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Seriously, ever hit a grocery store after midnight? The aisles are loaded with pallets of stuff coming in. If that stopped even for two days, the shelves would be empty.

People cannot now conceive how insane and how quickly it would all happen. If it were to happen right now, by this weekend there would be dead bodies by the side of the road.

I just watched "The War of the Worlds" (Tom Cruise version) this weekend. The scene near the bridge when he came through the crowd with his car was very instructive. Civilization's veneer is very thin - you see proof of that just going for a parking spot or trying to merge into traffic every day. We see it yearly on Black Friday, as people turn on each other just to save $5 or $10 on the latest piece of garbage for their kids. People are just smart animals, and we are generally ruled by fear and greed.

I don't want to be near any crowds at all when the SHTF - the best way to walk away from a fight is not to avoid it in the first place.

Oh, and there were very few guns in The War of the Worlds - which is not reflective of reality at all, even in the Northeast (where I grew up). In the South and West there are generally more guns than people. The carnage during food shortages will be shocking to most. Stock up on your bullets, beans and band aids and practice your skills NOW, while there's time to do so.

We didn't need Hollywood to show us how the low-lifes would react to a crisis. All we needed to do was remember the videos of Katrina. Even cops were looting. And they knew order would be restored within days, if not hours.

Imagine how those animals will act when they think order and the rule of law will never be restored.

"Civilization's veneer is very thin - you see proof of that just going for a parking spot or trying to merge into traffic every day. We see it yearly on Black Friday, as people turn on each other just to save $5 or $10 on the latest piece of garbage for their kids. People are just smart animals, and we are generally ruled by fear and greed."

Quark:"Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes."
"Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)" (1998)