "entitled" population of Alabama is hugely comprised of retired military personnel, all of which usually vote a conservative ticket."

"So...I'm not convinced that labeling Alabama as a death spiral state,when compared to, say Ohio, is valid. "

I remember during the Iraqi war hearing on the radio that the State of Alabama had more people in the war than any other state except Texas.

The population of Alabama is less than metropolitan Houston. So...that seems reasonable.

25 posted on 11/29/2012 8:14:11 PM PST by blam
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To: TigerClaws
Alabama has become kind of a retirement state. A lot of snow birders came, and just stayed. It has a low cost of living, and that's good for retired people. The largest employer in the state is UAB The University of Alabama in Birmingham. Medical and research. Which is Government workers. Also Red Stone Arsenal, and NASA are government. A very high rate of veterans and reserve personnel. Four major military bases. Other then UAB, the state of Alabama isn't really doing a whole lot to expand it's government employee base. They have in the last decade been working to bring in plenty of private industry.
26 posted on 11/29/2012 8:45:54 PM PST by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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To: freedumb2003

I don’t see Mississippi on there — only Maine.


27 posted on 11/29/2012 9:00:40 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Hang'emAll
Amazing that Michigan is not number 1. What I’ve seen and heard it looks like a war zone.

Just the demoncrap pustules known as Detroit and Flint, which are run by low-life suckup Obama wannabes.

The rest of Michigan is pretty nice.

28 posted on 11/30/2012 1:25:58 AM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - V. Lenin)
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To: TigerClaws

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29 posted on 11/30/2012 1:44:44 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Slyfox

Look at the election county map for Michigan. Detroit is war zone rat handout central. Rest of that state is all red.

Really except for the major cities (New York, Detroit, Chicago, Philly, Cleveland, etc.) with black populations the rest of the UNITED STATES is red. We have 10 cities controlling the entire country now via paid for voters and scamming.


30 posted on 11/30/2012 4:15:44 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Excellence

srbfl


31 posted on 11/30/2012 10:42:40 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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