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THE AMERICAN TRIBULATION: Can the greatest nation in history survive 4 more years of Obama?
WND ^ | December 04, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 12/04/2012 12:25:35 PM PST by Perseverando

Unthinkable. A cataclysmic disaster. The end of America as we know it.

That pretty much sums up how millions of Americans regard the re-election of Barack Obama.

Already, the White House website displays petitions from all 50 states bearing the names of hundreds of thousands of distraught citizens demanding their state secede from the union. States likewise are targeting the Obama administration with a major nullification movement. Meanwhile, Republicans engage in media blame-fests, denouncing each other for their devastating failure Nov. 6, while liberal pundits – pretending to offer them helpful advice – counsel Republicans to abandon their core values and move further to the left to gain more voters.

But amidst all of this sound and fury, the big question remains: What do the tens of millions of Americans – those who see Obama’s re-election as the national catastrophe it really is – do now? With four more years of the Obama juggernaut, with government still spending amounts of money only physicists can comprehend, with an average of 68 new regulations being imposed on Americans every single day, with devastating economic meltdown imminent and the world daily becoming a far more dangerous place because of the U.S. president’s scandalous failure of leadership, what can and should right-thinking people do now?

This difficult question is dealt with forthrightly and comprehensively in the December issue of WND’s acclaimed Whistleblower magazine, titled “THE AMERICAN TRIBULATION: Can the greatest nation in history survive 4 more years of Obama?”

“This was a challenging issue to put together,” said Whistleblower Editor David Kupelian. “We didn’t want to sugar-coat the harsh reality of what has happened, but neither is it cause for good people to fall prey to hopelessness, anger or depression, nor to give up or drop out. Quite the opposite. This issue presents a

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1 posted on 12/04/2012 12:25:42 PM PST by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando
NO!

America is on its last legs NOW. The Chicago thug stole this election too..

2 posted on 12/04/2012 12:28:17 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Perseverando

It’s been said before, I’ll repeat it because I wholeheartedly agree:

The problem is not Obama, the problem is a populace stupid enough to trust someone like Obama with the office of President.

The USA is finished, we’re watching it die.


3 posted on 12/04/2012 12:29:05 PM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Perseverando

They got the question wrong by asking it backward.

Obama is the one who should be worried about surviving. If he doesn’t live up to his promises some homeboy will jump off the deep end


4 posted on 12/04/2012 12:29:05 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Perseverando

Perhaps we could learn from what the Egyptians are doing today to their sleazy, corrupt, without morals and education leader.

And let us remember, whatever faults that loser has, the quota-baby Obamadork has those faults X10. Oh, and the dork is a Muslim, too.


5 posted on 12/04/2012 12:29:29 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Perseverando

I think we’re past the point of no return


6 posted on 12/04/2012 12:30:43 PM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Perseverando

No, it cannot.


7 posted on 12/04/2012 12:32:17 PM PST by izzatzo
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To: Perseverando

Checking back later...


8 posted on 12/04/2012 12:33:09 PM PST by Wasichu
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To: brownsfan
How I Absorbed Three Punches and Stood Up Anyway
9 posted on 12/04/2012 12:33:44 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Da Coyote

We need to be doing the same thing the Egyptians are doing, except it needs to be done in DC, driving Obama and his minions out of town permanently, as well as many RINO Republicans.


10 posted on 12/04/2012 12:34:39 PM PST by izzatzo
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To: Perseverando

No. See my tagline.

I don’t know about everyone else but what I’m going to do is buy more Spam.


11 posted on 12/04/2012 12:34:49 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: brownsfan

[ he problem is not Obama, the problem is a populace stupid enough to trust someone like Obama with the office of President. ]

Its damned hard to fix stupid...


12 posted on 12/04/2012 12:35:45 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Perseverando

I got a report from a consulting group telling me that Obama will be hailed as the greatest president in history and will serve a third term.


13 posted on 12/04/2012 12:38:05 PM PST by sarasota
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To: Perseverando

We’ve survived worse. It ain’t over ‘til its over.

SnakeDoc


14 posted on 12/04/2012 12:38:52 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (Texas survived one Obama term, and we'll survive another. The rest of you are screwed.)
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To: Da Coyote

Morsi of Egypt has a PhD in Engineering from the University of Southern California.

He may be a wannabe Pharoah, but he’s not uneducated.


15 posted on 12/04/2012 12:41:46 PM PST by research99
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To: brownsfan

Sad but true...


16 posted on 12/04/2012 12:42:02 PM PST by DwFry (Baby Boomers Killed Western Civilization!)
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To: izzatzo

We need to do the same thing Francisco Franco did when the Communists and Socialists took control of the republic.


17 posted on 12/04/2012 12:42:09 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: SnakeDoctor

We’ve survived worse. It ain’t over ‘til its over.

I’m with you. Surviving WW1 WW2 when the whole world was at war must have been a scarey and uncertain time in many people’s lives.


18 posted on 12/04/2012 12:43:29 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: Perseverando

Yes, we can survive, but in what form? It will be rough, for sure, but what will Amerika (new spelling) look like in four years. I doubt anyone can predict, beyond being poorer with more crime and racial tension.


19 posted on 12/04/2012 12:43:45 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: SMARTY

Oh Ye of little faith!


20 posted on 12/04/2012 12:43:54 PM PST by Edgerunner (Second Amendment Spoken Here)
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To: brownsfan

I’m slowly starting to come around to the painful opinion that a country that would elect and reelect a cretin like this deserves whatever comes to it. Sometimes people just need to learn their lessons the hard way.


21 posted on 12/04/2012 12:44:29 PM PST by jpl (The government spent another half a million bucks in the time it just took you to read this tagline.)
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To: Perseverando
Can the greatest nation in history survive 4 more years of Obama?

This Country can't be knocked out by one punk. We'll get right back up again, and when we do, 0bama (and the Left) is gonna hear the roar of our engines. It's halftime America. Are you ready to win?

22 posted on 12/04/2012 12:46:27 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: sarasota
I got a report from a consulting group telling me that Obama will be hailed as the greatest president in history and will serve a third term.

Only when the water from my faucet flows with grape koolaid would I ever believe that.

23 posted on 12/04/2012 12:47:41 PM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's the OBOTS who are filling up prisons for violent crimes, not the Tea Party.)
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To: jpl

“I’m slowly starting to come around to the painful opinion that a country that would elect and reelect a cretin like this deserves whatever comes to it. Sometimes people just need to learn their lessons the hard way.”

The problem is, what is given up by the people in order to learn those lessons, may be lost forever.


24 posted on 12/04/2012 12:48:07 PM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Perseverando
the obozo won the election because of the votes coming from those other 7 states he thinks exists.
25 posted on 12/04/2012 12:50:05 PM PST by drypowder
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To: Perseverando

So now wnd has become Dianetics? Wow.


26 posted on 12/04/2012 12:51:50 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Perseverando

No. Add in a leaderless GOP and its clear we have already passed the
point of no return.


27 posted on 12/04/2012 12:53:16 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: research99

“Morsi of Egypt has a PhD in Engineering from the University of Southern California.

He may be a wannabe Pharoah, but he’s not uneducated.”

It is indeed sad to think that one with a superior education would stoop to become a politician.

(It should be a high calling, but given the “things” we currently have at top positions, I’m afraid that a purge would be a very rational choice.)


28 posted on 12/04/2012 12:53:56 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: SMARTY

Agreed....hunkering down for the big dive here.


29 posted on 12/04/2012 12:54:05 PM PST by MachIV
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To: Bitsy

WWI. WWII. Civil War — states at literal war with one another. Lincoln assassinated in the aftermath. There was a good chance the Republic would never recover. Great Depression. Far more trying times than these. Few Americans understand genuine poverty and hopelessness.

Maybe weakness has spread from the left into the right.

SnakeDoc


30 posted on 12/04/2012 12:58:15 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (Texas survived one Obama term, and we'll survive another. The rest of you are screwed.)
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To: Perseverando

If the question is “can America AS WE HAVE KNOWN IT survive another 4 years of Obama and leftist policies”, then no.

We will survive, but it will be at the price of a lower standard of living (perhaps lasting for generations) and less individual freedom due to enhanced governmental control/power. How much of a drop in standard of living? How much of a loss of freedom? How much governmental control? All we have to do is look at the nations of Europe to see the answers.

In the short term (next 10 years), most people will not even notice what has happened.


31 posted on 12/04/2012 12:58:32 PM PST by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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To: Perseverando

“THE AMERICAN TRIBULATION: Can the greatest nation in history survive 4 more years of Obama?”

No. Next question?


32 posted on 12/04/2012 12:59:18 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: SnakeDoctor; Servant of the Cross
We’ve survived worse.

Doubtful.

We've never been taken over from within, and this is a bunch of PC, Marxist, racist, America hating total incompetents at fixing anything except agrandizing their own power.

33 posted on 12/04/2012 1:00:42 PM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Perseverando

Can we survive the PARASITES that put him there!


34 posted on 12/04/2012 1:00:43 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: brownsfan
It’s been said before, I’ll repeat it because I wholeheartedly agree:

The problem is not Obama, the problem is a populace stupid enough to trust someone like Obama with the office of President.

The USA is finished, we’re watching it die.


I pull no punches anymore, I can't be afraid.

I feel like Queen Padme, "so this is how liberty dies ... with thunderous applause." We've always had wingnuts like OBummer run for the Presidency, Victoria Woodhull in the 1870s, Jessie Jackson in the 1980's and now OBummer. Back in the 1870's, the public was wise enough to see through that. In the 1980's, same. I thought this election would have been like 1980, bad economy, Iran causing trouble, high energy prices and so on, OBummer would be tossed out on his keester. Trouble is, we are not the same nation we were in 1980. You're right, although the problem is not OBummer per se and I do believe there is fraud, but there is enough sheeple out there that would vote for their "lord and saviour" OBummer.

I blame:

1. Voter fraud.

2. Most minorities. (Note, there are some who get it, many here on FR, I am NOT pointing the finger at you and I applaud you for seeing the light and I'd be glad to battle side by side with you against this, but as a group they lean left and many see it as revenge against capitalism and "Whitey."

3. Most single moms of all colors. They look at government as big daddy.

4. White guilt. See #2 and many Whites are badgered into feeling guilty and are afraid to challenge OBummer because he's Black. Well, as they say in Spanish, he is actually mulatto but when you look at him, he does "look Black" which is good enough in the eyes of the left.

5. Moochers and deadbeats that can would but are on the dole.

6. Illegals aliens and immigrants from the third world that do not understand us.

Note, if we had a Venn Diagram of all of this, there will be a lot of overlapping to be sure.

Let's face it, OBummer could go to downtown Pittsburgh with an Uzi, gun down 50 people in cold blood, tie tin cans to cats tails and make dogs eat their own vomit and people will still cheer, hoot and holler how much of a "messiah" he is and vote for him.
35 posted on 12/04/2012 1:01:02 PM PST by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: brownsfan

The US is already dead. Past saving, even on the erroneous assumption that it is worth saving, which I am of the opinion it is not.

My daughter and 2 of her cousins are productive members of society. All the other cousins are worthless leeches that do nothing, collect benefits, have babies and mooch off parents.

Something like 2 (or 3) to 1 mooches to producers. One has had 7 illegitimate children that the state has taken away (eventually). And these are people that have been supposedly raised middle class.

And every damn one of them thinks we all owe them everything they want.

We are outnumbered, getting more so by the day. It is mathematically impossible for the US to ever return to productive prosperity. The time to prepare is running out.


36 posted on 12/04/2012 1:03:58 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: SnakeDoctor
Few Americans understand genuine poverty and hopelessness.

The great depression in America happened when people were more civil and disciplined. The hungry mobs are not going to wait in bread lines they will just take what they need because most will be barbaric. The obamaites have never starved. They are in for a shock!

37 posted on 12/04/2012 1:04:11 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: F15Eagle

Heck, I can remember when I used to think a million dollars was some serious money.


38 posted on 12/04/2012 1:04:34 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Nowhere Man
Errata: 5. Moochers and deadbeats that can would WORK but are on the dole.
39 posted on 12/04/2012 1:04:40 PM PST by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: Perseverando

Its already finished....the Constitutional Freedoms required for individual productivity and wealth creation form God’s gifts have LONG been gone....the debt level is testament to this.

The ability to continue to incur debt has papered this over...but as soon as military sequestration goes through...and the rest of the world realizes we can no longer project military stability-just as with the Fall of Rome-our interest rates will smoke...and end the debt masquerade.


40 posted on 12/04/2012 1:07:12 PM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: All

I don’t think we are dead, but need to rise like a Phoenix. Whether it is in our current form or some other, such as a breakup of the US and we survive as a rump republic, who knows, but at some point, the torch of liberty will burn again. The big questions are when and how.


41 posted on 12/04/2012 1:07:58 PM PST by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: brownsfan
“The USA is finished, we’re watching it die.”

Given you are a Brown's fan, I understand your pessimism, but I think we can turn things around. It's just not going to be easy. In my view we can't afford to think election to election, but need to have a longer term (e.g. next 8 years, next 16 years etc.) vision.

I strongly believe that we have to out-intellectualize the Democrats in the public arena, and make ourselves out as the ‘fresh’ choice and the smart choice. I don't mean pseudo-intellectual. I mean genuine ‘here are the facts, here is the best course, these are the reasons, here is the best way to modernize health-care, here is the best way to deal with global economic challenges, these are the best ways forward with our technological development, these are the best ways to facilitate economic growth and simultaneously have the best environmental policy, etc. etc. Doing this is just one necessary step.

We must also be strategic in the groups we go after, and start finding seams in the Democrat's coalition that we can use to split off some of their support. This is most definitely doable.

There are a lot of other things that need to go on this list, but the truth is that we actually do have the fresher and smarter message and plan, and if we do a better job making that clear we will be okay.

42 posted on 12/04/2012 1:08:56 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Lakeshark

>> We’ve never been taken over from within [...]

The Confederacy would disagree.

SnakeDoc


43 posted on 12/04/2012 1:09:08 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (Texas survived one Obama term, and we'll survive another. The rest of you are screwed.)
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To: Perseverando

“America” is not a geographical location. We all need to read our Founding Documents, hunker down, prepare as best we can, live as best we can. The cynical political elite have enriched themselves feeding at the trough; most of them are multi-millionaires to Monopoly money fortunes. May their ill gotten gains perish with them. I continue to pray for ‘em, that the Lord will grant them correction. - The Governments of Man are altogether corrupt. The real America was the last best hope of man on earth; so now - Maranatha!


44 posted on 12/04/2012 1:14:56 PM PST by Twinkie (The WICKED walk on every side when EVIL men are exalted. Psalm 12:8)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Our country needs to go back to a love and fear (awe-struck respect) for the Lord and obeying the 10 commandments.

Why did we not have government entitlements before the 30’s? General Judeo Christian values. The commandment against coveting (wanting your neighbor’s stuff) and against stealing. People were downright ASHAMED to take charity (aside from occassional help from family during down and out times, for as brief a period as possible.) They were ASHAMED to run up debts. Things were evaluated on moral values rather than just “what can I get for myself” mentality”.

Marriages and families were strong because people respected the commandment against adultery, there was not a huge population of single moms, therefore no need for a huge percentage of the population to look to big daddy government. Etc. Etc. Almost all of the categories of people who are causing the ruination of this country would not be doing so if they feared the Lord and obeyed His word in the Bible.

It’s as simple as an old time Sunday school lesson.


1.You shall have no other gods before me.

2.You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

3.You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

4.Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

5.Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

6.You shall not murder.

7.You shall not commit adultery.

8.You shall not steal.

9.You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

10.You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”


45 posted on 12/04/2012 1:16:17 PM PST by boxlunch
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To: sarasota

What’s the name of this consulting group.

I’d like to get advice from them. :)


46 posted on 12/04/2012 1:18:19 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: drypowder

fyi, there are 57 member states or terrorist organizations in the international Organisation of Islamic Cooperation.

(Obama didn’t get the number 57 from the ass-end of a ketchup bottle...)


47 posted on 12/04/2012 1:18:29 PM PST by faithhopecharity (--)
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To: Perseverando

America will not survive. It’s past the point of no return.


48 posted on 12/04/2012 1:20:06 PM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: SnakeDoctor
The Confederacy would disagree.

Not comparable.

They didn't have half of the country sucking at the government teat. Nor was the Union taken over by Marxists who hated the founders. Neither the North or the South had become taken over by a bunch listless, self loathing "progressives". Neither side would recognize what America has become today.

LS.

:-)

49 posted on 12/04/2012 1:21:01 PM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: izzatzo
We need to be doing the same thing the Egyptians are doing, except it needs to be done in DC, driving Obama and his minions out of town permanently, as well as many RINO Republicans.

Bingo! Only they mustn't be allowed to escape.
50 posted on 12/04/2012 1:21:34 PM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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