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Ignore GDP and the Fiscal Cliff, U.S. Is Already in Recession
Yahoo Finance ^ | 29 November 2012 | Aaron Task

Posted on 11/30/2012 2:10:50 PM PST by Lorianne

The U.S. economy grew 2.7% in the third quarter, up from a previously reported 2% the government reported Thursday. But the guts of the report raised some concern, notably a big increase in inventories and a big downward revision to consumer spending.

For most economists, the GDP report provides further evidence of a U.S. economy that's growing modestly, but far from robustly. For Lakshman Achuthan, co-founder of the Economic Cycle Research Institute, the report is a distraction from the real story: the U.S. economy is already in recession.

"The evidence is starting to mount a recession is already underway, and we're a few months into it," he says, suggesting the downturn began in July.

Jobs Set to Turn Down

"Employment is the odd man out" of the NBER's four key indicators, he admits. "[But] we do believe jobs are going to turn down and join the other indicators in their downturns" -- suggesting 2013 could get off to a very rough start.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: financialmeltdown

1 posted on 11/30/2012 2:11:02 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

But we were in recovery at the beginning of this month. What changed?


2 posted on 11/30/2012 2:16:35 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Lorianne

Who knew that after the election a plethora of negative data would be released?
We, who linger here, knew!


3 posted on 11/30/2012 2:22:06 PM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: Lorianne

a Recession is when your neighbor is out of work. A Depression is when you are out of work.


4 posted on 11/30/2012 2:31:26 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Lorianne

The democrats are happily setting up a new economic system. It sets up the hard-working honest people to work till they drop, paying huge taxes that go to the indolent slobs who vote democrat.

They don’t care if they put the country into a worse recession and destroy business.

The “cliff” is just a distraction.


5 posted on 11/30/2012 2:35:23 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: 5thGenTexan

The growth of 2.7 minus the inflation of 2.2 = real growth of only .5%. That is not a really meaningful figure within the limits of precision.

I t could really be 0 growth


6 posted on 11/30/2012 2:46:39 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: bert

Yup. This guy says it all.

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/11/30/cassandra-economy-personal-income-flat-chicago-pmi-new-orders-lowest-since-great-recession/


7 posted on 11/30/2012 3:06:57 PM PST by whitedog57
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To: Lorianne
I believe we are not in a recession, but we are in a real depression....brought on by Obama's doing actions that looked like ignorance but actually guaranteed that stimulus would fail. Now with OBAMACARE we are guaranteed to be held in permanent depression by unrelenting debt....thanks to Obama.

He DOES know what he is doing to America.

8 posted on 11/30/2012 3:28:36 PM PST by Rapscallion ( OBAMA: You own it now. See if you can govern it.)
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9 posted on 11/30/2012 3:58:20 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Rapscallion
I believe we are not in a recession, but we are in a real depression....brought on by Obama's doing actions that looked like ignorance but actually guaranteed that stimulus would fail. Now with OBAMACARE we are guaranteed to be held in permanent depression by unrelenting debt....thanks to Obama. He DOES know what he is doing to America.

Yep - he's been able to mask the effects of it by outrageous printing/spending, but that can't go on forever. When the bottom drops out, there will be riots in the streets and the government will "have no choice" but to step in, physically confiscate possessions from the "haves" to support the "have-nots" and we'll be done.

10 posted on 12/01/2012 3:59:24 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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