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To: stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; GOPsterinMA
RE :”They never explain anything. I’m surprised we still have the House.”

The one that ps me off to no end is entitlements.
Rs are so scared to admit they both are broke right NOW and generating debt NOW that they let Dems get away with saying they are fully funded, and wonder why no one believes them about needing reform.

In fact a Dem on CSPAN called in this morning and he said that SS should not be touched because ‘ SS takes in more money than it spends

The mod asked “How about the payroll tax cut ? Should that be extended?” (didnt mention FICA or SS and how they relate to above.

He replies :”Sure

If Republicans are not going to bother to explain why they want to do what they propose, then screw them . Hell, I did more than them by creating that video on SS and posting it to youtube

Not every rich guy >$250K is a small business owner yet if you listen to the Rs everys single one of them is a small business owner who hires employees because thats all they ever say in response to tax increase talk.
Most people know this is non-sense. Come up with something that sounds real.

37 posted on 11/30/2012 11:36:33 AM PST by sickoflibs (Has Bohner caved to Obama again yet?)
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To: sickoflibs

” The one that ps me off to no end is entitlements.
Rs are so scared to admit they both are broke right NOW and generating debt NOW that they let Dems get away with saying they are fully funded, and wonder why no one believes them about needing reform.”

Correct.

” Not every rich guy >$250K is a small business owner yet if you listen to the Rs everys single one of them is a small business owner who hires employees because thats all they ever say in response to tax increase talk.
Most people know this is non-sense.”

The proportion is higher than you might know. In California it is hundreds of thousands. Forgetting this, there are a dozen ways tax increases hurt the economy, and you are correct that none of it is ever explained by Republicans. They are stuck on COWARD, and stuck on STUPID.


38 posted on 11/30/2012 11:46:38 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; GOPsterinMA
They never explain anything. I’m surprised we still have the House.

The one that ps me off to no end is entitlements.  Rs are so scared to admit they both are broke right NOW and generating debt NOW that they let Dems get away with saying they are fully funded, and wonder why no one believes them about needing reform.  In fact a Dem on CSPAN called in this morning and he said that SS should not be touched because ‘ SS takes in more money than it spends”

I do believe we need entitlement change.  (I believe you were addressing Medicare and Social Security here.  If that assumption is incorrect, please mention it.)  The type of change I would like to see does not involve folks who spent 40-50 years working under the old system, only to be told they get less and less now that they can't work any longer.  Instead it involves converting the entitlement programs into private investment driven enterprises, which over a rather short period of time returns us to solvency as the older generation dies off.  Under the new program, future retirees would see their whole lives changed through creative initiatives.

The mod asked “How about the payroll tax cut ? Should that be extended?” (didnt mention FICA or SS and how they relate to above.  He replies :”Sure”  And this guy was waiting to be plucked this election, and we probably didn't get him.  What a shame.

If Republicans are not going to bother to explain why they want to do what they propose, then screw them.  Agreed.  Hell, I did more than them by creating that video on SS and posting it to youtube

Not every rich guy >$250K is a small business owner yet if you listen to the Rs everys single one of them is a small business owner who hires employees because thats all they ever say in response to tax increase talk.  Most people know this is non-sense. Come up with something that sounds real.


We'll you're right here, but the issue of the percentage that is/isn't a small business owner, isn't the way it should be exploited.

It along with a number of other economic factors this idiot is clueless about, should be exploited to the end of outing this president for the economic 'nine year old' he is.

"We read with not a little amusement the president's proposals related to 'rich people' and how those makeing over $250,000 dollars per year are rich, and need to be taxed more.  Not everyone making over $250,000 is a small businessman, but the president failed to even address the fact that there are many small businessmen whose businesses exceed the $250,000 dollar limit by varying margins who none the less still file their taxes under a person income tax return.  This raises the glaring ignorance of the president yet again, as it relates to yet another aspect of economics."

"Does our president merely wish to cause these small businessmen to have to lay off employees, or does he want to put them out of business altogether?   Mr. President, the American public deserve better!"

"While we're pitting rich against poor, I'd like to ask folks who own a home worth $250,000 dollars, do they consider themselves to be RICH, and deserving of paying more taxes?"

"If you're in the midst of paying off your $250,000 dollar home, do you think you'll be a rich person when you have paid it off, deserving of paying more takes?"

"Mr. President, this class warfare game you're playing is beneath the dignity of this nation.  You could really use some night-school classes on Economics 101."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, that's all for now.  I'm sure we'll be back here tomorrow addressing another aspect of the clueless one's failing grasp of economic reality."


41 posted on 11/30/2012 12:28:13 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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