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Fox News Puts Karl Rove on the Bench
New York Magazine ^ | 12/4/2012 | Gabriel Sherman

Posted on 12/04/2012 3:41:00 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: justiceseeker93; Impy; stephenjohnbanker
RE :”Bush's approval rating was undermined by the economic “crisis” at the end of his term, largely created by Democrat policy (mandated subprime mortgage lending by large banks, for one) and Democrat “solutions” (in particular, Wall Street bank bailouts by the federal government) pushed on him by his Democrat appointees, Hank Paulson and Ben Bernanke. You could say that those two worked from within Bush's administration to stab Bush in the back and grease the skids for Obama’s winning the 2008 election, though McCain's pathetic campaign was a factor as well. “

Oh brother, so we needed another R POTUS again so we could repeat all these great sounding excuses again?
Hey, then when they totally F up again and we can just all call it ‘Democratic policies’ and that makes it all better? Look at all the excuses we could have been making for Romney in a few years.
No wonder O got two terms.

Stab in back???? GWB didnt sound like he had a gun pointed at his head when he made this speech:

GWB 2002 Speech :”More and more people own their homes in America today. Yet we have a problem here in America because fewer than half the Hispanics and African Americans own their own homes. That’s a home ownership gap; a gap that we got to work together to close. And by the end of this decade we’ll increase the number of minority homeowners (future Obama voters ) by 5.5 million families. “
“One of the major obstacles to minority home-ownership is financing. Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac (who I will bail out in 2008) have committed to provide more money for lenders, they committed to meet the shortage of capital available for minority home-buyers. Freddie Mac just began 25 initiatives around the country to dismantle barriers (like income requirements) and create better opportunities for home-ownership. One of the programs is designed to help families with bad credit histories to qualify for home ownership loans (by faking their income) . You don’t have to have a lousy home for first time home-buyers. You put your mind to it the first time low income home buyer can have just as nice a house as anyone else (till those adjustable rates go up, then they can lose it to the bank) .

President Bush Mortgage Speech 2002(Helping those w bad credit buy houses)

About late 2006 I woke up and stopped repeating the lame excuses for GWB,

61 posted on 12/05/2012 4:46:59 AM PST by sickoflibs (Has Bohner caved yet? And called it historic again?)
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To: Impy; justiceseeker93; stephenjohnbanker; tennmountainman; Gilbo_3
BAD NEWS-REALITY_FLASH :
If a Republican POTUS champions bad policies then they are REPUBLICAN policies not DEM policies.
If the economy tanks in 2016 would you buy it if Dems claimed it was Obama's REPUBLICAN policies that did it? Of course not, It sounds STUPID

Bush home Ownership links:

Bush pushes minority homeownership (FR post | June 15, 2002 | By KATHY A. GAMBRELL)

Bush seeks to increase minority homeownership (FR post USA Today ^ | 1-20-04 | Thomas Fogarty )

President Bush Mortgage Speech 2002(Helping those w bad credit buy houses)

Speaker Hastert Touts Law Closing the Homeownership Gap for Minorities (FR Post Wednesday, October 01, 2003 )

Fact Sheet: Expanding Homeownership Opportunities for All Americans (December 16, 2003 American Dream Downpayment Act of 2003)

. Compassionate conservatism works great till the bubble pops and all those loans go bad, then the same minorities lose their houses and they all run to Obama.

62 posted on 12/05/2012 5:01:13 AM PST by sickoflibs (Has Bohner caved yet? And called it historic again?)
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I disavow and repudiate Bush. Republican leaders should have done the same as soon as Obama took office.

Of course then they couldn’t have nominated Romney.


63 posted on 12/05/2012 5:26:46 AM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy
RE :’Of course then they couldn’t have nominated Romney.”

Yep, all the problems Bush left office with were all Dem policies because he was stabbed in the back by his appointees. So elect McCain and Romney because???

Was he tied up and drugged for 8 years, if so then how did he “keep us safe” ?

How do Republicans repeat this crap?

64 posted on 12/05/2012 5:34:08 AM PST by sickoflibs (Has Bohner caved yet? And called it historic again?)
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To: sickoflibs

He was stabbed in the front, by himself.


65 posted on 12/05/2012 5:38:24 AM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: justiceseeker93

Exactly, and we have those here on FR who refuse to see the truth.


66 posted on 12/05/2012 5:46:03 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: cicero2k
In 2-3 years Fox should hire the architect of Obama’s campaign.

If they were honest about how they got Obama re-elected, they'd be arrested.

67 posted on 12/05/2012 5:49:48 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Liz; All
Morris should have said: "WE CAN'T POLL VOTER FRAUD."

Exactly! But discussion of voter fraud (or more precisely, election fraud and cheating in its various forms, a "talent" improved upon by the 'rats over the years) is the current taboo subject among the political class. Until it is brought out into the open and approaches are implemented to mitigate its effects, the GOP will can't win any national elections, no matter how popular their candidates or policies happen to be. So the subject that should be getting the top priority in the wake of this election is on the back burner.

68 posted on 12/05/2012 8:05:55 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93; All
We do need to demand that voter fraud be tracked down & fully prosecuted, criminally. But we also need to understand, why we cannot allow Karl Rove & others who led Bush down the "primrose path," to continue to confuse the Republican leadership, if we still intend to try to make the Republican Party into a Conservative party.

Rove' strength is rote--he knows how various segments of the public line up, ideologically, and in terms of priorities. He either does not understand, or lacks the moral mettle to pursue, how one must go about changing those ideologies and/or priorities.

Human interaction is a dynamic field. Static analysis will always fail against dynamic analysis; pursuing past preferences is only adequate in a population where everyone shares the same value system. The Left has destroyed any common American value system, with the calculated pursuit of what they call "Diversity."

In the situation, today, we absolutely must get away from sloganized campaigning by 30 second sound bites; by hurling ex cathedra statements at the foe, who like the Biblical Serpent in Genesis is whispering appeals to everything base & vile, in the ears of every definable group. We have to go out and actually persuade again.

This is not hopeless. We have the issues, if we will only address them more intelligently. (See Whither American Conservatism.) We need to understand the real Conservative advantage. We seek to preserve what has actually worked--that is a vast advantage over the neurotic cloud-borne wishlists of the Left.

William Flax

69 posted on 12/05/2012 9:02:39 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Impy
Morris’ credibility is gone, he will never get it back.

Can't blame him for the unprecedented amount of election fraud which was a major factor causing his inaccurate prediction.

Also, don't count Morris out. Remember that he bounced back from the infamous toe sucking incident to revive his career.

70 posted on 12/05/2012 9:52:02 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: left that other site
The institutions that were founded to educate, inform, and entertain us have become the Propaganda Arm of the left...in other words, the “Ministry of Truth”.

Well said. What's happening before are eyes today definitely has parallels to what George Orwell warned us about. I'm wondering whether Orwell is banned now in high schools and colleges.

71 posted on 12/05/2012 9:59:51 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Liz

” Rove is also on the carpet w/ donors to his “American Crossroads” PAC——wanting to know what happened to the $300 million he collected.”

I wonder how much money Rove put in his OWN pocket?


72 posted on 12/05/2012 10:53:42 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Would be interesting to see Rove’s fund-raising letters.

To raise that much money-—Rove had to be telling donors the money was going into costly media buys-—maybe negative Obama ads?


73 posted on 12/05/2012 2:09:47 PM PST by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars," Dom Perignon)
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