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THE AMERICAN TRIBULATION: Can the greatest nation in history survive 4 more years of Obama?
WND ^ | December 04, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 12/04/2012 12:25:35 PM PST by Perseverando

Unthinkable. A cataclysmic disaster. The end of America as we know it.

That pretty much sums up how millions of Americans regard the re-election of Barack Obama.

Already, the White House website displays petitions from all 50 states bearing the names of hundreds of thousands of distraught citizens demanding their state secede from the union. States likewise are targeting the Obama administration with a major nullification movement. Meanwhile, Republicans engage in media blame-fests, denouncing each other for their devastating failure Nov. 6, while liberal pundits – pretending to offer them helpful advice – counsel Republicans to abandon their core values and move further to the left to gain more voters.

But amidst all of this sound and fury, the big question remains: What do the tens of millions of Americans – those who see Obama’s re-election as the national catastrophe it really is – do now? With four more years of the Obama juggernaut, with government still spending amounts of money only physicists can comprehend, with an average of 68 new regulations being imposed on Americans every single day, with devastating economic meltdown imminent and the world daily becoming a far more dangerous place because of the U.S. president’s scandalous failure of leadership, what can and should right-thinking people do now?

This difficult question is dealt with forthrightly and comprehensively in the December issue of WND’s acclaimed Whistleblower magazine, titled “THE AMERICAN TRIBULATION: Can the greatest nation in history survive 4 more years of Obama?”

“This was a challenging issue to put together,” said Whistleblower Editor David Kupelian. “We didn’t want to sugar-coat the harsh reality of what has happened, but neither is it cause for good people to fall prey to hopelessness, anger or depression, nor to give up or drop out. Quite the opposite. This issue presents a

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To: All

I don’t think we are dead, but need to rise like a Phoenix. Whether it is in our current form or some other, such as a breakup of the US and we survive as a rump republic, who knows, but at some point, the torch of liberty will burn again. The big questions are when and how.


41 posted on 12/04/2012 1:07:58 PM PST by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: brownsfan
“The USA is finished, we’re watching it die.”

Given you are a Brown's fan, I understand your pessimism, but I think we can turn things around. It's just not going to be easy. In my view we can't afford to think election to election, but need to have a longer term (e.g. next 8 years, next 16 years etc.) vision.

I strongly believe that we have to out-intellectualize the Democrats in the public arena, and make ourselves out as the ‘fresh’ choice and the smart choice. I don't mean pseudo-intellectual. I mean genuine ‘here are the facts, here is the best course, these are the reasons, here is the best way to modernize health-care, here is the best way to deal with global economic challenges, these are the best ways forward with our technological development, these are the best ways to facilitate economic growth and simultaneously have the best environmental policy, etc. etc. Doing this is just one necessary step.

We must also be strategic in the groups we go after, and start finding seams in the Democrat's coalition that we can use to split off some of their support. This is most definitely doable.

There are a lot of other things that need to go on this list, but the truth is that we actually do have the fresher and smarter message and plan, and if we do a better job making that clear we will be okay.

42 posted on 12/04/2012 1:08:56 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Lakeshark

>> We’ve never been taken over from within [...]

The Confederacy would disagree.

SnakeDoc


43 posted on 12/04/2012 1:09:08 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (Texas survived one Obama term, and we'll survive another. The rest of you are screwed.)
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To: Perseverando

“America” is not a geographical location. We all need to read our Founding Documents, hunker down, prepare as best we can, live as best we can. The cynical political elite have enriched themselves feeding at the trough; most of them are multi-millionaires to Monopoly money fortunes. May their ill gotten gains perish with them. I continue to pray for ‘em, that the Lord will grant them correction. - The Governments of Man are altogether corrupt. The real America was the last best hope of man on earth; so now - Maranatha!


44 posted on 12/04/2012 1:14:56 PM PST by Twinkie (The WICKED walk on every side when EVIL men are exalted. Psalm 12:8)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Our country needs to go back to a love and fear (awe-struck respect) for the Lord and obeying the 10 commandments.

Why did we not have government entitlements before the 30’s? General Judeo Christian values. The commandment against coveting (wanting your neighbor’s stuff) and against stealing. People were downright ASHAMED to take charity (aside from occassional help from family during down and out times, for as brief a period as possible.) They were ASHAMED to run up debts. Things were evaluated on moral values rather than just “what can I get for myself” mentality”.

Marriages and families were strong because people respected the commandment against adultery, there was not a huge population of single moms, therefore no need for a huge percentage of the population to look to big daddy government. Etc. Etc. Almost all of the categories of people who are causing the ruination of this country would not be doing so if they feared the Lord and obeyed His word in the Bible.

It’s as simple as an old time Sunday school lesson.


1.You shall have no other gods before me.

2.You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

3.You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

4.Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

5.Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

6.You shall not murder.

7.You shall not commit adultery.

8.You shall not steal.

9.You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

10.You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”


45 posted on 12/04/2012 1:16:17 PM PST by boxlunch
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To: sarasota

What’s the name of this consulting group.

I’d like to get advice from them. :)


46 posted on 12/04/2012 1:18:19 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: drypowder

fyi, there are 57 member states or terrorist organizations in the international Organisation of Islamic Cooperation.

(Obama didn’t get the number 57 from the ass-end of a ketchup bottle...)


47 posted on 12/04/2012 1:18:29 PM PST by faithhopecharity (--)
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To: Perseverando

America will not survive. It’s past the point of no return.


48 posted on 12/04/2012 1:20:06 PM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: SnakeDoctor
The Confederacy would disagree.

Not comparable.

They didn't have half of the country sucking at the government teat. Nor was the Union taken over by Marxists who hated the founders. Neither the North or the South had become taken over by a bunch listless, self loathing "progressives". Neither side would recognize what America has become today.

LS.

:-)

49 posted on 12/04/2012 1:21:01 PM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: izzatzo
We need to be doing the same thing the Egyptians are doing, except it needs to be done in DC, driving Obama and his minions out of town permanently, as well as many RINO Republicans.

Bingo! Only they mustn't be allowed to escape.
50 posted on 12/04/2012 1:21:34 PM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: Nowhere Man; All


Do you really think the American people reelected the Marxist/Muslim usurper- positively the worst president of the United Stated in American history?

Absolutely not. The only way Obama won was through massive voter fraud.

Almost every major Conservative website has put out an article charging voter fraud- Breitbart, American Thinker, Atlas Shrugs, WND, The Blaze, Front Page Magazine, Fox News, The Daily Caller, Town Hall, Human Events..


What most refuse to acknowledge is that it was unlikely that ANYBODY could have beaten the voter fraud planned and perpetrated by the Obama machine. They seem to prefer pointing fingers, blaming Romney and blathering on about who to run in 2016 and how to suck up to the minorities.

>Polls indicated that Romney was going to win the election.

>The economy is close to Great Depression era conditions, and unemployment is almost as high as when Obama entered office.

>Economic conditions became so dire after Obama took office it prompted the rise of an entire new movement, the Tea Party.

>Presidents rarely win reelection when the economy is in the tank.

>Mitt knew it too, when he was met by several thousand in that parking garage cheering him when he arrived unannounced at that airport, and he put his hand over his heart and said, 'This is how you know you've won'.

So how did Romney lose a race that numerous reputable polls and pundits predicted would be an easy win, based on historical patterns?

Massive voter fraud.

That and no other reason



We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.

We must act NOW.

Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.

We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....





Can't you just imagine this was the scene with Obama and his Commie staff after stealing the election through voter fraud- while Conservatives blame Romney, argue, point fingers, blather on about who to run in four years, 'starting a new party', and try to figure out how to suck up to minorities the 'next time'?



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Map from Barack Obama Voter Fraud 2012

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Col Allen West; "I don't want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people don’t trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic".

Col West has opened the door.

We must fight election fraud.

It falls on ‘We the People’.

Silence is consent
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These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it won’t do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan: Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. See contact information below...

Read the rest- Here

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CANADA FREE PRESS: Here

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The website,'Barack Obama Vote Fraud 2012' is keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:

(Astonishing!) > Visit the site- Here
Obama Voter Fraud on FaceBook- Here

Sign this petition- over 99,000 and counting -cards, email- Here

Sign the ‘We The People’ petition. It has 60,000 signatures and counting- Here

WND List of voter fraud reports Here
ATLAS SHRUGS voter fraud list. Here


Click here and sign the petition for a recount Here-

< Hannity and Col Allan West slam voter fraud Nov 12- Here

Photo of SOMALIANS brought to Ohio voting stations by the busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket- Here

'Human Events', report pollwatcher eyewitness to busload of Somalians at Ohio poll, spoke no English, told to vote Obama Here

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Must watch videos!

VIDEO-- Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting- Here

VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers- Here

VIDEO- MICHAEL SAVAGE: How Obama fixed the 2012 election- Here

VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April- Here

VIDEO- Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud- Here



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Voter fraud from Tea Party: Here

The American Dream- 22 Signs That Voter Fraud Is Wildly Out Of Control And The Election Was A Sham: Here

Town Hall : Obama Likely Won The Election Through Voter Fraud: Here

American Thinker: Was The Election Stolen:? Here

WSVN-TV Almost 1K Ballots Found In Broward Elections Warehouse: Here

Pundit Press; In Florida Obama Got Over 99% In Broward County Precincts: Here

Natural News.com: 19,605 to Zero IS Statistical Proof Of Outright Vote Fraud in 2012 Presidential Election: Here

Realville, USA: The Great Election Robbery of 2012? Here

WND: Here's How Touchscreens Killed Romney Votes: Here

The American Dream: Election Fraud? Obama Won More Than 99% Of The Vote in More Than 100 Ohio Precincrs: Here

WND: The Big List Of Voter Fraud Reports: Here

Nachum's List of Voter Fraud: Here

MORE:

Newt Gingrich 360: Here

Appalachian Forums: Here

Before It's News: Here

WND: Here

Political Outcast: Here

True The Vote: Here

Fox News Insider: Here

Human Events; Here

The Will County News: Here

Fox News: Here

WND: Here

Townhall: Here

Breitbart Here

Accuracy In Media The Left's national voter fraud strategy exposed: Here

Thousands of military votes uncounted or missing: Here

Human Events: Here

Front Page Magazine: Here

The Blaze Here

The Daily Caller: Here

Front Page Magazine Here

Military Voter Protection Project: Here

BreitBart Here

Townhall: Here

Fox News Here

The Blaze Here






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The best Obama Exposure site on the net, The Obama File: Here

The United StatesLibrary of Congress has selected TheObamaFile.com for inclusion in its historic collection of Internet materials Here







51 posted on 12/04/2012 1:21:38 PM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN)
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To: Perseverando
Question: "...Can the greatest nation in history survive 4 more years of Obama?"

Response: I doubt it.

Comment: Is election brings the coming Social War much closer in time.

52 posted on 12/04/2012 1:24:57 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Perseverando
Question: "...Can the greatest nation in history survive 4 more years of Obama?"

Response: I doubt it.

Comment: HIs election brings the coming Social War much closer in time.

53 posted on 12/04/2012 1:24:57 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Perseverando

What do you mean it won’t survive? Get serious. We’ll survive just like Argentina survived the Perons, and most idiots who voted for Obamessiah will continue to blame the bankers and Republicans for their misery. The frog is being cooked slowly.


54 posted on 12/04/2012 1:26:03 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Lakeshark

My entire point was that it isn’t comparable. There is no credible way to say the Republic is in worse shape today than during the Civil War.

We’ve survived worse.

SnakeDoc


55 posted on 12/04/2012 1:30:01 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (Texas survived one Obama term, and we'll survive another. The rest of you are screwed.)
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To: SnakeDoctor
The premise of my retort was simple: America is worse now because we have degenerated as a culture. Being fooled by a politician once can happen. A nation who voted for Bambi a second time with all the evidence pointing to him being a Marxist destroyer is far worse.

Without a cultural change, it's done (not saying it's impossible, but it is FAR worse than anything prior)

LS

56 posted on 12/04/2012 1:35:34 PM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

We are not worse off now than when we were killing each other with bayonets. Or when people were literally starving in the streets during the Depression. Or even than during the horrible upheaval of counterculture during the Vietnam War.

We’ve survived worse. Then again ... conservatives had a backbone back then.

I don’t disagree that a cultural change is needed. We’ve had them before, we can have one again. We had one in the 60s. We had one again in the 80s. We had one to get from there to here. Culture is malleable. Change it.

Four years of Carter woke people up and brought on the prospersous 80s, 90s and early 00s. Eight years of Obama could very well do the same.

We’ve survived worse. Repeatedly.

SnakeDoc


57 posted on 12/04/2012 1:43:51 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (Texas survived one Obama term, and we'll survive another. The rest of you are screwed.)
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To: SnakeDoctor

War is Hell, but people at least were willing to die for their convictions and had character on both sides of the Civil War. The depression was bad, but people banded together, and they starved far less than you are suggesting. The Sixties were only the beginning of the downgrade we now face. We haven’t faced worse repeatedly, we’ve never had a cultural decline such as this one. If you can read this, digest its implications and not say we are in worse trouble than ever, you’re a better man than I am. Btw, I admire your optimism, just don’t share it right now (and I’m an inherently VERY optimistic person): http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/03/polls-nation-that-re-elected-obama-wants-more-spending-cuts-than-tax-hikes-still-hates-obamacare/


58 posted on 12/04/2012 1:59:39 PM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

that article you link to is, IMHO, proof the bankers ran the elections and count the votes.

Fact is...IMHO this election was goung to be 60/40 R/D or 55/45R/D......and was stolen by the bankers....

We the People no longer own the electoral process.

Even Obama looked suprised...and certainly Mitt was.


59 posted on 12/04/2012 2:02:52 PM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: boxlunch

Great post. A country that does not include God is destined to fail.


60 posted on 12/04/2012 2:03:39 PM PST by Faith
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