I'll See Your Economic Collapse and Raise You National Demise

The American Thinker ^ | 12-03-12 | Selwyn Duke

[pgkdan]

Being just weeks away from reaching our debt ceiling and with frightening talk about a fiscal cliff, there's much sympathy in Washington for tax increases. Even conservatives are wavering. A few Republicans have dumped their anti-tax pledges, and former Nixon official-turned-actor Ben Stein favors taxing the wealthy. He says that we can't cut our way to a balanced budget and insists that the revenue end must be addressed. But I have news for him: he'll have a better chance finding Ferris Bueller on his day off than he will locating fiscal sanity through tax increases.

[pgkdan]

Emphasis mine. I really like the 'Root and Branch' concept! I'm ashamed to be a part of the generation that oversaw the demise of a once great nation but I'm over that and ready to get on to the next stage.

[pgkdan]

Forget that part about emphasis mine...that was befoe I had to auto exerpt! Still a good read.

[Myrddin]

There is plenty of revenue, but the bastards can spend far faster than the producers can produce. This is about punishing the successful and making them as impoverished as the lazy ass EBT crowd. The collapse and riots are coming.

[frogjerk]

He says that we can't cut our way to a balanced budget

Step 1: I'm not sure how you can get out of financial problems if you don't even have a budget in the first place.
Step 2: There is always something you are wasting money on
Step 3: Grow your income using the best long term method possible. - taxing is not the answer but growth.

[Travis McGee]

Regional breakup will be better than living under federal Marxist tyranny.

[familyop]

Cut spending.

[MrB]

And from their point of view - what’s the use of implementing a Marxist tyranny if the people you want to tyrannize have escaped your grasp?

Gotta use force to keep them under your thumb.

[loveliberty2]

Today's jobs situation is the result of departure from our constitutional foundations. It has been brought about by the so-called "progressives'" takeover of the reins of government.

As for "job creation,"--just think about it. The most successful "experiment" in job and wealth creation is the one which began in 1776 in America, was protected and "secured" by a written Constitution that severely limited government, and it thrived for over two centuries. It provided an example of more liberty and opportunity, more productivity, and more goods and services than the world ever has seen.

It happened under what James Madison called "the benign influence of a responsible government."

While Europe struggled with oppressive government intervention, the genius Founders of America recognized enduring truths about human nature, the human tendency to abuse power, and the possibilities of liberty for individuals. Richard Frothingham's 1872 "History of the Rise of the Republic of the United States," Page 14, contained the following footnote item on the condition of citizens of France:

"Footnote 1. M. de Champagny (Dublin Review, April, 1868) says of France, 'We were and are unable to go from Paris to Neuilly; or dine more than twenty together; or have in our portmanteau three copies of the same tract; or lend a book to a friend: or put a patch of mortar on our own house, if it stands in the street; or kill a partridge; or plant a tree near the road-side; or take coal out of our own land: or teach three or four children to read, . .. without permission from the civil government.'

Clearly the government of France laid an oppressive regulatory and tax burden on citizens, robbing them of their Creator-endowed liberty and enjoyment thereof. Frothingham observed that such coercive power constituted "a noble form robbed of its lifegiving spirit."

Thomas Jefferson warned Americans:

"To preserve [the] independence [of the people,] we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account, but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:39

Note Jefferson's very last thought here. He declares that when government taxing and debt have reached certain levels, in order for individuals to survive, then their chosen "employment" becomes "hiring ourselves to rivet their (the government's) chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers."

Consider: in 2012, where are America's levels of employment most likely to increase? Is it in the once-thriving private sector, or in the ever-increasing government sector?

Have we reached that final phase of what Jefferson described as a logical end to what begins as letting "our rulers load us with perpetual debt"--a state where we actually become participants by "hiring ourselves" to make slaves of our fellow citizens?

Where to, America?

[GOPJ]

Democrats are going to destroy the country - and I doubt we can stop them... it’s time to rethink this mess. Dems are selfish short term thinkers - looters at heart. Maybe we can offer to buy our way out. We give them almost everything - then split the country into red and blue - and form our own country..

Dems can open the floodgates to every third world country - give everything away - you know - the usual. But we’ll have our own country and we can start over... Let’s give them whatever it takes to get the hell out of here.

[GOPJ]

Democrats are going to destroy the country - I doubt we can stop them... it’s time to rethink this mess. Dems are selfish short term thinkers - looters at heart. Maybe we can offer to buy our way out. We give them almost everything - then split the country into red and blue - and form our own country..

Dems can open the floodgates to every third world country - give everything away - you know - the usual. But we’ll have our own country and we can start over... Let’s give them whatever it takes to get the hell out of here.

[riri]

We are getting like Israel, at that point, ceding more and more real estate, only in our case,to communism.

It would only work if we find some tried and true method to keep leftism out of our culture and government. Not sure how we could do that but I'd imagine it is possible for a few generations, at least.

They'd be back to infiltrating our cultural institutions and gov't in no time...and we'd be at square one.

[neverdem]

BTTT!

[griswold3]

The need to educate the dumb masses about ‘baseline budgeting’ is great! The so called cuts are not a decrease in spending, it is a decrease in the rate of spending.
We’re so screwed.

[Fledermaus]

Ben Stein is an idiot and his father was a BIGGER idiot. He advised Nixon to impose wage and price controls (how did that work out Ben? Ben? Ben? Ben?)